The minimum monthly contribution for HSL I believe is £7.73 or about £90 a year. I would imagine 18 odd away games is far in excess of that.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 03:57 PM #91
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06-06-2018 04:00 PM #92This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
HSL is voluntary and a great scheme.
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06-06-2018 04:03 PM #93This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But if donors are under the impression that it all goes to transfer fees and players' wages, they need to know.
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06-06-2018 04:04 PM #94
I wish I could afford it, but I am getting married this year and already have a lot to pay for. I have my season ticket so I’ve contributed at least. Honestly wish I could afford it.
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06-06-2018 04:14 PM #95
I never said I'm worried and i think you're missing my point slightly. What is likely to happen is every club will get a similar % of it's fan base donating and we'll all just end up at the same point as we were originally in terms of financial position, except that fans will have lost out on more money.
I accept the point it will improve Scottish Football but in an ideal world we wouldn't have to rely on the fans to such an extent.
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06-06-2018 04:14 PM #96
I know this probably comes up a lot so apologies. But the idea of fan ownership kinda terrifies me. (I'm happy to be proven wrong).
Hibs is my club and I guess I already feel I have ''ownership" of it as part of the hibs family. The main issue I guess is the "too many Chiefs" problem. I fear that if everyone plays owner this leads to instability in the club.
Again, genuinely not looking to have a moan. That's not what this is. I feel that surely I can't be the only one on the fence with this issue looking for assurances.
And finally, apologies again if this worry has been answered a million times!
GGTTH
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06-06-2018 04:15 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 04:16 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 04:16 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Everyday life is far more important, HSL is a way for those that both want to and can afford to, help channel funds solely to the football budget
When the time is right for you to contribute I am sure there will still be an opportunity for you to do so.
As others have said either contributing or not does not change the fact we are all Hibs supporters and there is no suggestion of their being a hierarchy of being a Hibs supporter determined through financial contributions.
Good luck with the wedding and importantly try and take the time to enjoy it.
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06-06-2018 04:20 PM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Supports the club by buying his season ticket, and most likely top up for cup games home and away
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06-06-2018 04:25 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 04:25 PM #102madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Also we can debate the pros and cons of fan ownership until the cows come home. However, what I don't understand is we always had fans owning shares (individually) but HSL is a collective so if anything we are able to have a collective voice rather than many individual ones. Also, if fan ownership worries you, what's your thoughts of Romanov, Abramovic, the guy that was at Livi, the guy that was at Dundee, Mike Ashley?
Without shares we have zero control or say on anything at the club. We should be thankful we have positive communication between the club's overseers and ourselves at the moment. Without shares that could easily change. As it stands do we know how our club will be placed when Tom Farmer is gone? No. It could be sold. Without a substantial share we won't have a say beyond pleading with the club from a weak position. We will never reach 100% ownership as far as I can see so we won't be fully fan owned, the idea is to get to a point where we have some representation at board level and can with some authority have a say on club matters. Regardless what comes after Farmer etc.
Donate to help us get more shares or don't, its all about what you can afford. Its always a personal choice.
Edit - forgot to mention that we have an added bonus of our money going to the squad rather than infrastructure.Last edited by madhatter; 06-06-2018 at 04:28 PM.
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06-06-2018 04:30 PM #103
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One thing you can be sure of is Lennon will not take the extra money for granted and will spend it wisely. Not sure the same could be said of Levein and the FoH donations.
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06-06-2018 04:49 PM #104This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 04:55 PM #105This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’s not our fault LD abolished it. Probably ends up costing us a bit more than a loyalty scheme would cost, if you miss the odd match or so.
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06-06-2018 04:55 PM #106This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm behind HSL 100% but that wasn't a great 1st line.
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06-06-2018 04:56 PM #107This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 04:57 PM #108This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
However, developing our existing players improves the team every bit as much as signing new players and is probably more cost effective so, like you, I would be all for including it.
I would quible with your last statement, since NONE of HSL money goes into the playing budget. A budget details money you expect to have available over the coming year and how you intend spending it. With any luck this will be the same as your actual income and expenditure, but often isn't. Not sure this helps any though.
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06-06-2018 05:00 PM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
GC felt having a sports psychologist could have helped with his mental preparation.
As it turned out, he was quality anyway!
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06-06-2018 05:03 PM #110This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 05:52 PM #112
Haha. Delicate wee souls getting 'irked'. Get a grip. HSL is a great initiative, the more people who get behind it the better.
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06-06-2018 05:57 PM #113This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-06-2018 06:08 PM #114This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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06-06-2018 06:31 PM #115
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06-06-2018 06:55 PM #116This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
i do agree with you that it’s far from an ideal situation with fans always picking up the tab but we are where we are. There’s no money in scottish football.
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06-06-2018 06:58 PM #117This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What we can have is a stake that deters the predators.... the romanovs and Mercers of this world who would seek to do us harm.
any single owner comes with an element of risk. I don’t want to ever have to worry about some charlatan killing my club ever again.
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06-06-2018 07:03 PM #118
I paid into HSL at £18.75 a month, attained membership, paid for a bit longer then my cirucmstances changed so I stopped. One day I'll start again when it's viable.
I can't say in that time I've felt pressured to start again by HSLs posts on here, Twitter or the official site. I can't afford a BMW, a Carribean cruise or a suite at Claridges so I don't feel pressured into those either. When any it (HSL payments' become a possibility a little prod in the right direction might just remind me I want to do it. Until then I have the ability to say no thanks the same as everyone else. The more visible HSL is the better imo, it's not forcing anyone to do anything.
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06-06-2018 07:20 PM #119
I really admire what HSL are trying to do and I fully support it. Well done to everyone who gives up their time for free in getting behind this. However, one thing which I do notice, is that it could maybe all look a little more professional, structured and official. The .net posts with spelling mistakes/guilt tripping isn’t going to do it any good. Could benefit from a big refresh and something a lot more punchy/professional. All only my opinion which I am sure means eff all anyways.
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06-06-2018 07:24 PM #120This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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