Where will Hibs be in 5 years time?

[PatHead]

I was talking to someone the other day about where we see Hibs in 5 years? Looking at the general financial state of the opposition we both feel there is a massive opportunity to be the second club in Scotland over that period. Taking Aberdeen ‘s position. We have the infrastructure so there is nothing to hold us back. Personally I think another cup win and at least 3 second places with a group stage in the Europa league is not an unreasonable target. How does everyone else feel.?

[1van Sprou7e]

Great thing to aim for but we're not going to reach the group stage any time soon unfortunately

[Mikeystewart]

There are so many random variables to consider, sometimes no amount of future planning and stability can make up for bringing in a crop of decent youngsters that can skew the league table.

I think regular top 6 is a realistic expectation.

[PatHead]

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There are so many random variables to consider, sometimes no amount of future planning and stability can make up for bringing in a crop of decent youngsters that can skew the league table.

I think regular top 6 is a realistic expectation.

I think we should expect more than that and would be really disappointed if that is seen as success.

[JeMeSouviens]

Sounds great but could easily go tits up. Lennon and Dempster could be tempted away any time. Getting the right replacements is not exactly a given.

Enjoy the moment!

[Elephant Stone]

Newco are a mess just now but they'll still sell something like 45,000 season tickets. If they appoint a decent manager then I don't see much of an opportunity for us to be the second best team consistently. It's something to aim for but I think we should be realistically looking at 3rd/4th and making cup finals.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Another cup or two is very realistic. The whole club is pulling in the same direction and geared towards success. We have winners in every department. I think we'll be challenging Rangers for second over the next few years with Aberdeen dropping off a bit.

[Thecat23]

Fighting for top 4 same as just now.

[GreenCastle]

Unlike previous cup wins we seemed to have really pushed on this time.

I’ve said it for a long time this club has potential if they get the right people leading it and managing it.

Scottish teams and Europa league don’t exactly go well. It would be fantastic to get there one day though but would need an improved team.

[danhibees1875]

We probably had a better all-round team with the "golden generation" and after the cup win in 07 it was 9 years of steady decline...

We are however better prepared this time round - stadium complete, training facilities owned, record ST sales... Lennon could play a big part in it all actually. He's been around the block as a manager, with an unsuccessful stint in England and very successful with, the stress and spotlight of, Celtic. If he decides that Hibs is a good fit for him where he can enjoy managing and have a challenge then he should be looking at a 5 year plan (similar to what Collins came out with once, I think).
Along with a supportive and settled board room backing the manager financially, I think we can kick on and we should be aiming to qualify for Europe more often that not, with eventually reaching the group stages.

[theonlywayisup]

Let's not forget that a few season ago we were playing to less than 9,000 fans. Call me negative but those days could easily return.

Let's enjoy ourselves whilst it last.

Though theonlywayisup.

[JDHibs]

This is what im going to expect going forward -

- Top 4
- Atleast 1 semi final in a cup competition
- Atleast 1 young lad making a decent break through into first team squad.

Not too much to ask for. That should keep the fans coming out in their numbers. Not going to predict Euro targets as in general Scottish teams dont do well in qualifiers etc due it being pre season etc.

[BSEJVT]

Straiton

[worcesterhibby]

I will be very interested to see how we go about replacing John McGinn/Dylan (assuming they do leave before next season) I think will will tell us a lot about whether we can continue to improve and set high standards or if we are likely looking at a high point and future dropping off as we have seen in the past so often.

retaining Leeane and NL is very important too, for a couple of years at least, as is finding a deputy at left back for Lewis and ensuring we have enough fire power up front.

get it right and we should be top four finishers every year, with a very good chance of cup success. Hell we might even surprise a few people if we get a decent/lucky draw in Europe.

[Mikeystewart]

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I think we should expect more than that and would be really disappointed if that is seen as success.

I wouldn't consider it success either.

But with 2 teams with 10x our resources and 3 other teams of comparative size challenging for 3,4,5 i would consider regular top 6 as a realistic expectation.

It only takes one bad transfer window and a few injuries to get sucked into the bottom 6.

Edit: It's football a term like 'expectation' is often misappropriated. If expectation and reality had any correlation football wouldn't be worth watching.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Leeann has already stated our goals for the coming years. To finish in the Euro places and to compete in Europe and get to the latter stages of the domestic cup competitions. I would like to think we can manage that. I would like to see another cup win or two in the next couple of years

Do not be fooled by the current state of the huns, they can turn that around with a semi competent person at the helm, they should now be clear in 2nd every year, they are because they have a crook at the helm and no direction football wise. They have 3 times as many ST buyers than us so to compete with them we need to keep the management team we have at the moment.

[Smartie]

It's all been going in the right direction for a while, which is good.

Our biggest challenge will be when we hit the first bump on the road - do we brush it off or do we implode? We cannot afford to grow a sense of entitlement like Rangers or Hearts suffer from - Hearts were toddling along nicely under Robbie Neilson until they felt they deserved better and caused themselves a good few problems. We may lose Dempster or Lennon, we might even lose our entire midfield and front line this summer so there are plenty of challenges ahead that need to be overcome.

I don't actually think Celtic are anything like as great as many people do, and they have been able to get away with not being anywhere near their best far too often this season and many seasons pre-Rodgers. If we were to keep the whole squad we have right now, together with our manager and a tweak or two then I'd be wanting to see us push them next year. In reality, I think next year will probably be a transition season that we should be happy to finish in 4th place or so.

Who knows where we'll be in 5 years? We should just enjoy the right now though, because the football is good - and it hasn't often been as good as this.

[Juniper Greens]

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Let's not forget that a few season ago we were playing to less than 9,000 fans. Call me negative but those days could easily return.

Let's enjoy ourselves whilst it last.

Though theonlywayisup.

Whilst the fact in the fist line is true, I think comment perfectly sums up a problem we have had as a support and a club for too long now. We are always too quick to put ourselves down, i.e. when things are going well "just enjoy the moment" or when things are bad "we can't expect to be much better".

As fans, we have a responsibility to try and grow the club, reaching out to new supporters and this requires us to be optimistic and sell Hibs as an attractive club to support!

Mon the Cabbage!

[IWasThere2016]

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Straiton

Has Rodders not got a live 5-Year Plan? (Double )

[Brightside]

Top 4 is all we can hope for....no money in Scottish football and that wont change. Forget about anything more than initial rounds in europe.

[Speedy]

Expectation is top 6 every year and at least a couple of semi finals in the next 5 years. Not hitting that is akin to failure.

Success would be top 4 more often than not, regular semi finals, top odd 2nd/3rd place and a couple of cup finals.

Winning cups and regularly being top 3 is above and beyond. The reality with Scottish football is that you are doing very well to keep a top team for more than a couple of seasons because your best players/managers/execs will be cherry-picked.

[Callyballybe]

I think we'll see the biggest challenge when there is a regime change, and I don't mean Lennon.

Once Dempster moves on to pastures new who we bring in then will have massive bearing on whether or not the club can 'sustain' the incumbent good times. I love Lennon, but even when he does decide to move on I've enough faith in our Chief Exec that a viable replacement will be found. She gets the club, she gets the fans and is very good in her role.

Whether we like to admit it or not, The Rangers are punching below their weight in the SPL. With 45,000 season tickets and everything that goes along with that, all it takes is one good manager and they'll most likely pull away in second.

Fighting for a top 4 finish regularly and pushing for regular semi final appearances (and better) is where we should be aiming. In terms of 5 years time? For me it really depends on whether Dempster is still here, and (most probably) if not, then the capabilities of the candidate that has replaced her.

[Keith_M]

We have financial stability with very low debt, a completed Stadium, our own training centre and we currently have the 3rd highest average home attendance in Scotland (leaving aside the Yams' skewed Murrayfield visiting supports)

To me that means we should be capable of, with the occasional blip (**** happens), finishing in the top four most seasons, playing regularly in Europe (i.e. at least 1 season in 2), and hopefully a cup win now and again.


If we ever challenged for the title I'd be over the moon, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[Ozyhibby]

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Great thing to aim for but we're not going to reach the group stage any time soon unfortunately

Why not?



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[B.H.F.C]

Europa League group stages isn’t as unrealistic as it sounds. There are clubs reaching that stage who are considerably smaller than a Hibs or an Aberdeen and the game isn’t overflowing with money outside the top, top leagues.

Do I expect it to happen? Not particularly. But it is definitely something to aim for.

We’ve competed well in cups and should continue to do so.

This summer is a big one though. We have a good team currently but there is the prospect of losing some good players who won’t be easy to replace.

[Ozyhibby]

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Europa League group stages isn’t as unrealistic as it sounds. There are clubs reaching that stage who are considerably smaller than a Hibs or an Aberdeen and the game isn’t overflowing with money outside the top, top leagues.

Do I expect it to happen? Not particularly. But it is definitely something to aim for.

We’ve competed well in cups and should continue to do so.

This summer is a big one though. We have a good team currently but there is the prospect of losing some good players who won’t be easy to replace.

Giant clubs from last seasons europa leagues include
Zorya
Gabala
Dundalk
Sassuola
Konyaspor
Liberec
FCSB




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[ancient hibee]

If McGinn can be given a deal to encourage him to sign a one year extension to his contract we’ll know the ambition of the club.

[Halifaxhibby]

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It's all been going in the right direction for a while, which is good.

Our biggest challenge will be when we hit the first bump on the road - do we brush it off or do we implode? We cannot afford to grow a sense of entitlement like Rangers or Hearts suffer from - Hearts were toddling along nicely under Robbie Neilson until they felt they deserved better and caused themselves a good few problems. We may lose Dempster or Lennon, we might even lose our entire midfield and front line this summer so there are plenty of challenges ahead that need to be overcome.

I don't actually think Celtic are anything like as great as many people do, and they have been able to get away with not being anywhere near their best far too often this season and many seasons pre-Rodgers. If we were to keep the whole squad we have right now, together with our manager and a tweak or two then I'd be wanting to see us push them next year. In reality, I think next year will probably be a transition season that we should be happy to finish in 4th place or so.

Who knows where we'll be in 5 years? We should just enjoy the right now though, because the football is good - and it hasn't often been as good as this.

Bang on mate.

[Smartie]

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Why not?



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The biggest reason why not is the timing of the fixtures.

If we played the opening rounds when Scottish teams were anywhere near fit then our results would be miles better.

We're papped our every year before we're even ready to get started.


Other than that though, there is no good reason. I love European football and would love to see Hibs in the group stages of the Europa League. Putting in an improved performance in Europe should be the target of all Scottish clubs.

[we are hibs]

We need to be targeting winning a trophy every 2/3/4 years rather than every 10+.Winnings
trophies = better players wanting to join the club and more money generated through crowds and merchandise. A system needs to be in place so we have replacements lined up should a Player or manager leave and the player and manager should buy into the values of the club and the way we want to play.

Dempster said when she came in she wanted to see more young kids wearing hibs tops around Edinburgh and young fans coming to back the team. I think the cup win has seen that improve and if we continue to sign good players and play fast attacking football then Easter road will
be a more tempting place for a
young person to be at the weekend rather than sitting about playing ps4s all day.