Celtc Fans' Sectarian Singing

[Keith_M]

...was discussed at the Celtc AGM.

HERE


(They're the ones that used to term Sectarian, by the way)


For those that don't want to click the Daily Record link...


"Chairman Bankier hit out at fans who he said take Celtic "into the gutter" by continuing to sing sectarian songs.

One shareholder was praised by Lawwell for his "bravery" in raising the controversial subject from the floor. An increase in sectarian singing at games was the claim, specifically the Beautiful Sunday chant with IRA lyrics and a chant directed at Hearts manager Craig Levein calling him an "orange b*****d".

The man said the majority of the sectarian singing comes from the Green Brigade section of Parkhead. He added: “Not putting all blame on the Green Brigade but drums and megaphones bring the beat for these unsavoury songs.

“It's getting worse now and I want the board to open a dialogue.”

Bankier responded by saying Celtic have no time for what is “‘very damaging and that sort of singing takes club to the gutter”. He urged fans to show disapproval during games and says the guilty parties will soon see they are in a small minority.

Lawwell accepted the problem had got worse in recent times. He added: "It is very unfortunate that a small minority is dragging us down."

[gillythehibby]

What's this got to do with Hibernian FC?

[cleanyman]

I thought it was Rangers who only sang such things?

[silverhibee]

The green brigade will be painting a banner in disapproval for the next game, for f***ing once I hope they get the spelling right.

It's okay saying they dislike this stuff but until they do something about it then it will just continue and get worse, they won't be outdone by the blue bigots.

I see Celtc are considering not taking any tickets for the old firm game at Ibrox at Xmas time for fear of the safety of there fans.

[The 90+2]

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What's this got to do with Hibernian FC?

I would guess nothing but good to see they are acknowledging their **** support.

[The 90+2]

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The green brigade will be painting a banner in disapproval for the next game, for f***ing once I hope they get the spelling right.

It's okay saying they dislike this stuff but until they do something about it then it will just continue and get worse, they won't be outdone by the blue bigots.

I see Celtc are considering not taking any tickets for the old firm game at Ibrox at Xmas time for fear of the safety of there fans.

I wouldn’t want to go and sit in that corner pumping huns in a Celtic end. Think of the **** launched at us, spit and even the likes of flares and x by 1000.

[Keith_M]

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What's this got to do with Hibernian FC?

When did it become a rule of this site to never discuss other clubs?

[hibbysam]

Good, sure some on here will still defend it however. Just because the abuse from rangers fans is directed at us, and Celtic fans abuse is directed in the other direction, doesn’t mean one is worse than the other.

One good thing from Stokes leaving was the dropping of the ‘stokes’ da’ song at ER.

Can’t see Celtic doing something properly about it however, they say minority but they play the beautiful Sunday over their tannoy system and the IRA lyrics are clearly audible, telling me it’s more than a minority.

[brianmc]

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When did it become a rule of this site to never discuss other clubs?

Might just be the fact it's posted in the Hibs chat section??

[Carheenlea]

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Good, sure some on here will still defend it however. Just because the abuse from rangers fans is directed at us, and Celtic fans abuse is directed in the other direction, doesn’t mean one is worse than the other.

One good thing from Stokes leaving was the dropping of the ‘stokes’ da’ song at ER.

Can’t see Celtic doing something properly about it however, they say minority but they play the beautiful Sunday over their tannoy system and the IRA lyrics are clearly audible, telling me it’s more than a minority.

The Stokes song was a daft, light hearted effort sung by never more than a handful of Hibs fans at the occasional away game. I`ve never heard it at ER, certainly not from my seat in the West Upper. The song has had more mentions on Hibs.net threads than actual airings at games.

[Iggy Pope]

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Good, sure some on here will still defend it however. Just because the abuse from rangers fans is directed at us, and Celtic fans abuse is directed in the other direction, doesn’t mean one is worse than the other.

One good thing from Stokes leaving was the dropping of the ‘stokes’ da’ song at ER.

Can’t see Celtic doing something properly about it however, they say minority but they play the beautiful Sunday over their tannoy system and the IRA lyrics are clearly audible, telling me it’s more than a minority.

Terrorism!

[nonshinyfinish]

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Might just be the fact it's posted in the Hibs chat section??

In the what?

It's on the main forum, which is described as "The messageboard for all Hibs fans to chat about Hibs and football in general."

[hibbysam]

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The Stokes song was a daft, light hearted effort sung by never more than a handful of Hibs fans at the occasional away game. I`ve never heard it at ER, certainly not from my seat in the West Upper. The song has had more mentions on Hibs.net threads than actual airings at games.

I agree, I’m not saying it was loud or what have you, but at the likes of tynie and Ibrox you tend to get even more bams singing it on the wind up. Just glad it was dumped before it caught on more.

[hibbysam]

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Terrorism!

Not sure what your point is, however the club can’t have a go at the singing of said song, blame the green brigade, yet play it over the tannoy system at parkhead if they are really intent on stopping it.

[tamig]

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What's this got to do with Hibernian FC?

Its a football forum. Don’t open the thread if you don’t like it. The thread title kind of gives a clue as to the subject matter.

[The Modfather]

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Good, sure some on here will still defend it however. Just because the abuse from rangers fans is directed at us, and Celtic fans abuse is directed in the other direction, doesn’t mean one is worse than the other.

One good thing from Stokes leaving was the dropping of the ‘stokes’ da’ song at ER.

Can’t see Celtic doing something properly about it however, they say minority but they play the beautiful Sunday over their tannoy system and the IRA lyrics are clearly audible, telling me it’s more than a minority.

Sadly the Stokes song, while not widespread, still gets sung. Also heard, presumably the same knuckledraggers, singing it about Horgans dad at Tynecastle.

[Iggy Pope]

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Not sure what your point is, however the club can’t have a go at the singing of said song, blame the green brigade, yet play it over the tannoy system at parkhead if they are really intent on stopping it.

It’s a pop song. That’s my point.
The point of the thread? Nae idea.

[Pete]

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What's this got to do with Hibernian FC?

Hibs and Celtic are brothers in green.

[Haymaker]

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Hibs and Celtic are brothers in green.

*gets popcorn out*

[calumhibee1]

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Good, sure some on here will still defend it however. Just because the abuse from rangers fans is directed at us, and Celtic fans abuse is directed in the other direction, doesn’t mean one is worse than the other.

One good thing from Stokes leaving was the dropping of the ‘stokes’ da’ song at ER.

Can’t see Celtic doing something properly about it however, they say minority but they play the beautiful Sunday over their tannoy system and the IRA lyrics are clearly audible, telling me it’s more than a minority.

A bit like when Hearts beat us last season and the first song on after the game was Sweet Caroline so they could all shout **** the pope.. which of course, thousands of them duly obliged.

[CentreLine]

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A bit like when Hearts beat us last season and the first song on after the game was Sweet Caroline so they could all shout **** the pope.. which of course, thousands of them duly obliged.

Didn’t take long for the whataboutery to appear. 😏

[The 90+2]

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Hibs and Celtic are brothers in green.

Sisters also Pete.

[HibeeHibernian4]

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Didn’t take long for the whataboutery to appear. 😏

Well you can call it whatabouttery, but it's a valid point. While singing about the Provisional IRA is ****my and needless, it's not sectarian. Singing "**** the Pope" is. So Hearts aided and abetted sectarianism on that occasion, and Celtic didn't.

However Celtic's insistence on calling Rangers/Hearts managers "sad orange *******s" is their achilles heel on the sectarianism front. If they cut that out then their songbook would be free of sectarian singing, but still riddled with crass chants about Irish republicanism.

[gillythehibby]

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When did it become a rule of this site to never discuss other clubs?

No Rule mate just think we've got better Hibs things to talk about. Personally I couldny give a damn what songs Celtic fans sing.

[hibbysam]

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It’s a pop song. That’s my point.
The point of the thread? Nae idea.

Of course it is. But a pop song they’ve clearly just stated they don’t want sung, yet play it across their tannoy to encourage it... not exactly difficult to understand.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Of course it is. But a pop song they’ve clearly just stated they don’t want sung, yet play it across their tannoy to encourage it... not exactly difficult to understand.

Wait until they find out it was written by Rod McQueen.....

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[Pretty Boy]

Actions will speak louder than words. It's notable the issue was raised by a supporter; it's often the case that fans are most in denial that there is a problem.

[The Modfather]

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Well you can call it whatabouttery, but it's a valid point. While singing about the Provisional IRA is ****my and needless, it's not sectarian. Singing "**** the Pope" is. So Hearts aided and abetted sectarianism on that occasion, and Celtic didn't.

However Celtic's insistence on calling Rangers/Hearts managers "sad orange *******s" is their achilles heel on the sectarianism front. If they cut that out then their songbook would be free of sectarian singing, but still riddled with crass chants about Irish republicanism.

Don’t want to turn this thread into a 10 page Groundhog Day thread. However, while on the face of it you might be right about singing about the IRA not being sectarian, surely in the context of Scotland and Scottish football it is intrinsically linked to sectarianism? In the same way when songs about F the Queen etc are sung they are rooted in sectarianism and not anti royalisim, yet without any context an outsider wouldn’t understand the sectarian context.

[Onceinawhile]

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Hibs and Celtic are brothers in green.

Bhrothers ihn ghreen.

[Sylar]

Celtc will do utterly hee-haw about it, because as much as they like to use the word "minority", everyone knows that to be a lie.

And the sectarian/Pro-IRA £ is worth far too much money to them. Celtc have built their empire on it, using that type of financing to get them into a position where they regularly now reap the rewards of Europe.

Much in the same way that Rangers did (and their new incarnation are continuing to do), in exploiting the sectarian/unionist image to bolster their coffers to try and achieve parity.

The pair of them are profiteering, lip-serving ****my *******s.