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    A steady cruising speed is the prescribed way to drive on a motorway.

    Here's one definition of cruising speed (Collins dictionary):

    cruising speed
    in British English
    (ˈkruːzɪŋ spiːd IPA Pronunciation Guide )
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    the speed at which a ship, car, or aircraft travels most efficiently
    eg My car has a motorway cruising speed of 60mph
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    Some cars I think travel most efficiently at less than 60 (56 used to be quoted). 56-60 is I grant you a long away above 40, but the idea that people should be aiming to drive on motorways at 70 all the time is bonkers.
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    Can't believe people are trying to arguing this point. engines efficiency ��
    "Effcient" dictionary definition :

    (of a system or machine) achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.


    Travelling at 55 might be more fuel/energy resourceful, but it misses out the productivity gains of travelling at a higher speed. There is a balance to be struck.


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    "Effcient" dictionary definition :

    (of a system or machine) achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.


    Travelling at 55 might be more fuel/energy resourceful, but it misses out the productivity gains of travelling at a higher speed. There is a balance to be struck.
    The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.
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    So you can cruise bellow 70, but you will get pulled and can be fined if driving to slow on the motorway. Is that the consensus?

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    The Highway Code prescribes driving at a steady cruising speed on motorways. Is 70mph a steady cruising speed, or is it a speed enabling you to easily overtake people driving at a steady cruising speed? I'd say the latter, but opinions may differ. I don't think how late you might be for an away kick off, or how many widgets you might have to deliver that day, are factors in the Highway Code rules.
    70 can be a steady cruising speed. As can 55/60. I think both are fine generally, so we probably agree on that?

    Stairway 2 7's point that if you can't comfortably drive close to 70 in a car then you shouldn't be driving is completely valid. Hence driving tests.

    The most important part of the highway code though in relation to driving too slow were the three general points I listed above.

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    Same car or loads of different vehicles?

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    Coming back from Glasgow today at tea time, on the city by-pass. In the right hand lane doing about 70-75 in a steady queue of cars passing slower moving vans, lorries and cars. (No its not about THAT debate!)

    Leaving a reasonable amount of space to the car in front. Was tailgated by a black Audi trying to bully me into letting him past to gain 10 yards. A tiny gap in the left hand lane appeared, he under passed me. When he reached his exit and slowed a little, he finished about 20 yards ahead of where he would have been had he stayed in our lane.

    Hope he ran out of fuel with the extra he had used!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACLeith View Post
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    Coming back from Glasgow today at tea time, on the city by-pass. In the right hand lane doing about 70-75 in a steady queue of cars passing slower moving vans, lorries and cars. (No its not about THAT debate!)

    Leaving a reasonable amount of space to the car in front. Was tailgated by a black Audi trying to bully me into letting him past to gain 10 yards. A tiny gap in the left hand lane appeared, he under passed me. When he reached his exit and slowed a little, he finished about 20 yards ahead of where he would have been had he stayed in our lane.

    Hope he ran out of fuel with the extra he had used!
    My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby View Post
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    My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.
    As a truck driver this is a real annoyance. Here it's the responsibility of the driver behind to ensure the safe breaking distance is adhered to. This means if someone has overtaken me with 1kph more speed moves back into the inside lane, then I have to brake to reestablish the minimum distance.

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    Tesco are ripping the piss now, 192.9 a litre of petrol in Tesco at Duloch in Dunfermline, BP garage down the road in Dalgety Bay is only 186.9 and Sainsburys at Gorgie is 185.9.
    The diesel is 199.9. Scandalous
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    Quote Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby View Post
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    My experience of the bypass is that safe stopping distance doesn’t apply. Literally every time I try to leave space between myself and the car in front, someone from the other lane will move into it and I’ll be right up their backside.
    When I see that I generally speed up slightly. Still leaving a gap but not up the erse of the car in front. Those undertakers pretty much put me in the group who may need the other type.

    I'm always happy to proceed in the left hand lane but generally on the bypass larger vehicles misjudge the hills and try and overtake 1 mph faster than the vehicle they think they can out run creating a lot of the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    The diesel is 199.9. Scandalous

    Passed Tescos in Corstorphine near my folks earlier today, petrol there is 189.9. I've never understood how the same supermarkets can have different petrol prices. We are getting done here over the water for sure. The Shell garage on Halbeath road near EEP was cheaper than Tesco a few weeks back, no idea what it is now as I've not passed by for a while.
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    Passed Tescos in Corstorphine near my folks earlier today, petrol there is 189.9. I've never understood how the same supermarkets can have different petrol prices. We are getting done here over the water for sure. The Shell garage on Halbeath road near EEP was cheaper than Tesco a few weeks back, no idea what it is now as I've not passed by for a while.
    Tesco vary fuel prices depending on competition in a catchment area for each store. Asda used to have a standardised price for fuel throughout the UK regardless of store location, not sure if they still do that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    As a truck driver this is a real annoyance. Here it's the responsibility of the driver behind to ensure the safe breaking distance is adhered to. This means if someone has overtaken me with 1kph more speed moves back into the inside lane, then I have to brake to reestablish the minimum distance.

    There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

    I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

    I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

    I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

    I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately
    To ensure I leave plenty of room I always wait until I can see the whole front of the vehicle I've overtaken in my rearview mirror. If that leads to annoyance of anyone behind me that's their problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    To ensure I leave plenty of room I always wait until I can see the whole front of the vehicle I've overtaken in my rearview mirror. If that leads to annoyance of anyone behind me that's their problem.

    Yep, that's definitely a good approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    There are quite a lot of people that drive too close to the car in front in the UK, but I actually found it much worse in Germany, especially on the parts of the Autobahn that have no speed limit.

    I'd overtake somebody at about 140kph and suddenly have some Arschloch appear two metres behind me, flashing his lights to tell me to pull into the inside lane.

    I always try to pull back in at a reasonably safe distance from the vehicle I've overtaken but that would just p1ss off the Wannabe Schumachers even more. I'd often see them going into meltdown mode in my rear-view mirror, just cos I refused to pullover immediately
    That used to really grip my **** over here but for some reason it's nowhere near as common as it used to be. I'm guessing that, now you can make online reports to the police has made people think twice about idiotic driving behaviour.

    The increase in anti collision systems in vehicles will also probably have played a part too, if you get too close to the vehicle in front most of them set off an alarm sequence similar to the USS Enterprise's red alert and others will actually initiate an emergency brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    That used to really grip my **** over here but for some reason it's nowhere near as common as it used to be. I'm guessing that, now you can make online reports to the police has made people think twice about idiotic driving behaviour.

    The increase in anti collision systems in vehicles will also probably have played a part too, if you get too close to the vehicle in front most of them set off an alarm sequence similar to the USS Enterprise's red alert and others will actually initiate an emergency brake.

    Delighted to hear that.


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