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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Having to just give up your licence at 70 is utter bollox to me. Thinking of older (say late 70s+) drivers I know/knew, almost all of them realised themselves when their time was up. But I do admit there is a problem with some old people's driving skills deteriorating. I would hope that their GPs could play a part by advising them if they thought that reactions etc were diminishing but this obviously isn't going to completely solve it.
    On reflection I think an age limit is wrong, but I do think a test of some sort when you reach a certain age would be a sensible way to go.

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    So weíre agreed then? At the age of 70 you have to resit a driving test every year.

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    Why resit your test at 70 or any age? Why not do it every 5 or ten years. Some of the worst driving you will ever see is from folk in their 20s. I passed my test when I was 17 and now more than 34 years later no one has ever checked to see how good bad or indifferent my driving is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Why resit your test at 70 or any age? Why not do it every 5 or ten years. Some of the worst driving you will ever see is from folk in their 20s. I passed my test when I was 17 and now more than 34 years later no one has ever checked to see how good bad or indifferent my driving is.
    Can't see it happening. Would put too many jobs at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    Why resit your test at 70 or any age? Why not do it every 5 or ten years. Some of the worst driving you will ever see is from folk in their 20s. I passed my test when I was 17 and now more than 34 years later no one has ever checked to see how good bad or indifferent my driving is.
    I'd agree that some of the most reckless driving I've seen over the years is mostly deliberate behaviour from "younger" drivers, but I've also witnessed a shed load of potentially dangerous (but not intentionally so) driving from driver's that I'd politely class as senior citizens.
    Having a threshold where a competence check is carried out can't be a bad thing?
    And I realise you're not questioning your own abilities by using the elapsed years from testing to today for effect, but it genuinely isn't a bad idea to have your driving appraised by taking a 1-2 hour refresher lesson or going through an IAM Advanced Driving Course.
    I've been driving for 28 years and reckon I've had my driving appraised every 10 years through my work (3rd largest fleet in UK) and putting myself through a motorbike test as well as a one off advanced driver lesson.
    For as much as we all think we're competent drivers at worst, Lewis Hamilton at best, I'll happily admit that I did pick up some tips and had some minor traits corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
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    Can't see it happening. Would put too many jobs at risk.
    Considering the amount of folk that are killed on our roads each year, never mind injured, perhaps that's even more reason to have our fitness & competence to drive checked on a more regular basis. Would probably actually create jobs of anything.

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    And after the chat about 70+ and tests I nearly was involved in an accident this afternoon!

    Driving along Great Junction Street towards the Ferry Road lights, a cyclist drove off the far pavement, cut across the road, oblivious to me (he certainly couldnít hear me cause he had earphones in), saw me at the last moment and swerved away. He smiled inanely when he saw me say ďthat was a bit silly old chap!Ē

    Cyclists of all ages should have to prove they gave even opened the Highway Code 😡😡
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    On reflection I think an age limit is wrong, but I do think a test of some sort when you reach a certain age would be a sensible way to go.
    65 wouldn't necessarily be too young for that.

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    Just for a laugh I'm going to suggest anyone that doesn't pass their test first time shouldn't get another chance.

    After all being a competent driver only 50% of the time just isn't good enough. Don't get me started on those individuals regularly congratulated in the media for their perseverance at passing at their 30th attempt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Just for a laugh I'm going to suggest anyone that doesn't pass their test first time shouldn't get another chance.
    If you pass first time you think you know it all, passing second time means you combine confidence with carefulness.

    PS guess how many times I sat my test??

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    Any cyclists been in the new bike lanes yet?

    While the lanes themselves look wide enough, they've plonked stone bases on the inside of the white line,which reduces their width. Not sure I fancy them on a windy day, or when the gutter is full of slippy leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Any cyclists been in the new bike lanes yet?

    While the lanes themselves look wide enough, they've plonked stone bases on the inside of the white line,which reduces their width. Not sure I fancy them on a windy day, or when the gutter is full of slippy leaves.
    They're not great for overtaking.

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    Maybe it's because they're afraid of getting hit by another clown turning right from the main road who can't turn a corner. I often wonder if they just don't have a clue or if they do it deliberately?

    i see clowns in both directions. I agree with you, so many folk who cut the corner badly when turning right from the main road.

    itís as bad with the folk turning left from the main road, many go so wide theyíre well into the lane going in the opposite direction! And get humpty when the people waiting to turn left or right get annoyed at their car almost getting hit, just because other drivers canít judge speed and/or the angle of the corner

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    I know this will have been raised on this thread before, (maybe even by me), but why do some people not indicate? Iím genuinely interested, by the law of averages, there must be some people on here that donít do it. Will anyone own up to it and explain their reasoning for it? Iíd say laziness, but how hard is it to flick a lever that is 2 centimetres from your hand? I honestly canít think of any reasons behind it.

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    People who brake, brake, brake then indicate to let the world know where they intend to go. Rips my knitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby View Post
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    I know this will have been raised on this thread before, (maybe even by me), but why do some people not indicate? Iím genuinely interested, by the law of averages, there must be some people on here that donít do it. Will anyone own up to it and explain their reasoning for it? Iíd say laziness, but how hard is it to flick a lever that is 2 centimetres from your hand? I honestly canít think of any reasons behind it.
    Great question. Would love to know the answer to this as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Great question. Would love to know the answer to this as well.

    especially those people who think theyíre not needed at roundabouts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    especially those people who think theyíre not needed at roundabouts!
    One of my friends once told me I was so good at indicating at roundabouts

    Youíre supposed to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    especially those people who think theyíre not needed at roundabouts!
    Nearly as bad as those who donít know when to indicate on a roundabout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Nearly as bad as those who donít know when to indicate on a roundabout.

    , and those who have no idea of lane discipline on roundabouts

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    , and those who have no idea of lane discipline on roundabouts
    That is a belter. I have dented a few doors while on my bike due to fuds who don't understand the rounda bit of roundabout and think it's ok to go straight over, even when someone is inside them

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    Quote Originally Posted by weecounty hibby View Post
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    That is a belter. I have dented a few doors while on my bike due to fuds who don't understand the rounda bit of roundabout and think it's ok to go straight over, even when someone is inside them
    Maybe they just prefer the "bout" aspect.

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    Low emission zones, however well intended they may be.

    If you want to reduce the amount of cars in city centres then you need to make public transport affordable, reliable and efficient.

    Taking older cars out of the city centre impacts people who drive them, often because thatís what they can afford. If they commute in, forcing them out of where the work often is forcea them into unaffordable finance deals or not getting to work at all, public transport is truly no cheaper than driving from my experience (in fact, often more expensive).

    I get the feeling that LEZís are there because theyíre easiest, not most efficient at tackling pollution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    They're not great for overtaking.
    I rode one the other day. There's not a lot of room for error 😱

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    People who get to the pump at the petrol station, and sit in their car for ages!!!

    Got to the garage this morning, no empty pumps so waiting behind 2 cars sitting at the pumps in front of me. The farthest one, the guy is just starting to put the fuel, all good.

    The nearest car, can't see anyone, assume they're in the shop, after sitting for minutes, someone opens the driver's door, farts about with their mask, then the gloves!!! What have you been doing, and stop faffing about!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    People who get to the pump at the petrol station, and sit in their car for ages!!!

    Got to the garage this morning, no empty pumps so waiting behind 2 cars sitting at the pumps in front of me. The farthest one, the guy is just starting to put the fuel, all good.

    The nearest car, can't see anyone, assume they're in the shop, after sitting for minutes, someone opens the driver's door, farts about with their mask, then the gloves!!! What have you been doing, and stop faffing about!!!
    The people who queue at pumps when there is a vacant one, but not on the right side for their fuel cap. Having said that, I was able to go in and fill up this morning without having to wait, like everyone else.

    Agree with the point about people who take ages. The car in front of me was paying at the pump, I arrived, filled up, went into the kiosk and paid, and I was quicker than she was.
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    Probably said too many times before, but ignorant drivers!
    Cityfibre works on South Gyle Crescent. The road is down to virtually one lane in one direction adjacent to Gregg's. If I can, I'll stop and let larger vehicles/buses pass in the other direction, when I do I invariably get an acknowledgment from the drivers, but then behind them are all the ignoramuses who, I can only assume, maybe think I've just stopped in the middle of nowhere for no particular reason.
    Very few of them acknowledge me stopping when I could just plough through (their lane is obstructed). And without sounding sexist, it is quite often the ladies out there that fail to stick a thumb up or an open palm of thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    The people who queue at pumps when there is a vacant one, but not on the right side for their fuel cap. Having said that, I was able to go in and fill up this morning without having to wait, like everyone else.

    Agree with the point about people who take ages. The car in front of me was paying at the pump, I arrived, filled up, went into the kiosk and paid, and I was quicker than she was.
    I agree on the petrol pump one, the queue is created by folk only wanting to use the correct side for their car, daftness personified.

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    Probably been covered, but drivers not acknowledging you when you have given way. I've been driving on single track roads yesterday and today. Most people are good at a wave or lift a hand, but white van drivers seem to think it's OK to ignore you.
    WASH YOUR HANDS, WEAR A MASK, IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.

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    Drivers who donít fully go into the turning lane and hang over into the outside lane. Thereís plenty of room for you get your vehicle fully in there, so do it!

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