Thread: Sjm

**Greenbeard** · 29-03-2018 08:37 AM

Most on here seem resigned to SJM moving on in the summer. Simon Donnelly in The Hootsmon this morning urging the Tic to sign him as successor to Broony who I note will soon be 33. How's about a swap? We could get a couple of good years from Broony back at his spiritual home. Would mean less or even no spare dosh for other signings, deals or training facilities upgrade, but SJM's departure is going to leave a big hole to fill in the midfield and who better?

***Jones28*** · 29-03-2018 08:40 AM

Would Brown want to come back?

We are obsessed with bringing former players back.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 29-03-2018 08:40 AM

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Most on here seem resigned to SJM moving on in the summer. Simon Donnelly in The Hootsmon this morning urging the Tic to sign him as successor to Broony who I note will soon be 33. How's about a swap? We could get a couple of good years from Broony back at his spiritual home. Would mean less or even no spare dosh for other signings, deals or training facilities upgrade, but SJM's departure is going to leave a big hole to fill in the midfield and who better?

Aye that would be great, i'm a little worried about the wages thing though, and the fact that he's celtics captain at the moment.

Do you think we could get round these obstacles?

***Hibbyradge*** · 29-03-2018 08:45 AM

No thanks.

1. I'd rather not have to see him playing for Celtic.

2. NL could do a lot with our share of SJMs transfer fee.

3. We have an indoor pitch to build.

***Thief*** · 29-03-2018 08:48 AM

Think Scott will end his career at hibs, but think he’ll have at least one more full season at Celtic

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**SirDavidsNapper** · 29-03-2018 08:51 AM

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Most on here seem resigned to SJM moving on in the summer. Simon Donnelly in The Hootsmon this morning urging the Tic to sign him as successor to Broony who I note will soon be 33. How's about a swap? We could get a couple of good years from Broony back at his spiritual home. Would mean less or even no spare dosh for other signings, deals or training facilities upgrade, but SJM's departure is going to leave a big hole to fill in the midfield and who better?

I've thought about this too and i have a feeling Brown might end up back at Hibs. Wouldn't be against it as he's probably the most decorated player we're likely to see in this country for a while and his experience would be invaluable. I don't think it will be a deal involving SJM however..

I'd like to see SJM move to England. He has a huge future ahead of him and the sell on Rod will have written in will make us an absolute fortune in the future i have no doubts.

***w pilton hibby*** · 29-03-2018 08:53 AM

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Think Scott will end his career at hibs, but think he’ll have at least one more full season at Celtic

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No chance of that according to this:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-ends-12267981

***blackpoolhibs*** · 29-03-2018 08:53 AM

Saw an online interview with Brown only yesterday, saying although he has fond memories of Hibs, he see's himself finishing his career at Parkhead.

**Greenbeard** · 29-03-2018 08:53 AM

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No thanks.

1. I'd rather not have to see him playing for Celtic.

2. NL could do a lot with our share of SJMs transfer fee.

3. We have an indoor pitch to build.

1. Understand many will feel like that. But Bronny back here would soften those feelings, no?
2. and 3. AS I said, accepted these are options which would be hit without SJM dosh. You pays your money......

Ideal swap for me would be a deal done this summer but with the swap not taking place til Jan so we have SJM for Europe (confidence) and early season.

**~~Sauzee16~~** · 29-03-2018 08:57 AM

Whoever John leaves us to go to I feel it would be more beneficial to get a player swap and a high percentage of the next sale instead of the transfer fee which will be due partially to St Mirren.

***Billy Whizz*** · 29-03-2018 08:59 AM

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Whoever John leaves us to go to I feel it would be more beneficial to get a player swap and a high percentage of the next sale instead of the transfer fee which will be due partially to St Mirren.

Who do you fancy in return

**Greenbeard** · 29-03-2018 09:00 AM

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No chance of that according to this:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...-ends-12267981

Ach weel........ Full size indoor pitch it is then.

**~~Sauzee16~~** · 29-03-2018 09:01 AM

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Who do you fancy in return

If Celtic? Calvin Miller and Scott Allan?

***Hibbyradge*** · 29-03-2018 09:02 AM

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Whoever John leaves us to go to I feel it would be more beneficial to get a player swap and a high percentage of the next sale instead of the transfer fee which will be due partially to St Mirren.

A value would be placed on any player we took in a swap deal and we would have to pay St Mirren the agreed percentage of that.

There would be no financial benefit to be had.

And, although we might have a high sell on clause agreed with his new club, in your scenario, we'd get nothing if they did a swap deal.

Finally, if he does go to Celtic, the likelihood of him moving may be slim anyway. See Scott Brown.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-03-2018 09:03 AM

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Whoever John leaves us to go to I feel it would be more beneficial to get a player swap and a high percentage of the next sale instead of the transfer fee which will be due partially to St Mirren.

If it is a player swap, that player, and SJM, will be valued in the deal. St Mirren will be due their cut of the SJM value.

**SirDavidsNapper** · 29-03-2018 09:03 AM

Broony needs to come home if only to get away from Rodgers calling him Browny all the time like a bloody small cake

**EH54** · 29-03-2018 09:04 AM

If Celtic Allan would be a start. I would rather not see Hibs sell to Celtic however if it means getting another quality player back in return its a no brainier. IMO

**~~Sauzee16~~** · 29-03-2018 09:06 AM

Sorry guys I didn’t realise that. I thought a percentage in transfer fee for McGinn was exactly that.

**EH54** · 29-03-2018 09:07 AM

If the player being part of the deal is taking into account who Values him? for instance if we Sell McGinn to Celtic for a fee and Scott Allan who decided Scott Allan's value?

**Vini1875** · 29-03-2018 09:09 AM

Not sure Scott Brown at Hibs would be good business for us. Wages aside, he would likely that he is too big for the club. He apparently was a rangers fan as a boy and that has clearly gone. He is a celtc legend so he is hardly going to want to tarnish that by playing for another Scottish club.

Good luck to him, but he is winding down. SJM on the other hand is a player on the rise, he is improving all the time. I hope to never witness him in a celtc shirt, if he leaves it should be for an EPL club.

**~~Sauzee16~~** · 29-03-2018 09:09 AM

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If the player being part of the deal is taking into account who Values him? for instance if we Sell McGinn to Celtic for a fee and Scott Allan who decided Scott Allan's value?

I vote for Sevco. They valued Allan at £20 and a bottle of ginger.

**Smartie** · 29-03-2018 09:12 AM

I don't see Brown playing for Hibs again.

He'll stay at Celtic until he's past his best, then he'll be no use to us.

I don't think we're so far behind Celtic that this is the kind of deal we'd be interested in, and I don't think he'd want to play for us whilst he still has so much to offer Celtic.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-03-2018 09:15 AM

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If the player being part of the deal is taking into account who Values him? for instance if we Sell McGinn to Celtic for a fee and Scott Allan who decided Scott Allan's value?

The clubs, just as they do in a cash deal.

**EH54** · 29-03-2018 09:22 AM

Aye but if that's between Celtic and Hibs I would imagine Hibs would make sure the Allen valuation was as low as possible so they wouldn't need to part with any cash with St Mirren, It would make no difference to Celtic was Allan's valuation is if a deal is agreed.

***Hibbyradge*** · 29-03-2018 09:28 AM

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Aye but if that's between Celtic and Hibs I would imagine Hibs would make sure the Allen valuation was as low as possible so they wouldn't need to part with any cash with St Mirren, It would make no difference to Celtic was Allan's valuation is if a deal is agreed.

That would be cheating.

It would affect Celtic because they'd have to pay more for SJM.

It's not possible anyway.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 29-03-2018 09:33 AM

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Aye but if that's between Celtic and Hibs I would imagine Hibs would make sure the Allen valuation was as low as possible so they wouldn't need to part with any cash with St Mirren, It would make no difference to Celtic was Allan's valuation is if a deal is agreed.

If there was any hint of artificially-low values being used, St Mirren would be justified in appealling to the SFA.

That apart, the players would probably need to be properly valued for insurance purposes.

**Daydreamer** · 29-03-2018 09:34 AM

If Mcginn is to go it should not be to celtic under any circumstances. We cannot afford any longer to sell to our main rivals. We now have a chance to win either of the cups each season due to the increased income from the crowds and being back in the premiership. Did anyone watch the first half of the last Rangers v celtic game? Brown was over run in the first half but came on to a great game in the second due to the 'everyone's against us' after the sending off.

**makaveli1875** · 29-03-2018 09:37 AM

its been mentioned on here before but if we lose SJM we should try to sign his brother Stephen . St Mirren have been unstoppable since they signed him , he plays a similar role to SJM and would be good for Allan if we manage to keep him

**keep the faith** · 29-03-2018 09:51 AM

Getting Allan back on a perm should be priority 1. If we get enough from an English club for SJM we can then buy SA.

I suspect strongly that he will be used as leverage by Celtic to get super John though.