Alan Muir

[brog]

Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10! Free kick taken results in a shot saved by Rocky & a corner which we eventually cleared. With the exception of the other Alan, Freeland, the most incompetent Scottish ref I've ever seen & that's some accolade! How do these people continue in their jobs?

[banarc7062]

Going back to Tiny Wharton days we did not seem to have the same crap decisions from Ref's and their linesmen. Tiny used to address players with respect...Mr ......., that was a bad tackle. He had the respect of players and did not seek the limelight. GGTTH

[Stevie Reid]

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Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10! Free kick taken results in a shot saved by Rocky & a corner which we eventually cleared. With the exception of the other Alan, Freeland, the most incompetent Scottish ref I've ever seen & that's some accolade! How do these people continue in their jobs?

Some real shockers last night, no doubt.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10! Free kick taken results in a shot saved by Rocky & a corner which we eventually cleared. With the exception of the other Alan, Freeland, the most incompetent Scottish ref I've ever seen & that's some accolade! How do these people continue in their jobs?

I think I had actually managed to mentally conflate Muir & Freeland into one super incompetent ref. Both ****** hopeless.

Honourable mention for the definitely-not-only-appointed-due-to-nepotism Andrew Dallas.

[seanoheimhin]

Totally agree, had a shocker. It's easy to complain about a referee when you've dropped points, but it speaks volumes that so many think he had a nightmare when we've won the game.

Taking way too long on clear cut decisions, it was as if each free kick he gave us led to a deduction from his wages.

Funny how you often hear 'X is a cheating *******' or 'Y knows what he's doing' about certain refs. Muir just looks like he's totally useless at his job.

[stoneyburn hibs]

It seemed at times that his decisions were delayed, as in he was looking for influence due to him not having a clue.

[KWJ]

Gotta get a gif of that McGregor foul and send to SPFL.

[BegbieHSC]

I almost blame him entirely for us getting put out in the play offs by Falkirk in 2016.

Absolute **** of a man!

[Geo_1875]

Did he book the Motherwell player who spent about a minute cursing at him and his linesman and the 4th official late in the second half? Didn't notice at the time.

[stoneyburn hibs]

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Did he book the Motherwell player who spent about a minute cursing at him and his linesman and the 4th official late in the second half? Didn't notice at the time.

No, mental decision.

[HoboHarry]

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Going back to Tiny Wharton days we did not seem to have the same crap decisions from Ref's and their linesmen. Tiny used to address players with respect...Mr ......., that was a bad tackle. He had the respect of players and did not seek the limelight. GGTTH

The level of respect was different then yes, but the tv cameras would have destroyed Tiny Wharton and his lack of mobility when he was on the field. He didn't have cameras on every angle pointing out his every error.

[we are hibs]

Wasn't he the guy who missed the blatant handball by the Falkirk player in the play offs? The linesman east stand side was clueless. Was a foul right Infront of him and the ref gave it from about 20 yards away and he didn't even flag

[GreenOnions]

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Did he book the Motherwell player who spent about a minute cursing at him and his linesman and the 4th official late in the second half? Didn't notice at the time.

That was Cadden - after he'd been all over Dylan McGeouch I think it was.

[JeMeSouviens]

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That was Cadden - after he'd been all over Dylan McGeouch I think it was.

It was McGinn doing his deflector shields thing.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10!

Think some people need to bone up on the new offside ruling and how it works and where the free kicks can be taken from. Dont blame the Refs for FIFA's mess they only apply the rules.

As for that incident Mamberi was offside.

As was seen earlier this season with Simon Murray the revised rule can even see the free kick awarded in your own half

[JimBHibees]

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I almost blame him entirely for us getting put out in the play offs by Falkirk in 2016.

Absolute **** of a man!

Agree simply a corrupt decision no other explanation. Appalling last night and surprisingly no more players injured given his total lack of control. He hss an isdue with us for some reason.

[JimBHibees]

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Did he book the Motherwell player who spent about a minute cursing at him and his linesman and the 4th official late in the second half? Didn't notice at the time.

Incredible sbow of sustained dissent. Players have been sent off for less.

[Not In The Know]

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Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10! Free kick taken results in a shot saved by Rocky & a corner which we eventually cleared. With the exception of the other Alan, Freeland, the most incompetent Scottish ref I've ever seen & that's some accolade! How do these people continue in their jobs?

He then played an extra minute injury time.

Incompetent or a cheat? Probably both.

[hibbysam]

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Think some people need to bone up on the new offside ruling and how it works and where the free kicks can be taken from. Dont blame the Refs for FIFA's mess they only apply the rules.

As for that incident Mamberi was offside.

As was seen earlier this season with Simon Murray the revised rule can even see the free kick awarded in your own half

The offside is when the player becomes active, in this case it was when he latched onto the ball, therefore the free kick is taken from there nd not the defensive line now. Therefore the free kick should’ve been taken even deeper than he did take it.

[hibbie02]

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Did his best to cost us the game again tonight, (along with East Stand lino). A minute to go & Kamberi is played through, Alba pics confirm well onside but the Well player who is the last man gesticulates long enough that the Lino puts his flag up. Carson then tries to take the free kick 20 yards in front of where the supposed offside occurred, Muir knocks him back to 10! Free kick taken results in a shot saved by Rocky & a corner which we eventually cleared. With the exception of the other Alan, Freeland, the most incompetent Scottish ref I've ever seen & that's some accolade! How do these people continue in their jobs?

I blame the Referees' Sponsor! They have got worse since Specsavers took over.....

[HoboHarry]

For those of you that are young enough - go take the exam and get yourself a career as a referee - the solution is (in part) in your hands......

[hibbysam]

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Think some people need to bone up on the new offside ruling and how it works and where the free kicks can be taken from. Dont blame the Refs for FIFA's mess they only apply the rules.

As for that incident Mamberi was offside.

As was seen earlier this season with Simon Murray the revised rule can even see the free kick awarded in your own half

As you can see, Flo is onside as per the centre half. He then gets flagged offside when he’s 10 yards from the byline - thus where the kick should be taken from, which is then taken from 20 yards up the pitch.

[JimBHibees]

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He then played an extra minute injury time.

Incompetent or a cheat? Probably both.

Definitely seemed longer than the 3 mins at the game last night

[JeMeSouviens]

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Definitely seemed longer than the 3 mins at the game last night

Just checked on Alba. The 3 mins is up as Well get a corner, he gives them another 20 secs to check they're not going to equalise from it. But nothing like an extra minute.

[lyonhibs]

Free kicks for offside are taken from where the player was when he was actually offside, not where he'd ran to by the time play was actually stopped surely?

[easty]

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As you can see, Flo is onside as per the centre half. He then gets flagged offside when he’s 10 yards from the byline - thus where the kick should be taken from, which is then taken from 20 yards up the pitch.

No I don't think that's correct, the freekick is awarded from where the player was offside, not where he was when the flag goes up. The freekick looks like it's actually taken deeper than it should have been.

[easty]

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As was seen earlier this season with Simon Murray the revised rule can even see the free kick awarded in your own half

I'm no a ref...but I'm 100% sure you cannae get a free kick for offside given against you in your own half.

[maturehibby]

It was foul and abusive language from Cadden not dissent and therefor was a definite ordering off
Don't know why he or the fourth official did not send off the Motherwell player
Lemon standing near the incident and had he addressed the officials with those words would have been ordered off and reported to SFA .
Last time I saw such flagrant foul and abusive language was again a Motherwell player James McFadden on Referee Dougie McDonald years ago and again that went unpunished
.saddens filthy and disgusting talk was of said on the street would amount to a breech of he peace .
Alba caught the whole thing on camera and there is plenty of evidence and while they blocked out the language I am sure it will be in the full video if the SFA decided to charge Cadden in spite of Mr Muir not doing so in a effort to protect the other Referees who should not put up with that .
Or any other human being .

[Geo_1875]

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I'm no a ref...but I'm 100% sure you cannae get a free kick for offside given against you in your own half.

You can't be offside in your own half but you can become offside when you return to your own half from your opponents half and become active in your own half while you were inactive while in your opponents half so the free kick is taken from your own half even though you weren't offiside in your own half.

No wonder women have trouble with the offside rule.

[scotiaf]

Was he not the guy against Falkirk along time ago, mowbray era ? Lost the game completely