I am having a wee crisis of conscience. As an Englishman who has lived in Edinburgh and supported Hibs for over 30 years and been a Hibs ST holder for over 20 years I don't think many Hibees would object to my wearing of the Hibs tartan. My problem is my feelings about those that I call pseudo Scots - the 4th or 5th generation American/Canadian/Australians etc. who descend on Scotland every year looking for any obscure connection between their family tree and any clan/tartan and then go home with a full Highland Dress outfit to join in all kinds of Scottish related events instead of being content to be American/Canadian/Australians etc. The same could be said about those of (long ago) Irish descent. My son and daughter were 6 months and two and a half years old when they came to live here and through school/friends/work etc. they feel and behave as native Scots so why do 5th or 6th generation natives of the aforementioned countries feel the need look elsewhere for their roots? My kids don't hanker for a "knees up Mother Brown" or want to dress up as a Pearly King or Queen, they are as happy with their nationality as I am with mine.
So - with this in mind do I wear the Hibs full monty to my daughter's wedding or a suit? The groom and his 2 best men (the 3 amigos) will be wearing kilts and I'm sure my daughter would prefer me to do the same. The groom is a Hearts supporter (a really good guy) so I also feel that the Hibs tartan could be construed as a GIRUY to the groom and his family. I have no love of anything maroon or Heart's supporters in general, but I'm not daft and I know there are (a few) good ones out there. I did think of getting a waistcoat in Hibs tartan to wear with my suit but have had no luck finding a source.
I keep swithering back and forth and I only have a few months to make a decision.
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29-03-2018 09:26 AM #1
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Do I wear the Hibs tartan at my daughter's wedding?
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29-03-2018 09:31 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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29-03-2018 09:32 AM #3
If your daughter wants you to wear a kilt go for it. If the jambos don't like your family tartan
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29-03-2018 09:34 AM #5
Do it.
It's a nod to your current home and a big part of your life. I can't imagine any Hearts fans seeing it as anything other than the above and maybe a bit banter, no one would surely take it as a GIRUY.
If your daughter thinks of herself as Scottish I'm sure she'd appreciate you wearing a kilt and I'd think the grooms family would feel the same; it would be a nice touch.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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29-03-2018 09:36 AM #6
I got married this year to a Jambo I wen't with my own Tartan but made sure a few mates came in the Hibs tartan,
I would go for the Hibs Tartan, :)
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29-03-2018 09:38 AM #8
Do it.
But more importantly, make sure your baws are hanging free. Nothing worse than someone wearing undies with a kilt 😉
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I don’t follow rugby but wore the Scottish rugby union tartan which is made up of Hibs colours and managed to get my jambo best man in it along with the Englishman giving the bride away. A double whammy.
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29-03-2018 09:43 AM #11
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If your daughter wants you to wear it then that's all you need to know.
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29-03-2018 09:47 AM #12
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I'd have a word first with them,I know if a future father in law of mine turned up at my wedding with a Hearts tartan WW3 would be kicked off early.
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29-03-2018 09:49 AM #13
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29-03-2018 09:55 AM #14
If others are wearing Hertz tartan then its your duty as a Hibby to wear it, unless the bride wants you all the same then a neutral tartan would b in order
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29-03-2018 10:17 AM #15
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Dont overthink it. If the grooms okay with it then go for it.
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29-03-2018 10:25 AM #16
Wear it with pride GH. I've been to many weddings where blokes from furth of Scotland have worn the kilt and these days it doesn't really matter. It's your kilt and your choice and whether there are guests of other footballing persuasions or not shouldn't really come into it.
I just have one thing. Tweed jacket for the day, black jacket for the evening.
Hope all goes well and it's a great day.
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29-03-2018 10:30 AM #17
If someone was knob enough to turn up at my wedding wearing Hearts tartan kilt I'd think they were using the opportunity of my wedding to be a complete tool. In other words the day is about the wedding, not about which team you support. Though the groom seems to be of a different view.
On the other hand a wee nod in that direction with either a Hibs tartan tie - or a waistcoat at a pinch - may be ok. But to be honest as the father of the bride I think you're in the spotlight so I'd go Hibs class, rise above it and not wear Hibs tartan. I would not, however, miss and hit the wall in my speech as father of the bride. In fact if I were flush enough I'd announce one of my wedding day gifts to the happy couple in my speech - season tickets at Easter Road from their grandparents for any grandchildren to come. I'd also be tempted to try to place well hidden easter eggs throughout my speech - references to 1973, 0-7, 6-2, 114, 21st May, poppies (ouch), natural order. Or maybe even write the speech in such a way that the first word of every paragraph spells out a hidden message. eg "Forever I'll be singing..."
At the end of the day all that matters is what your daughter wants. I'd say she's sacrificing enough marrying a Jambo. I'm conflicted between behaving and just going for it. Depends on how much Jamboness the groom and fellow window lickers will introduce to the proceedings. Just make sure you get Sunshine on Leith played at the reception at some point, then stand well back and watch the fireworks. They hate it.
But the main question is - how the ****** have we got to the point where she's marrying a Jambo?
Oh and fine to wear a kilt.
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29-03-2018 10:47 AM #18
To be honest, you're only the father of the bride. You're only there to appear in a couple of photos and pay for everything.
You'd be perfectly entitled to wear full highland in a Hibs tartan, unless your daughter says different.
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29-03-2018 10:47 AM #19
Wear it with pride, and prepare to have the pish ripped out of you.
It's part of the fun of the occasion.
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29-03-2018 11:05 AM #20
Provided it isn't genuinely an issue with the groom's family I cant see any reason you shouldn't wear the Hibs tartan. As for your 'right' to wear a kilt I wouldn't worry about that mate, if you want to go down that route half the folk born and bred in Scotland wouldn't be allowed to wear one, never mind 10th generation ex pats or folk with no historic connection to Scotland whatsoever.
The rise in tartans people can associate with that doesn't involve a 'family name' has probably come about as a direct result of the snobbery of some sections of Scottish society who tried to maintain that unless you could prove a connection to a clan or whatever you shouldn't be wearing a kilt .... The truth is nobody in this part of Scotland should wear one if you want to be historically accurate ... none of the Scottish lowland army regiments wear kilts, its always the 'trews' south o' Perth.
My mate and his entourage wore Hibs kilts at his wedding years ago and its as nice a tartan as you will ever see in any kilt .... go for it mate
PS ..... If you want to lighten the mood you could always replace your Sgian dubh with a spoonLast edited by NAE NOOKIE; 29-03-2018 at 11:09 AM.
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29-03-2018 11:20 AM #21
Just don't do what ex-Hearts goalkeeper, Steve Banks, did and wear it back to front.
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29-03-2018 11:25 AM #22
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You don't have any Scottish blood in you so do not wear a kilt.
Residence does not equate with history.
Very good question you asked in the first place - respect to you.
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29-03-2018 11:29 AM #24
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Wear it. You know you want to.
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29-03-2018 11:56 AM #26
Speak with your daughter, if she wants you to wear the kilt- then wear it. And in any colour, that wouldn't bother me. It's your daughters day and I'm sure you'd do anything to make her happy. Have a great day when it comes.
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Wear the kilt if that's what your daughter and you would like to do.
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29-03-2018 12:00 PM #28
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you're allowing your daughter to marry a Jambo?
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29-03-2018 12:09 PM #29
It's a no from me which is all down to my personal feeling. I am 50 and since August have lived in Edinburgh longer than Liverpool (25 years and a few months). My wife is Scottish and our son born and bred in Scotland is obviously Scottish. I love to see him dressed in his kilt and he has attended numerous functions, weddings etc down south wearing a kilt as you would expect. I have never worn a kilt and never will. I just don't feel that as an English man I have the right to wear a kilt, and would feel as if I was an imposter.
I know many folk will say I am being daft and of course I know of many English adopted Scots including my close friends who wear kilts to functions.
It just doesn't sit right with me, though I agree a kilt looks fantastic and I know I would never be criticised for wearing one.
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29-03-2018 12:10 PM #30
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