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    Driving Pet Peeves

    At the request of Alfiembra, here's the Driving Pet Peeve thread for frustrated motorists.

    So, to kick it off.......
    When you are just about to get into your car in a car park some Dumbo decides to draw in tight alongside your driver's door despite there being empty spaces everywhere around.

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    People who bog the middle lane on motorways despite there being no traffic in the left lane.

    Not only is that a peeve, it's dangerous and illegal.
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    People who don't indicate at roundabouts. The whole system of roundabouts relies heavily on being aware of other drivers intentions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    People who don't indicate at roundabouts. The whole system of roundabouts relies heavily on being aware of other drivers intentions.
    Drivers at Comely Bank roundabout who approach in the left hand lane then proceed to the 3rd exit without indicating. How there are not more accidents there is a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    People who don't indicate at roundabouts. The whole system of roundabouts relies heavily on being aware of other drivers intentions.
    It's probably Germans. Over here you only indicate when you want to leave the roundabout.

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    It's probably Germans. Over here you only indicate when you want to leave the roundabout.
    A lot of people I seem to encounter here don't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    People who don't indicate at roundabouts. The whole system of roundabouts relies heavily on being aware of other drivers intentions.
    Agreed, and also people who don't get into the correct lane at roundabouts. I am fed up on idiots lining up in the right hand lane to go straight on (typically second exit). Unless its specifically marked to use the right lane for straight ahead then it should always be left lane on entrance to roundabout.

    However, the Bankton junction off the A1 is one instance where it is marked right hand lane for straight ahead, left lane is Tranent only. The number of morons who go into the left lane to go straight ahead (second exit) is incredible. They let you know about it if you "cut them off" too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    People who don't indicate at roundabouts. The whole system of roundabouts relies heavily on being aware of other drivers intentions.
    Add in people who don't know how to indicate at roundabouts. People indicating right to go straight on drives my nut in. If there are 4 exits on a roundabout you're either going left, right or straight on and can indicate as such.

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    People who drive right up your arse when you’re overtaking on a dual carriageway - where do they expect you to go?

    bus drivers who leave the back end of the bus protruding into the road. It’s partially blocking the lane, and means the bus driver has less visibility when they want to move off.

    peope who drive in snow in the same way they drive on a clear dry day, and don’t adjust their driving to the conditions.

    drivers (usually large German cars) who’s ego can’t handle being overtaken by a smaller car (even though they’re going slow), so race past you to demonstrate that their car is superior, usually only for you to re-overtake them a few miles later as they’ve slowed down again.

    totally agree about the lack of lane discipline/understanding at roundabouts, and the lack of indicating there.

    people who fling their car into parking spaces and walk away, leaving the car at near 45 degree angles to the straight lines painted in to make it easier for you.

    when you’re waiting to pull out at a junction, and other drivers accelerate so you’ll need to wait until they’ve passed, even though they are often not going in the same direction, so what do you have to gain?

    people who scrape the only drivers side of the windscreen, then drive off.

    people who think by putting their hazards on after just stopping in the road makes it all fine, and no one behind them should get annoyed about being held up (caveat is if they have a genuine issue).

    people travelling on a slip road who think they have right of way, and expect the main road user already there to make room for them, even when it’s not safe to do so - people joining the M8 from newbridge heading into Edinburgh are exponents of this on a frequent basis.

    Equally, people who make no effort (or occasionally go out their way to make it harder) to help create space as someone is joining a road from a slip road. Surely it’s safer to move out, or back off slightly and help another car to safely join the lane/road than be awkward and risk a crash? Joinging the M8 at Livingston heading to Edinburgh is bad for this.

    Passengers who are supposed to be providing directions who wait until you’re on top of the junction you need to take before saying ‘eh, we’re supposed to be going that way Ffs’.

    when driving along a motorway/dual carriageway, you slowly catch up to a long(ish) line of vehicles in the inside lane, over a period of 2-3 miles, and just as you get to them, the rear most vehicle decides that now is the exact time to move out and try to overtake the rest of the column of traffic, even though they had no interest until you caught up. It happens so often it’s untrue
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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    drivers (usually large German cars) whoís ego canít handle being overtaken by a smaller car (even though theyíre going slow), so race past you to demonstrate that their car is superior, usually only for you to re-overtake them a few miles later as theyíve slowed down again.
    Conversely, drivers who, on seeing you have a fast car, suddenly turn into Lewis Hamilton and want to blow you off the road with their raw, 1.4 litres of power, only to splutter and run out of steam half a mile down the road as you smoothly cruise past them, using a fraction of the fuel that they wasted in order to get their ultimately disappointing cheapy.

    This is often the behaviour of boy racers in their hot hatches, but I've seen middle aged men in Vauxhall Astras and Ford Foucuses behave similarly.

    I changed from BMW to a Mazda CX5 a few years ago and the difference in the way people behave towards those vehicles is remarkable. People would let you out in jams when I was in the CX5, much less so in the Beemer. I bought another BMW in May, a 435D, and it's happening again. People want to race and overtake, and often, even if the obstruction is on their side of the road, they will force their way through, making me wait.

    It's not just drivers of German cars that have egos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Conversely, drivers who, on seeing you have a fast car, suddenly turn into Lewis Hamilton and want to blow you off the road with their raw, 1.4 litres of power, only to splutter and run out of steam half a mile down the road as you smoothly cruise past them, using a fraction of the fuel that they wasted in order to get their ultimately disappointing cheapy.

    This is often the behaviour of boy racers in their hot hatches, but I've seen middle aged men in Vauxhall Astras and Ford Foucuses behave similarly.

    I changed from BMW to a Mazda CX5 a few years ago and the difference in the way people behave towards those vehicles is remarkable. People would let you out in jams when I was in the CX5, much less so in the Beemer. I bought another BMW in May, a 435D, and it's happening again. People want to race and overtake, and often, even if the obstruction is on their side of the road, they will force their way through, making me wait.

    It's not just drivers of German cars that have egos.

    I agree mate. I was only referring to those drivers I described, not all drivers of large German cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    Add in people who don't know how to indicate at roundabouts. People indicating right to go straight on drives my nut in. If there are 4 exits on a roundabout you're either going left, right or straight on and can indicate as such.
    Definitely one of mine as well. Usually women... (Sorry)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    Add in people who don't know how to indicate at roundabouts. People indicating right to go straight on drives my nut in. If there are 4 exits on a roundabout you're either going left, right or straight on and can indicate as such.
    As I said on the PPIV thread some time ago, people who come to an empty roundabout and stop. It's a YIELD, ffs. Apologies for saying this but I find women are the worst for this. Absolutely does my nut in.

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    People who think sitting at traffic lights is an ideal opportunity to read/send messages on their phone and are inevitably still sat there 10 seconds after the lights have changed.

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    People who don't acknowledge that you've stopped to let them through.
    A wee wave or a flash of headlights would suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    People who don't acknowledge that you've stopped to let them through.
    A wee wave or a flash of headlights would suffice.
    Grrrr that one gets me too, also if you are already passing a long line of parked car and the numpty coming towards you has only one parked car on his side of the road still pulls out into your path and thinks you should be giving way.

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    Idiots who carry out dangerous overtaking manoeuvres on single lane roads. I drive on the A68 and A7 regularly and some of these clowns are risking their own and others lives, overtaking with blind corners and blind summits coming up. Madness.

    People who drive in poor visibility with no side lights on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Idiots who carry out dangerous overtaking manoeuvres on single lane roads. I drive on the A68 and A7 regularly and some of these clowns are risking their own and others lives, overtaking with blind corners and blind summits coming up. Madness.

    People who drive in poor visibility with no side lights on.
    Likewise. There's only two safe overtaking stretches at speed between Gala and Middleton but it doesn't stop dafties playing the odds and overtaking on blind corners. It's no wonder there are regular crashes and two or three fatalities a year. The risk-takers seem to be worse northbound IMO.

    I always used to think the 68 was safer but despite being straighter and having more obvious overtaking spots, it still seems to generate its share of idiots. Between the Tynehead road and Soutra seems to be the worst, both directions. Southbound more so because there are two imminent overtaking lanes but it doesn't stop folk overtaking unnecessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Idiots who carry out dangerous overtaking manoeuvres on single lane roads. I drive on the A68 and A7 regularly and some of these clowns are risking their own and others lives, overtaking with blind corners and blind summits coming up. Madness.

    People who drive in poor visibility with no side lights on.
    Iíve often wondered if Iím an over cautious driver as I can never get my head round the amount of people that over take on the A7 at dangerous spots. DHL delivery vans (and other similar companies) are especially bad for that on that road Iíve noticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooky View Post
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    People who don't acknowledge that you've stopped to let them through.
    A wee wave or a flash of headlights would suffice.
    Weirdly,due to my work,I get to see some strange stuff.

    Women Will use their right hand to say"thank you".......You can't see it from behind,but they did thank you!

    Get them to put on the rear windscreen wiper and 90% of the ladies look behind them,90% of the gentlemen look at the rear view mirror.......not a critique,just an observation !

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    Folk who block the right hand lane (right turn only) at the Corn Exchange junction, because, for some reason, they think they're too special to sit in the left hand (straight ahead) lane.

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    Lorries overtaking other lorries on the 2 lane M8, other 2 lane motorways are available!

    Ones doing 59 and the others doing 59 ... and a half!

    If the slower one slowed for just a minute to say 55 to let the other go by there wouldn't be queues of frustrated drivers!

    I think caravans need a thread of their own ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Lorries overtaking other lorries on the 2 lane M8, other 2 lane motorways are available!

    Ones doing 59 and the others doing 59 ... and a half!

    If the slower one slowed for just a minute to say 55 to let the other go by there wouldn't be queues of frustrated drivers!

    I think caravans need a thread of their own ;-)
    Somebody on the PPIV's thread called it "elephant racing". Describes it perfectly and made me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Lorries overtaking other lorries on the 2 lane M8, other 2 lane motorways are available!

    Ones doing 59 and the others doing 59 ... and a half!

    If the slower one slowed for just a minute to say 55 to let the other go by there wouldn't be queues of frustrated drivers!

    I think caravans need a thread of their own ;-)
    The scourge of the A11, that. It can take the 3 miles to overtake and reduce the whole road to 60mph in the process.

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    People who drive about with their hazards on as if it excuses any bizarre manoeuvre.

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    Not really in the spirit but the junction of the A406 with the M11 comes into the fast lane. The A406 has a speed cam so your around 50MPH, the M11 is supposed to be 50mph as well but everyone picks up speed ahead of the change to 70mph. Makes it tricky to merge in between the speed merchants.

    Thereís a junction like that on the M8 around Charing Cross as well but with added poor visibility.

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    People who drive about with their hazards on as if it excuses any bizarre manoeuvre.
    I was waiting for a bus when this van driver pulled into the lay-by at the bus stop taking the whole thing up and facing the wrong way into the bargain. He then proceeded to make his crucial phone call.
    When the bus pulled up to the stop it couldnít get in so the driver signalled to the van to move. The van driver apologised and made things ok by sticking his hazards on and continuing the conversation.

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    Annoys me when someone is letting you out but they donít bother to tell you.

    They sort of slow down a wee bit but not quite enough to make it obvious.

    Iím sure this is where I get told Iím in the wrong and people who flash and make hand signals are acting dangerously but I still find it annoying.

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    Those who religiously stick to the 20mph in Edinburgh when there is nobody else on the road, other than me behind them.

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    When you are driving along a road and can see from your mirrors there is no one behind you and a car wheel spins out a side street to cut in front of you and you often have to brake.

    Just wait you dicks.

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