Kamberi & McLaren

[Heckys Wheel]

Bossed by Genseric Kusunga and Darren O’Dea today.

By far the worst two defenders in the league. Strolled it today, winning headers while Kamberi watched them jump and McLaren tried to get close to them.

Don’t even get me started on the midfield making Paul McGowan look like a football player.

Embarrassing.

[calumhibee1]

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Bossed by Genseric Kusunga and Darren O’Dea today.

By far the worst two defenders in the league. Strolled it today, winning headers while Kamberi watched them jump and McLaren tried to get close to them.

Don’t even get me started on the midfield making Paul McGowan look like a football player.

Embarrassing.

Both them were pish, both individually and as a partnership.

[YanYansen]

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Don’t even get me started on the midfield making Paul McGowan look like a football player.

That was particularly painful, aye.

[houstonhibbee]

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Both them were pish, both individually and as a partnership.

What’s your answer then instead of posting negative comments

[Heckys Wheel]

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What’s your answer then instead of posting negative comments

Bin McLaren. 2 strikers required in January.

If Kamberi doesn’t start improving he can get binned anaw.

Bin Shaw. If Gullan is ahead of Allen and Shaw, get rid of them both.

Give Agyepong another medical. If it raises any question marks, send him back to Manchester.

[calumhibee1]

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What’s your answer then instead of posting negative comments

I’m not the manager. Lennons job to come up with the answers, not mine.

[B.H.F.C]

Kamberi is a good player but he has been dreadful lately.

Not having another recognised first team striker on the books is a shocker.

[MWHIBBIES]

Weren't bossed at all, caused all kinds of problems when they got service and when JM went off we looked awful.

Only person who got bossed was Porteous by Miller.

[PPZPOL]

I think there is an element of them thinking they done us a favour by returning his season. We gave them the platform last season and they delivered but it then put us into a position of (rightly) pursuing them hard to get them back in. There were rumours of Sunderland interest in Kamberi and McClaren ended up at the WC, and despite not playing, perhaps thought a few teams could be sniffing about.
I’d hope they don’t think they are above Hibs because a) no player should think that b) the performances are not reflective of this. They are not the only ones btw, but this thread is specifically about them.

[Hibee Mac]

If I'm honest, I think the fantastic partnership from last season wasn't a 2, it was a 3. Kamberi, MacLaren and Scott Allan.

Without Allan they are a shadow of what they were.

[Bobby's Cinema]

The hold up play from both has been frustrating to watch all season.

I'd have had Kamberi off before the end today did he manage to link up once?

Hopefully now that we have a run of games things will improve but they have a lot to work on to get back to where we know they can be.

[LaMotta]

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If I'm honest, I think the fantastic partnership from last season wasn't a 2, it was a 3. Kamberi, MacLaren and Scott Allan.

Without Allan they are a shadow of what they were.

[Frazerbob]

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Weren't bossed at all, caused all kinds of problems when they got service and when JM went off we looked awful.

Only person who got bossed was Porteous by Miller.

Agree re the front 2, we need to persevere with them. They’ve hardly played together this season. Last season showed how good the can and will be. Porto however was MOTM by a country mile today.

[calumhibee1]

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If I'm honest, I think the fantastic partnership from last season wasn't a 2, it was a 3. Kamberi, MacLaren and Scott Allan.

Without Allan they are a shadow of what they were.

Yup. Allan helped them and the team immensely.

[PPZPOL]

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If I'm honest, I think the fantastic partnership from last season wasn't a 2, it was a 3. Kamberi, MacLaren and Scott Allan.

Without Allan they are a shadow of what they were.

100% agree and that was the line I missed out my post before you.

Allan was instrumental in the success of FK and JM last season. Even more galling that we got the 2 of them back in and couldn’t get Allan over the line.

[anewlove]

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If I'm honest, I think the fantastic partnership from last season wasn't a 2, it was a 3. Kamberi, MacLaren and Scott Allan.

Without Allan they are a shadow of what they were.

Spot on.

[we are hibs]

It took until Dundee equalised for kamberi to start jumping for headers. It's like Grant Holt all over again

[Hiber-nation]

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Weren't bossed at all, caused all kinds of problems when they got service and when JM went off we looked awful.

Only person who got bossed was Porteous by Miller.

Are you actually serious? McLaren was shocking and the centre half who scored the og had Kamberi in his pocket all day. And Miller certainly didn't boss Porteous, the mistake for the first goal was by Hanlon.

[SRHibs]

If Kamberi needs an operation then he just needs to get it over and done with. Would rather do without him for a while and get the player we had last season back, than continue like this.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Are you actually serious? McLaren was shocking and the centre half who scored the og had Kamberi in his pocket all day. And Miller certainly didn't boss Porteous, the mistake for the first goal was by Hanlon.

I'm deadly seriously. Maclaren scored (offside Horgan before), had 2 off the line, shot just wide on his left and just offside himself when he went 1v1 2nd half.

Kamberi fought hard, had some lovely touches, would probably have scored if not for the own goal. We literally did not have a shot when Maclaren went off.

Porteous was bossed all day, lost Miller for early chance, was losing headers to him, 2nd to everything.

[J-C]

I sometimes wonder if certain players play out their skin to gain a contract and once they have it start to look lacklustre. Kamberi looks a shadow of the brash overly confident player that came here in January, something is not right. Jamie just looks an average player now, a good poacher but not really anything else in his game, easily pushed off the ball and for big lad Kamberi gets bosses all too easily. Maybe a reason we're looking at this lad Eaves.

[BegbieHSC]

It’s the service, not the strikers that must improve.

I didnt think either of them were that bad tbh.

Scott Allan SOS

[Hibees1973]

I feel Kamberi is already looking for his next move. There was a lot of interest in him during the summer and I was surprised he came back to Hibs.

The talk from him the last few days about getting into the Swiss national team is bull. Needs to get back to basics, being physical and a nuisance to defenders. Technically he has ability but it seems his attitude is not as it should be. Hope Lennon sorts him out.

MacLaren......is a bit of an enigma to me and is way short of the form he was in at the end of last season. He does not convince me and if he does not step up quickly Hibs could do a lot better than him.

The next 3-4 games are huge for Hibs.

It may be an over-reaction, especially after throwing away a 2 goal lead against a poor Dundee side but we are at a crossroads just now with loads of players not looking up to scratch.

Lennon must take responsibility for the new signings and most of them being signed late in the transfer window (most of them have been poor so far, not fit and/or injured). Lennon’s future at Hibs is in his own hands as he deserves time to get us out of this rut but, he needs to step up as well by getting more out of the players he has or ship them out and get better one’s in.

[Sir David Gray]

I thought Kamberi was hopeless today. If he's carrying an injury and needs an operation at some point to fix it then we should just bite the bullet just now and get him in for it now.

He's no good to us if he continues playing like he did today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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It’s the service, not the strikers that must improve.

I didnt think either of them were that bad tbh.

Scott Allan SOS

the service is absolutely dreadful

[Bobby's Cinema]

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the service is absolutely dreadful

Disagree. Decent ball was played on countless occasions into kamberi's head, chest, feet he couldn't retain it and link up.

Must expect more than that today, and he is better than that.

[EH54]

I don't think maclaren, kamberi or anyone else is any worse than they were last season. We are missing a midfield. Right now we don't have one. Dundee are bottom of the league and we're better in the middle of the park than us. That speaks for itself. We have a bottom 6 midfield. Strikers and defence have no chance.

[B.H.F.C]

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the service is absolutely dreadful

The service thing isn’t as big an issue as is being made out IMO. Only Rangers and Celtic have scored more than us so we clearly create plenty chances.

We can’t keep waiting for it to happen for them. MacLaren should have scored in the first half. Kamberi never held the ball in well enough to let the midfield join in with them.

It could be better but I think the strikers are a bigger problem than the service at the moment.

[wookie70]

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Disagree. Decent ball was played on countless occasions into kamberi's head, chest, feet he couldn't retain it and link up.

Must expect more than that today, and he is better than that.

Kamberi had plenty good ball today but most of the time his touch was poor. When the service wasn't as good he was easily out muscled by his marker. I think McLaren's first touch was in the 19th minute where he flicked a ball on to a Dundee player. I was still surprised McLaren was subbed because he still looked like scoring and at least his runs move defences around. Kamberi was woeful today and has been poor for months. As said earlier in the thread, if he needs an op then get it done now because he is a man short at the moment. Give Lewis Allen a try for a few weeks. He has looked livelier than Flo has when given the chance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Disagree. Decent ball was played on countless occasions into kamberi's head, chest, feet he couldn't retain it and link up.

Must expect more than that today, and he is better than that.

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The service thing isn’t as big an issue as is being made out IMO. Only Rangers and Celtic have scored more than us so we clearly create plenty chances.

We can’t keep waiting for it to happen for them. MacLaren should have scored in the first half. Kamberi never held the ball in well enough to let the midfield join in with them.

It could be better but I think the strikers are a bigger problem than the service at the moment.

fair points Horgan was the only midfielder i would give pass marks to(even if he did have a couple of passes to no one) i thought it strange Marv coming on instead of Slivka, we're at home and we bring on the enforcer or did NL realise we had already surrendered the midfield so lets try stop them winning, and our Oz heroes should have taken the slow plane back....all of them :)