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    Torpedo Moscow have cancelled the contract of a Russian born black player after protests from the clubs fans who and I quote said” Black may be in the clubs colours but we only want white players in our team” absolutely disgusting now that the World Cup is over is this the real Russia.? Hopefully he gets a chance at a club whose fans aren’t that petty and are all inclusive a bit like us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    Torpedo Moscow have cancelled the contract of a Russian born black player after protests from the clubs fans who and I quote said” Black may be in the clubs colours but we only want white players in our team” absolutely disgusting now that the World Cup is over is this the real Russia.? Hopefully he gets a chance at a club whose fans aren’t that petty and are all inclusive a bit like us.
    Its not just Russia this happens to be fair, Beitar Jerusalem are the same but with Arab players as they see themselves as a Jewish club and when they signed two Arab players a few seasons back their fans boycotted games and threatened the players families, Death threats, assaults etc.

    Don't think the players are there anymore, quite understandably after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee View Post
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    Its not just Russia this happens to be fair, Beitar Jerusalem are the same but with Arab players as they see themselves as a Jewish club and when they signed two Arab players a few seasons back their fans boycotted games and threatened the players families, Death threats, assaults etc.

    Don't think the players are there anymore, quite understandably after that
    There was a fantastic documentary about that (and it was distasteful in equal measure). The two Arab boys (who I think were from Chechnya) were incredible in their bravery and humility throughout their spell there, especially when the team and the team 'pin up' player openly criticised the move. Wish I could find the link. From memory the club had been bought over by a rich Russian and he was of the opinion if a player was good enough it didn't matter where they were from or what religion. Wish I could remember the channel it was on, maybe C4 ??

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    There was a fantastic documentary about that (and it was distasteful in equal measure). The two Arab boys (who I think were from Chechnya) were incredible in their bravery and humility throughout their spell there, especially when the team and the team 'pin up' player openly criticised the move. Wish I could find the link. From memory the club had been bought over by a rich Russian and he was of the opinion if a player was good enough it didn't matter where they were from or what religion. Wish I could remember the channel it was on, maybe C4 ??
    Forever Pure it was called. Might get it on Netflix perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Forever Pure it was called. Might get it on Netflix perhaps?
    Cheers Dave definitely worth a watch if only to highlight the sheer ignorance of certain people in the world

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    There was a fantastic documentary about that (and it was distasteful in equal measure). The two Arab boys (who I think were from Chechnya) were incredible in their bravery and humility throughout their spell there, especially when the team and the team 'pin up' player openly criticised the move. Wish I could find the link. From memory the club had been bought over by a rich Russian and he was of the opinion if a player was good enough it didn't matter where they were from or what religion. Wish I could remember the channel it was on, maybe C4 ??
    It was on bbc, from what I remember. It’s on YouTube now if you type in Beitar Jerusalem

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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    Torpedo Moscow have cancelled the contract of a Russian born black player after protests from the clubs fans who and I quote said” Black may be in the clubs colours but we only want white players in our team” absolutely disgusting now that the World Cup is over is this the real Russia.? Hopefully he gets a chance at a club whose fans aren’t that petty and are all inclusive a bit like us.

    FIFA should absolutely hammer them for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    Torpedo Moscow have cancelled the contract of a Russian born black player after protests from the clubs fans who and I quote said” Black may be in the clubs colours but we only want white players in our team” absolutely disgusting now that the World Cup is over is this the real Russia.? Hopefully he gets a chance at a club whose fans aren’t that petty and are all inclusive a bit like us.

    Russia is a complex place.

    The people can be amazingly friendly and hospitable but no denying there is deep seated bigotry there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee View Post
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    Its not just Russia this happens to be fair, Beitar Jerusalem are the same but with Arab players as they see themselves as a Jewish club and when they signed two Arab players a few seasons back their fans boycotted games and threatened the players families, Death threats, assaults etc.

    Don't think the players are there anymore, quite understandably after that
    They weren't even Arab players, I think that was why it was seen as worse. They were Chechen Muslims I think, so the Beitar fans didn't even have the arab/Israeli thing to hide behind.

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    Defender. 19 could possibly do a job

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    Not a thread hijack, but I wonder if this news is being posted on Follow Follow and what the comments would be like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee View Post
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    Its not just Russia this happens to be fair, Beitar Jerusalem are the same but with Arab players as they see themselves as a Jewish club and when they signed two Arab players a few seasons back their fans boycotted games and threatened the players families, Death threats, assaults etc.

    Don't think the players are there anymore, quite understandably after that
    Was the same with Rangers for a long time, closer to home

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    Russia is a complex place.

    The people can be amazingly friendly and hospitable but no denying there is deep seated bigotry there too.
    That comment could apply to the USA too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pontius pilate View Post
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    Torpedo Moscow have cancelled the contract of a Russian born black player after protests from the clubs fans who and I quote said” Black may be in the clubs colours but we only want white players in our team” absolutely disgusting now that the World Cup is over is this the real Russia.? Hopefully he gets a chance at a club whose fans aren’t that petty and are all inclusive a bit like us.
    They sound like Dunfermline Athletic. (although it's all in the past ,they say)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chic Murray View Post
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    They sound like Dunfermline Athletic. (although it's all in the past ,they say)


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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Russia is a complex place.

    The people can be amazingly friendly and hospitable but no denying there is deep seated bigotry there too.
    And Glasgow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    Black in the strips.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...s_allegations/

    D'Mello himself used to suffer lots of racism during his long service to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimboHibs View Post
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    And Glasgow.
    Glaswegians are not friendly, they are just nosy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomsk View Post
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    FIFA should absolutely hammer them for that.
    Think it would be up to the Russian FA in the first instance, then UEFA.

    If as I expect nowt happens, so much for UEFA's "Respect" agenda. There have been numerous cases of black players being racially abused in internationals and European games not just in Russia but elsewhere in Eastern Europe, without action by local FAs or UEFA. If UEFA were serious they'd give warnings, followed by exclusions from European competition if things didn't improve.

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    Just reading an article on BBC that Beitar have a new owner who is challenging the racist element head on.

    Not signed an Arab player yet but it might not be far off.

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    Therein lies the reason nobody visits Russia. Redneck Central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Forever Pure it was called. Might get it on Netflix perhaps?
    There is a good copy of this on Vimeo for those without Netflix. Not sure of the legality of it so won't post a link but if you search the documentary title on Vimeo you can find it there.


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    Therein lies the reason nobody visits Russia. Redneck Central.

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    I visited Russia.

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    I visited Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EI255 View Post
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    Therein lies the reason nobody visits Russia. Redneck Central.

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    ОК, thank you from all russian Hibs supporters... Why people so trust the media? Do you think all people from Russia are like this idiots from Torpedo Moscow? Torpedo are most racist club in country. Their fans are bunch of neanderthals. I live in Kazan (multinational city). I've never encountered racism here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarneyHibby View Post
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    ОК, thank you from all russian Hibs supporters... Why people so trust the media? Do you think all people from Russia are like this idiots from Torpedo Moscow? Torpedo are most racist club in country. Their fans are bunch of neanderthals.
    Indeed… would we be happy being judged based on something The Rangers had done?

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    Not all russians are racists. Not all of us loves P*tin & vodka

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    Quote Originally Posted by EI255 View Post
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    Therein lies the reason nobody visits Russia. Redneck Central.

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    What a ridiculous comment, I’m guessing made by someone who’s never been there. Are all Scots like the 4000 ****bags in the away end tonight?

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