Their Goal

**Real Emerald** · 21-01-2018 10:17 PM

It was a tight game in bad conditions on a terrible pitch. We didn’t play well and on balance probably deserved nothing from the game but the breaks they continually seem to get against us are unreal.

Last game we hit the underside of the bar, ball hits the ground behind the goal line, spins out and we are denied a perfectly good goal. Today we block a header on the line, ball goes away from the goal and without anyone else touching it spins back over the line to about the exact same spot where our non goal landed. We also had McGinn on his arse unable to clear it. Someday these breaks will go our way.

**green is good** · 21-01-2018 10:20 PM

The amount of luck they seem to carry in the derby is just insane.

***BS44*** · 21-01-2018 10:20 PM

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It was a tight game in bad conditions on a terrible pitch. We didn’t play well and on balance probably deserved nothing from the game but the breaks they continually seem to get against us are unreal.

Last game we hit the underside of the bar, ball hits the ground behind the goal line, spins out and we are denied a perfectly good goal. Today we block a header on the line, ball goes away from the goal and without anyone else touching it spins back over the line to about the exact same spot where our non goal landed. We also had McGinn on his arse unable to clear it. Someday these breaks will go our way.

Pitch was fine, a little greasy but otherwise okay.

Remember that two teams played on the terrible pitch, it's not and can't be a excuse for that shambles today

**stonewaller1875** · 21-01-2018 10:22 PM

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Pitch was fine, a little greasy but otherwise okay.

Remember that two teams played on the terrible pitch

They play on it week in week out its suits their hoofball not our football

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***Hermit Crab*** · 21-01-2018 10:33 PM

They scored, we never, in fact we never looked like scoring, we can have no complaints. Got what we deserved, hee haw!!

***Heisenberg*** · 21-01-2018 10:35 PM

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They scored, we never, i fact we never looked like scoring, we can have no complaints. Got what we deserved, hee haw!!

We did look like scoring on a couple of occasions, unfortunately those chances fell to Boyle.

**gaz1875** · 21-01-2018 10:35 PM

Bad luck and even worse defending.

***Hermit Crab*** · 21-01-2018 10:37 PM

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We did look like scoring on a couple of occasions, unfortunately those chances fell to Boyle.

Powederpuff upfront!

***lapsedhibee*** · 21-01-2018 10:37 PM

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We did look like scoring on a couple of occasions, unfortunately those chances fell to Boyle.

One of which he struck excellently and was very well saved.

***Hermit Crab*** · 21-01-2018 10:44 PM

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One of which he struck excellently and was very well saved.

One forced save in 90 minutes! Laughable!

***BS44*** · 21-01-2018 10:52 PM

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They play on it week in week out its suits their hoofball not our football

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Horses for courses

We played the long ball much more than that lot today

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 21-01-2018 11:13 PM

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Horses for courses

We played the long ball much more than that lot today

because we simply had to

***wookie70*** · 21-01-2018 11:15 PM

Just watched the goal on Hibs TV.

Berra has his hands all over the back of Hanlon. What was our plan at that corner. Murray totally leaves Naismith to wander into a goal scoring position, McGeogh yet again ball watches and moves away from Cowie who ends up scoring, McGinn isn't marking at any point and runs back to get on the near post thereby playing the scorer and Naismith onside and making it difficult to defend the post.

Our defending is absolutely brutal at times and Dylan really lets himself down quite often not tracking back and now ball watching. Even after all that I have no idea how Rocky or McGinn managed to allow the ball to cross the line. If McGinn had simply marked the near post that was never going to be a goal.

I think we would get more wins if we just concentrated on doing the basics right. We are simply a mess when it comes to defending and attacking set pieces.

***BS44*** · 21-01-2018 11:19 PM

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because we simply had to

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Okay, why?

Don't blame the pitch

**truehibernian** · 21-01-2018 11:25 PM

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Just watched the goal on Hibs TV.

Berra has his hands all over the back of Hanlon. What was our plan at that corner. Murray totally leaves Naismith to wander into a goal scoring position, McGeogh yet again ball watches and moves away from Cowie who ends up scoring, McGinn isn't marking at any point and runs back to get on the near post thereby playing the scorer and Naismith onside and making it difficult to defend the post.

Our defending is absolutely brutal at times and Dylan really lets himself down quite often not tracking back and now ball watching. Even after all that I have no idea how Rocky or McGinn managed to allow the ball to cross the line. If McGinn had simply marked the near post that was never going to be a goal.

I think we would get more wins if we just concentrated on doing the basics right. We are simply a mess when it comes to defending and attacking set pieces.

I'm old school, have players hugging each post, ball is cleared. To be fair we usually do have at least Lewy on a post.

We lost by a set piece - my disappointment is we don't work keepers or have the same luck from the multitude of corners we have. Needs addressed and we need to be more physical at corners - and take McGinn off them

**eastcoasthibby** · 21-01-2018 11:27 PM

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They scored, we never, in fact we never looked like scoring, we can have no complaints. Got what we deserved, hee haw!!

In quite a few games recently we have created very little and not taking good chances when they do appear is a massive.problem ...hope MCLaren makes a difference ..if not we are going into the bottom 6 !!

***BS44*** · 21-01-2018 11:36 PM

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I'm old school, have players hugging each post, ball is cleared. To be fair we usually do have at least Lewy on a post.

We lost by a set piece - my disappointment is we don't work keepers or have the same luck from the multitude of corners we have. Needs addressed and we need to be more physical at corners - and take McGinn off them

We only managed one corner today.

Set pieces can be crucial in games where teams are pretty much as good or as bad as each other. That lot's corners and free kicks were much better than ours today, but just about everyone we've played this this season have been more effective than us from corners/freekicks

**truehibernian** · 21-01-2018 11:44 PM

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We only managed one corner today.

Set pieces can be crucial in games where teams are pretty much as good or as bad as each other. That lot's corners and free kicks were much better than ours today, but just about everyone we've played this this season have been more effective than us from corners/freekicks

True bud, I was also meaning taking SJM off free kicks when I said set pieces. I've yet to see him really fizz one in and they generally are floated into the keeper's arms. The other thing I hate seeing is this kick off where he kicks it right, more often than not into touch. Keep possession and stay composed. We have yet to profit from any long hoof to the sidelines after a kick off. When you become that predictable, you become easy to defend against. Just keep the ball.

***wookie70*** · 21-01-2018 11:59 PM

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True bud, I was also meaning taking SJM off free kicks when I said set pieces. I've yet to see him really fizz one in and they generally are floated into the keeper's arms. The other thing I hate seeing is this kick off where he kicks it right, more often than not into touch. Keep possession and stay composed. We have yet to profit from any long hoof to the sidelines after a kick off. When you become that predictable, you become easy to defend against. Just keep the ball.

I seem to remember is getting a throw in once from Korea. I expect SJM under hit it

***BS44*** · 22-01-2018 12:01 AM

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True bud, I was also meaning taking SJM off free kicks when I said set pieces. I've yet to see him really fizz one in and they generally are floated into the keeper's arms. The other thing I hate seeing is this kick off where he kicks it right, more often than not into touch. Keep possession and stay composed. We have yet to profit from any long hoof to the sidelines after a kick off. When you become that predictable, you become easy to defend against. Just keep the ball.

The first five minutes of the second half was a absolute shambles from Hibs today, and it all started from McGinn taking kick-off and punting it directly out the park, if that's our tactic when taking centre at least do it properly and punt it out somewhere near the corner flag and not as - as today - somewhere between the halfway line and in line with their penalty box.

McGinn did fizz in the corner which led upto Hnalon's equaliser a couple of year ago at Tynecastle. The rest as they say is history

**ozwoody** · 22-01-2018 12:16 AM

My concern is that when Berra headed the ball towards goal, there were 2 hearts players in the 6 yard box unmarked waiting for the knockdown.tracking of those runners and ball watching is defending 101.

***JimBHibees*** · 22-01-2018 06:04 AM

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Pitch was fine, a little greasy but otherwise okay.

Remember that two teams played on the terrible pitch, it's not and can't be a excuse for that shambles today

Pitch was awful players constantly slipping on it. They haven't had a game on it for about a month why was it so bad.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 22-01-2018 06:10 AM

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because we simply had to

How did they manage to knock it about then?

***Jones28*** · 22-01-2018 06:28 AM

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They play on it week in week out its suits their hoofball not our football

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Tbf I don't think anyone can describe what we played today as football.

**MB62** · 22-01-2018 08:55 AM

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How did they manage to knock it about then?

Did they?

Two poor teams playing on a poor surface in poor conditions. The less worst team won but nothing to get excited about on either side.

**KWJ** · 22-01-2018 10:28 AM

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Just watched the goal on Hibs TV.

Berra has his hands all over the back of Hanlon. What was our plan at that corner. Murray totally leaves Naismith to wander into a goal scoring position, McGeogh yet again ball watches and moves away from Cowie who ends up scoring, McGinn isn't marking at any point and runs back to get on the near post thereby playing the scorer and Naismith onside and making it difficult to defend the post.

Our defending is absolutely brutal at times and Dylan really lets himself down quite often not tracking back and now ball watching. Even after all that I have no idea how Rocky or McGinn managed to allow the ball to cross the line. If McGinn had simply marked the near post that was never going to be a goal.

I think we would get more wins if we just concentrated on doing the basics right. We are simply a mess when it comes to defending and attacking set pieces.

This. I don't really think it was a foul by Berra, we'd be raging if it went the other way. He just got up above Hanlon. What's everyone else doing though - shocking, schoolboy stuff.

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**SeanWilson** · 22-01-2018 10:31 AM

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This. I don't really think it was a foul by Berra, we'd be raging if it went the other way. He just got up above Hanlon. What's everyone else doing though - shocking, schoolboy stuff.

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Absolutely criminal to have two opposition players on the 6 yard line with no one on them 😱 I disagree re McGinn - he's the only one doing his job.

**broondog** · 22-01-2018 10:38 AM

said it many times before but they are the luckiest team on the planet both on and off the field. You´ve got to think it will swing our way eventually. That´s twice in recent seasons we have scored legitimate goals against them that haven´t counted! both of those decisions have lost us 4 points, disgrace!

***Colr*** · 22-01-2018 10:52 AM

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Pitch was fine, a little greasy but otherwise okay.

Remember that two teams played on the terrible pitch, it's not and can't be a excuse for that shambles today

Whe Wolves won the old English First Division, they would deliberately soak their pitch to tunr it into a mudbath before every home game. They were used to the attrocious conditions so it gave them an advantage.

We should never have got rid of the slope.