Next derby at Tynecastle to be played behind closed doors?

[G B Young]

That's an option I think which should be seriously considered. This fixture has descended into little more than a venom-filled battle, with football a secondary consideration. The pent-up emotions of both sets of fans and players (the Hearts players in particular I would say) make it, in my opinion, a deeply unpleasant experience and I find it hard to understand how anyone can say they actually 'enjoy' it. The level of pure hatred in the air is appalling and the behaviour of a lot of those in attendance is close to neanderthal. We try to claim the Edinburgh derby doesn't carry the bile that goes with an Old Firm game, but I sometimes wonder if we're kidding ourselves. As a parent, I wouldn't even have considered taking kids along last night.

Tynecastle itself is, IMHO, not a safe environment in which to hold such events. The small playing surface with stands far too close to the pitch puts players, coaches and officials in too dangerous a position when you have a crowd populated by a lot of folk who, through drink or just plain imbecility, can't be trusted to behave. It's not the first time Neil Lennon has been assaulted in this stadium and that alone should see the authorities seriously consider the safety surrounding high-octane fixtures at this venue. Playing the next Tynecastle derby behind closed doors might help to give everyone pause for thought.

More generally, Lennon is spot on when he says he shouldn't be expected to simply sit and take 90 minutes of filthy verbal abuse. Football is pretty much unique as a sport (bar, perhaps boxing and wrestling) in that fans appear to think that buying a ticket entitles them to hurl that sort of poison at referees or opposing managers and players - and in some cases actually attack them! It's the sort of stuff that would have you thrown out of most other sporting events or public performances and even arrested. No question, getting older sees you become less tolerant of such idiocy, but it also brings with it a perspective on how daft this all is.

Sorry if this comes across as a pompous rant, but having thoroughly enjoyed the early part of yesterday evening as kids around the neighbourhood scurried around guising and simply having fun, the behaviour on view at the derby soured my mood considerably.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Don't think that will happen but you could see the barrier up around the ground they used to have. Animals behave better.

[Cabbage East]

We're just getting hysterical now.

[hfc-1875]

I would say no chance of that happening, and would also say if it did happen, it wouldn’t only make the next derby after that even worse imo

[Chuck Rhoades]

Folk need to seriously calm down. Where you even at the match?

[Smartie]

I think we need to try policing the match properly or at a push, closing small sections of the ground in the flashpoint areas before we need to go for the crazy options.

[j'adore hibs]

no that shouldnt happen, folk just need to grow up and behave whilst supporting their team

[G B Young]

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I think we need to try policing the match properly or at a push, closing small sections of the ground in the flashpoint areas before we need to go for the crazy options.

Another option would be to end segregation and see if as many folk are so 'brave' when both sets of fans are sitting together. It might actually make some folk start to behave like normal members of society.

[silverhibee]

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That's an option I think which should be seriously considered. This fixture has descended into little more than a venom-filled battle, with football a secondary consideration. The pent-up emotions of both sets of fans and players (the Hearts players in particular I would say) make it, in my opinion, a deeply unpleasant experience and I find it hard to understand how anyone can say they actually 'enjoy' it. The level of pure hatred in the air is appalling and the behaviour of a lot of those in attendance is close to neanderthal. We try to claim the Edinburgh derby doesn't carry the bile that goes with an Old Firm game, but I sometimes wonder if we're kidding ourselves. As a parent, I wouldn't even have considered taking kids along last night.

Tynecastle itself is, IMHO, not a safe environment in which to hold such events. The small playing surface with stands far too close to the pitch puts players, coaches and officials in too dangerous a position when you have a crowd populated by a lot of folk who, through drink or just plain imbecility, can't be trusted to behave. It's not the first time Neil Lennon has been assaulted in this stadium and that alone should see the authorities seriously consider the safety surrounding high-octane fixtures at this venue. Playing the next Tynecastle derby behind closed doors might help to give everyone pause for thought.

More generally, Lennon is spot on when he says he shouldn't be expected to simply sit and take 90 minutes of filthy verbal abuse. Football is pretty much unique as a sport (bar, perhaps boxing and wrestling) in that fans appear to think that buying a ticket entitles them to hurl that sort of poison at referees or opposing managers and players - and in some cases actually attack them! It's the sort of stuff that would have you thrown out of most other sporting events or public performances and even arrested. No question, getting older sees you become less tolerant of such idiocy, but it also brings with it a perspective on how daft this all is.

Sorry if this comes across as a pompous rant, but having thoroughly enjoyed the early part of yesterday evening as kids around the neighbourhood scurried around guising and simply having fun, the behaviour on view at the derby soured my mood considerably.

Deary f***ing me.

[staunchhibby]

When we were at Bronby there was a wire fence which was a considerable height to discourage throwing of objects.Could this be the next move at grounds here.

[Laced1875]

Hysteria around this is unreal. Similar behaviour happens at most major derbies around the world. Not condoning the behaviour, just an unfortunate part of the game.

[Lendo]

Next derby at Tynecastle to be played overseas?

[Hermit Crab]

Next just not play it and call it draw. Behind closed doors, aye right.

[southfieldhibby]

Amazing this is an actual thought of a supporter.

[Ozyhibby]

Closed doors is just being silly. They probably should be stopped from selling the front row of seats around the ground though.


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[Wembley67]

😂 one of the most over the top posts I've ever read on here in 15 odd years!

[B.H.F.C]

What a ridiculous suggestion.

[superbam]

FFS folk need to calm down. Seems like an ongoing competition to be outraged at crowd behaviour among some people.

[Deansy]

A semi-decent, competent, un-biased referee would help reduce the poisonous atmosphere !

[green with envy]

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That's an option I think which should be seriously considered. This fixture has descended into little more than a venom-filled battle, with football a secondary consideration. The pent-up emotions of both sets of fans and players (the Hearts players in particular I would say) make it, in my opinion, a deeply unpleasant experience and I find it hard to understand how anyone can say they actually 'enjoy' it. The level of pure hatred in the air is appalling and the behaviour of a lot of those in attendance is close to neanderthal. We try to claim the Edinburgh derby doesn't carry the bile that goes with an Old Firm game, but I sometimes wonder if we're kidding ourselves. As a parent, I wouldn't even have considered taking kids along last night.

Tynecastle itself is, IMHO, not a safe environment in which to hold such events. The small playing surface with stands far too close to the pitch puts players, coaches and officials in too dangerous a position when you have a crowd populated by a lot of folk who, through drink or just plain imbecility, can't be trusted to behave. It's not the first time Neil Lennon has been assaulted in this stadium and that alone should see the authorities seriously consider the safety surrounding high-octane fixtures at this venue. Playing the next Tynecastle derby behind closed doors might help to give everyone pause for thought.

More generally, Lennon is spot on when he says he shouldn't be expected to simply sit and take 90 minutes of filthy verbal abuse. Football is pretty much unique as a sport (bar, perhaps boxing and wrestling) in that fans appear to think that buying a ticket entitles them to hurl that sort of poison at referees or opposing managers and players - and in some cases actually attack them! It's the sort of stuff that would have you thrown out of most other sporting events or public performances and even arrested. No question, getting older sees you become less tolerant of such idiocy, but it also brings with it a perspective on how daft this all is.

Sorry if this comes across as a pompous rant, but having thoroughly enjoyed the early part of yesterday evening as kids around the neighbourhood scurried around guising and simply having fun, the behaviour on view at the derby soured my mood considerably.

Just when you thought you thought you had seen the last of the stupid posts Re: last night's game.

[ballengeich]

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When we were at Bronby there was a wire fence which was a considerable height to discourage throwing of objects.Could this be the next move at grounds here.

I doubt it. The UK view, based on Hillsborough, is that fans should be able to spill on to the pitch in an emergency.

[Since90+2]

It's getting abit ridiculous now. The game won't be and shouldn't be player behind closed doors.

[where'stheslope]

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Next derby at Tynecastle to be played overseas?

They'll think their in Europe!! Its a Naw from me!!!!

[heretoday]

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Next derby at Tynecastle to be played overseas?

That's a cracker! Cue trouble in the airport bars and in the bars in Warsaw or Leipzig or whatever.

[lyonhibs]

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That's an option I think which should be seriously considered. This fixture has descended into little more than a venom-filled battle, with football a secondary consideration. The pent-up emotions of both sets of fans and players (the Hearts players in particular I would say) make it, in my opinion, a deeply unpleasant experience and I find it hard to understand how anyone can say they actually 'enjoy' it. The level of pure hatred in the air is appalling and the behaviour of a lot of those in attendance is close to neanderthal. We try to claim the Edinburgh derby doesn't carry the bile that goes with an Old Firm game, but I sometimes wonder if we're kidding ourselves. As a parent, I wouldn't even have considered taking kids along last night.

Tynecastle itself is, IMHO, not a safe environment in which to hold such events. The small playing surface with stands far too close to the pitch puts players, coaches and officials in too dangerous a position when you have a crowd populated by a lot of folk who, through drink or just plain imbecility, can't be trusted to behave. It's not the first time Neil Lennon has been assaulted in this stadium and that alone should see the authorities seriously consider the safety surrounding high-octane fixtures at this venue. Playing the next Tynecastle derby behind closed doors might help to give everyone pause for thought.

More generally, Lennon is spot on when he says he shouldn't be expected to simply sit and take 90 minutes of filthy verbal abuse. Football is pretty much unique as a sport (bar, perhaps boxing and wrestling) in that fans appear to think that buying a ticket entitles them to hurl that sort of poison at referees or opposing managers and players - and in some cases actually attack them! It's the sort of stuff that would have you thrown out of most other sporting events or public performances and even arrested. No question, getting older sees you become less tolerant of such idiocy, but it also brings with it a perspective on how daft this all is.

Sorry if this comes across as a pompous rant, but having thoroughly enjoyed the early part of yesterday evening as kids around the neighbourhood scurried around guising and simply having fun, the behaviour on view at the derby soured my mood considerably.

No no no no no.

Christ almighty.

[Bostonhibby]

I'd prefer the police to do some policing to be honest, and remember this is tiny castle we're talking about so the doors we want to shut probably haven't been fitted yet.

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[Albanian Hibs]

😂😂😂

[Heckys Wheel]

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That's an option I think which should be seriously considered. This fixture has descended into little more than a venom-filled battle, with football a secondary consideration. The pent-up emotions of both sets of fans and players (the Hearts players in particular I would say) make it, in my opinion, a deeply unpleasant experience and I find it hard to understand how anyone can say they actually 'enjoy' it. The level of pure hatred in the air is appalling and the behaviour of a lot of those in attendance is close to neanderthal. We try to claim the Edinburgh derby doesn't carry the bile that goes with an Old Firm game, but I sometimes wonder if we're kidding ourselves. As a parent, I wouldn't even have considered taking kids along last night.

Tynecastle itself is, IMHO, not a safe environment in which to hold such events. The small playing surface with stands far too close to the pitch puts players, coaches and officials in too dangerous a position when you have a crowd populated by a lot of folk who, through drink or just plain imbecility, can't be trusted to behave. It's not the first time Neil Lennon has been assaulted in this stadium and that alone should see the authorities seriously consider the safety surrounding high-octane fixtures at this venue. Playing the next Tynecastle derby behind closed doors might help to give everyone pause for thought.

More generally, Lennon is spot on when he says he shouldn't be expected to simply sit and take 90 minutes of filthy verbal abuse. Football is pretty much unique as a sport (bar, perhaps boxing and wrestling) in that fans appear to think that buying a ticket entitles them to hurl that sort of poison at referees or opposing managers and players - and in some cases actually attack them! It's the sort of stuff that would have you thrown out of most other sporting events or public performances and even arrested. No question, getting older sees you become less tolerant of such idiocy, but it also brings with it a perspective on how daft this all is.

Sorry if this comes across as a pompous rant, but having thoroughly enjoyed the early part of yesterday evening as kids around the neighbourhood scurried around guising and simply having fun, the behaviour on view at the derby soured my mood considerably.

Absolute hysteria.

[BoomtownHibees]

From somebody no at the game I assume?

[GreenArmyyy!]

What might be a realistic option for the authorities is to stop hearts selling tickets from the front one or two rows to stop fans being so close to the player, I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen though.