Hampden redevelopment

[BoomtownHibees]

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It's crazy to even be thinking of redevelopment of Hampden.
Murrayfield home of both games would be a fantastic move and dare I say sensible.
I think it is well documented that a large proportion of support for scotland football comes from East coast

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Murrayfield gives the same “miles away from the pitch” issue as Hampden when its a football pitch

I would love for Scotland games to be played in Edinburgh but if Hampden is re-developed to be more fan-friendly then that would be the best option imo

[Billy Whizz]

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Murrayfield gives the same “miles away from the pitch” issue as Hampden when its a football pitch

I would love for Scotland games to be played in Edinburgh but if Hampden is re-developed to be more fan-friendly then that would be the best option imo

Think they will be relying on qualifying for a Euro’s or World Cup, to pay for it. N. Ireland got more than €10million for qualifying for Euro 2016

[MagicSwirlingShip]

The SFA should follow the lead of Juventus. Their old ground the Stadio delle Alpi was widely derided by their fans, due to the stands being so far from the pitch due to a pointless running track.

They buzzdozed the full stadium in 2009 and started again, replacing the 69,000 capacity Delle Alpi with the compact, modern and imposing 41,000 seater Juventus Stadium.

Juventus have an imperious record at the new stadium, losing only 3 in their first 100 matches.

Lessons to be learned SFA

[ancient hibee]

Where are the SFA going to get the money from?

[Keith_M]

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Where are the SFA going to get the money from?

How much UK Government money was gifted for the re-building of Wembley, and for the building of the Olympic Stadium?

Maybe if Westminster gave even the 200m+ they donated to Wembley, we could end up with something half-decent at Hampden.

[Billy Whizz]

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Where are the SFA going to get the money from?

Apart from qualification, a bit of land around Hampden to develop, if they were able to pull in the ends. Although not sure who’d get planning permission to build on it

[Keith_M]

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Apart from qualification, a bit of land around Hampden to develop, if they were able to pull in the ends. Although not sure who’d get planning permission to build on it

That's not a bad idea Billy.

I'm sure they'd allowed development for housing, at least on the east side.

[superfurryhibby]

Maybe the money earmarked for any Hampden upgrade would be better spent by the SFA on grass roots facilities? With two large stadiums in Glasgow and one in Edinburgh, it seems insane to redevelop.

Tradition and history is a factor, but unless we see fundamental shifting of priorities by our inept governing body that’s about we’ll have left.

[Billy Whizz]

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That's not a bad idea Billy.

I'm sure they'd allowed development for housing, at least on the east side.

Gary O’Hagen’s working as a consultant at Hampden, got lots of experience in developing Easter Rd, so you never know

[ancient hibee]

English FA are going to sell Wembley and put the money into grass roots(literally) concentrating on improving pitches at local level all over England.There really is no need for a national authority to waste money in owning a stadium and we seem to have managed to get by without one for a long time.

[Billy Whizz]

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English FA are going to sell Wembley and put the money into grass roots(literally) concentrating on improving pitches at local level all over England.There really is no need for a national authority to waste money in owning a stadium and we seem to have managed to get by without one for a long time.

AH, you make a great point, we probably don’t. Only thing is we don’t own Hampden to sell it just now. Maybe agree a deal with QP to buy it, rehouse them somewhere close by, sell the site, and share the proceeds
Not sure the square footage of the site, but must be worth a small fortune, providing someone can build on it

[ancient hibee]

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AH, you make a great point, we probably don’t. Only thing is we don’t own Hampden to sell it just now. Maybe agree a deal with QP to buy it, rehouse them somewhere close by, sell the site, and share the proceeds
Not sure the square footage of the site, but must be worth a small fortune, providing someone can build on it

But is there ever going to be at the SFA with the bottle to sell Hampden for housing

[Juniper Greens]

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AH, you make a great point, we probably don’t. Only thing is we don’t own Hampden to sell it just now. Maybe agree a deal with QP to buy it, rehouse them somewhere close by, sell the site, and share the proceeds
Not sure the square footage of the site, but must be worth a small fortune, providing someone can build on it

I read somewhere that with the associated costs of clearing the land, and the relative low land value, there was unlikely to be profit in flattening and selling the site to a developer, I think this is why the SFA have QP over a barrel.

[Ozyhibby]

If we have £40m (the rough cost of redeveloping Hampden) would it not be better to spend that on artificial pitches, coach education etc to help develop future Scotland players?
We have a perfectly good stadium at Murrayfield.


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[Billy Whizz]

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If we have £40m (the rough cost of redeveloping Hampden) would it not be better to spend that on artificial pitches, coach education etc to help develop future Scotland players?
We have a perfectly good stadium at Murrayfield.


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SFA have just got a new Chief Excetive in, seems to be a person with modern thinking I’m told. Hopefully he considers all the best options, before coming to a decision

[blackpoolhibs]

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The SFA should follow the lead of Juventus. Their old ground the Stadio delle Alpi was widely derided by their fans, due to the stands being so far from the pitch due to a pointless running track.

They buzzdozed the full stadium in 2009 and started again, replacing the 69,000 capacity Delle Alpi with the compact, modern and imposing 41,000 seater Juventus Stadium.

Juventus have an imperious record at the new stadium, losing only 3 in their first 100 matches.

Lessons to be learned SFA

Only problem i can see is i cannae see Juve wanting to play there home games in Glasgow?

[hibbyfraelibby]

The best way to redevelop Hamdump is with a wrecking ball

[TelaStella]

Sure this will be shot down instantly but I’ll put it out here regardless, as a different opinion. Hampden, as poor a stadium it has become is the home of Scottish football, always has been and as far as I’m concerned always will be. Nothing to do with Glasgow being prioritised over Edinburgh, if Scotland had chosen to play their first internationals at say Logie Green or the Meadows, I don’t think the vast majority of us on here would have such an issue. England’s home is Wembley, N London. Is London the dominant point of English football? Certainly not. Difference is they have a stadium to be proud of where as ours is very much on her last legs. As far as I’m concerned all this chat about Murrayfield or building somewhere new in Lanarkshire or worse, Stirling can gtf.


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[Famous Fiver]

If they are rebuilding Hampden I could be interested in buying my 21.05.2016 seat. I have still got the ticket so know exactly which one it is.

In fact, I feel an e-mail enquiry coming on as we speak.

It will take pride of place in my living room and I can see myself in my dotage sitting on it telling the great grandchildren ' Did I ever tell you about ............'

[Billy Whizz]

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Sure this will be shot down instantly but I’ll put it out here regardless, as a different opinion. Hampden, as poor a stadium it has become is the home of Scottish football, always has been and as far as I’m concerned always will be. Nothing to do with Glasgow being prioritised over Edinburgh, if Scotland had chosen to play their first internationals at say Logie Green or the Meadows, I don’t think the vast majority of us on here would have such an issue. England’s home is Wembley, N London. Is London the dominant point of English football? Certainly not. Difference is they have a stadium to be proud of where as ours is very much on her last legs. As far as I’m concerned all this chat about Murrayfield or building somewhere new in Lanarkshire or worse, Stirling can gtf.


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Any idea what the TA’s view is on Hampden, stay or move?

[One Day Soon]

Hampden is a shocker of a national stadium.

There are so many things we need to change/fix if we are going to qualify for a major tournament again or see our club sides competing more seriously in numbers in Europe and no doubt we can't afford to do everything all at once. However that stadium intimidates no one, sucks the atmosphere and belief out of the crowd and acts as a pretty potent bit of non-verbal communication to opponents as to how low we have fallen as a serious football nation.

Bluntly, our stadium wasn't built as it is to be the right venue for international ties or even cup finals. It was built the way it is as a cost-led compromise option and it doesn't work. I'd bulldoze and rebuild in a heartbeat. If Queens Park don't like that we should start afresh elsewhere - halfway between Glasgow and Edinburgh on a clear site.

All IMHO.

[green&left]

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AH, you make a great point, we probably don’t. Only thing is we don’t own Hampden to sell it just now. Maybe agree a deal with QP to buy it, rehouse them somewhere close by, sell the site, and share the proceeds
Not sure the square footage of the site, but must be worth a small fortune, providing someone can build on it

There was an interesting thread on P&B from a QP fan. Apparently when they sold the debentures they are gurantee'd for X amount of years. They also got a Sport Scotland grant for recent redevelopment which states the facilities must be in use for X amount of years. Should they sell up and bring the bulldozers in the grant and debentures need paid back. Also the land isn't worth as much people think, there's stacks of "brownfield" land in and around Glasgow and there's alot of levelling to be done (IE you enter the Rangers end at ground level but got about 50 rows down to pitch-side).

Was an interesting read. If i can find the thread i'll post it up.