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    Boyle Chance

    Just watched the game back this afternoon and wondered if anybody knows what the foul was given against Boyle at the end for?

    The ball is played back to Plukey from a Celtc defender and Boyle almost nips in and gets the ball only for the ref to blow for a free kick. What was it for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    Just watched the game back this afternoon and wondered if anybody knows what the foul was given against Boyle at the end for?

    The ball is played back to Plukey from a Celtc defender and Boyle almost nips in and gets the ball only for the ref to blow for a free kick. What was it for?

    He ran from off the field of play back on. Thats all I can think of.

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    He ran from off the field of play back on. Thats all I can think of.
    I had thought that but he was only off the park through momentum from the previous passage of play. It’s not as if he deliberately came back on after an injury and gaining an advantage.

    Not sure if that’s the rule
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    I had thought that but he was only off the park through momentum from the previous passage of play. It’s not as if he deliberately came back on, gaining an advantage.

    Not sure if that’s the rule
    I don’t think it is. There was no foul, he brushed against Gordon, that’s it.

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    The linesman didn't flag for offside so can only assume McLean made up a foul in his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    The linesman didn't flag for offside so can only assume McLean made up a foul in his head.
    Couldn’t be offside as the Celtc player passed the ball back.

    Made up foul sounds exactly what it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    The linesman didn't flag for offside so can only assume McLean made up a foul in his head.
    Looked that way slight imagined pull on the Celtic defender.

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    It looked as though he'd given it for a foul against Gordon from where I was. Probably to save face for Gordon after having his pants taken off him for the second time in the space of 30 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    It looked as though he'd given it for a foul against Gordon from where I was. Probably to save face for Gordon after having his pants taken off him for the second time in the space of 30 seconds
    I assumed the same - over protection for the goalie. He needs it as he’s particularly pish at football - no wonder he’s in goals.

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    I thought I was for a pull on the defender after plukey got it away

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    Not sure, but suspect it was deemed that Boyle deliberately stayed off the field of play. He stayed down for longer than necessary in the goals behind the line and only re-entered when the 2nd chance presented itself. I think.

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    He was booked for making Gordon look like an erse😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
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    Not sure, but suspect it was deemed that Boyle deliberately stayed off the field of play. He stayed down for longer than necessary in the goals behind the line and only re-entered when the 2nd chance presented itself. I think.
    What is the rule on that however? As I reckon the ref made that one up.

    Say a player slides out hit an advertising board and comes back on a couple of seconds later...would he be penalised for interfering with play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
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    Not sure, but suspect it was deemed that Boyle deliberately stayed off the field of play. He stayed down for longer than necessary in the goals behind the line and only re-entered when the 2nd chance presented itself. I think.
    This. He waited at the post. He's offside immediately and active in trying to win the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Rourke3 View Post
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    This. He waited at the post. He's offside immediately and active in trying to win the ball.
    Can't be offside as the ball was played back by a Celtic defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Rourke3 View Post
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    This. He waited at the post. He's offside immediately and active in trying to win the ball.
    But it was the Celtic defender who passed back to the goalie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    What is the rule on that however? As I reckon the ref made that one up.

    Say a player slides out hit an advertising board and comes back on a couple of seconds later...would he be penalised for interfering with play
    You're technically not allowed to leave the field of play without permission or, having left it, re-enter it without permission. I would imagine the latter is the reason he gave the free kick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18 SFR View Post
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    Can't be offside as the ball was played back by a Celtic defender.
    It was but I think he's still "offside"/technical infringment. Offside rule too techy these days. Lino gave two yesterday where the player offside was miles from being active. He conveniently forgot that rule when Celtic managed to make sure they got a throw in next to our flag second half when the player well offsite got active closing our defender down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    You're technically not allowed to leave the field of play without permission or, having left it, re-enter it without permission. I would imagine the latter is the reason he gave the free kick.
    So what your saying is that if someone runs off the pitch for even a split second...he is not allowed in play?
    Momentum can easily do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    So what your saying is that if someone runs off the pitch for even a split second...he is not allowed in play?
    Momentum can easily do that.
    I don’t know the rules on this but I think it’s probably one of the rare occasions refs are allowed to apply common sense.

    If someone is running down the wing and finds themselves momentarily stepping off the park off course they won’t get pulled up for it, if however someone goes off the pitch and stays there in an attempt to avoid the off side rule then the ref is likely to stop the play.

    I don’t know how long Boyle was off for but when I saw it on the tele it didn’t seem right at the time, I wasn’t sure why but blowing the whistle for a foul seemed the right thing to do even if I wasn’t sure of the offence.

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    I don’t know the rules on this but I think it’s probably one of the rare occasions refs are allowed to apply common sense.

    If someone is running down the wing and finds themselves momentarily stepping off the park off course they won’t get pulled up for it, if however someone goes off the pitch and stays there in an attempt to avoid the off side rule then the ref is likely to stop the play.

    I don’t know how long Boyle was off for but when I saw it on the tele it didn’t seem right at the time, I wasn’t sure why but blowing the whistle for a foul seemed the right thing to do even if I wasn’t sure of the offence.
    He wouldn’t have avoided the offside rule though as even though he’s off the pitch he would have still been classed as ‘active’ if a Hibs player had played the ball with him still over the goal-line.

    It’s strange as there were no complaints from any of the players so might be one of these rules that nobody knows about (or a made up foul)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    He wouldn’t have avoided the offside rule though as even though he’s off the pitch he would have still been classed as ‘active’ if a Hibs player had played the ball with him still over the goal-line.

    It’s strange as there were no complaints from any of the players so might be one of these rules that nobody knows about (or a made up foul)
    There was a change to the laws a few years ago after a player in some high profile game had gone off the pitch due to momentum for some reason during normal play, and then hung about off the pitch to avoid being offside, came back on and scored. I admit to my memory having potentially got some facts wrong in the detail as to why, but if the ball had come from a hibs player Boyle would have been offside despite being off the pitch. Momentum taking you off the pitch doesn't cause an issue, but the player should come back as soon as they can. Boyle didn't. I suspect he was penalised for that, but again might be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan69 View Post
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    So what your saying is that if someone runs off the pitch for even a split second...he is not allowed in play?
    Momentum can easily do that.
    It's a technical offence, so it's for the referee to interpret and decide if the player has sought to gain an unfair advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    He wouldn’t have avoided the offside rule though as even though he’s off the pitch he would have still been classed as ‘active’ if a Hibs player had played the ball with him still over the goal-line.

    It’s strange as there were no complaints from any of the players so might be one of these rules that nobody knows about (or a made up foul)
    I don't think he would have been "classed as active". You can't be offside if you aren't on the pitch when the ball is played.

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    I thought it was was for a foul on the keeper. Nothing to do with being off the pitch. Gordon played the ball just before Boyle got there.

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    I don't think he would have been "classed as active". You can't be offside if you aren't on the pitch when the ball is played.
    yes you can, if you are off the pitch without the referee's permission. Just like a defender who is behind the goal line is treated as being active, if he doesn't have permission to be off the pitch.

    I agree with the above though, I thought it was a foul rather than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    yes you can, if you are off the pitch without the referee's permission. Just like a defender who is behind the goal line is treated as being active, if he doesn't have permission to be off the pitch.

    I agree with the above though, I thought it was a foul rather than anything else.
    Ref didn't have his hand in the air, so if it was offside he didn't signal correctly. Therefore, can only summise it was for a foul. as an aside, I remember someone in a big game, many years ago, stepping into the goal to prevent himself being offside, and being praised for his ingenuity. It's definitely not allowed now!

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    Standing or lying in the net area is not leaving the field off play

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    Standing or lying in the net area is not leaving the field off play
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