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    Hearts penalty?

    Heard a couple of that lot say they think they should have had a penalty. Apparently a Stevenson handball but the only thing I can think of was a header that was going wide clipped his arm when he was moving it out of the way?

    If that's what they're referring to then they're having a laugh, never a penalty in a million years. Anyone any the wiser?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Heard a couple of that lot say they think they should have had a penalty. Apparently a Stevenson handball but the only thing I can think of was a header that was going wide clipped his arm when he was moving it out of the way?

    If that's what they're referring to then they're having a laugh, never a penalty in a million years. Anyone any the wiser?

    It was handball but definitely not a penalty. He was moving his arm out of the way when it clipped him, completely unintentional.

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    Heard a couple of that lot say they think they should have had a penalty. Apparently a Stevenson handball but the only thing I can think of was a header that was going wide clipped his arm when he was moving it out of the way?

    If that's what they're referring to then they're having a laugh, never a penalty in a million years. Anyone any the wiser?
    Would have been extremely harsh but I've seen them given

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    I've seen those given for sure. TBH, there would have been a lynching had the ref given them the penalty after missing the 'goal'.

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    It was a penalty, IMHO. That was our own lucky moment last night.
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    Never a penalty

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    Never a pen in a million years, behave!

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    Ball was travelling at speed, took a delfection of Hanlon to change the direction and he tried to pull his arm away as opposed to moving towards the ball.

    Never a penalty and they are just using it as defelction because they, yet again in a derby, got away with one.
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    We'd have claimed under the same circumstances but its what fitba folk do.

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    We'd have claimed under the same circumstances but its what fitba folk do.
    Exactly. Seen them given but no chance it was deliberate. No pen is the correct decision.

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    we would have been screaming for that at the other end, think we were lucky to get away with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    We'd have claimed under the same circumstances but its what fitba folk do.
    I'd be screaming for it, as I thought Stevenson had time to avoid contact. Anyway, not given; that's what happens with penalty appeals.
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    There was another incident when there was a bit of a stramash when the ball was bobbing about with them trying to hit it goalward and us trying to clear it. As the ball went up in between Marv and bauben it hit both there arms about the same time. Bauben put his hand up trying to claim the penalty and the crowd shouted for it as well. It was neither a foul or a penalty IMO. Neither was Stevensons, but the home crowd were always going to shout for it.

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    Exactly. Seen them given but no chance it was deliberate. No pen is the correct decision.
    That's the problem with the two decisions; the pen is subjective and open to the ref's interpretation, the Hibs goal was objective and there for all to see. There's no doubt or debate about Hibs goal. Even if Hearts had been give the pen, they still would have had to score. They do not balance each out in any way - despite Levein trying to suggest that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    That's the problem with the two decisions; the pen is subjective and open to the ref's interpretation, the Hibs goal was objective and there for all to see. There's no doubt or debate about Hibs goal. Even if Hearts had been give the pen, they still would have had to score. They do not balance each out in any way - despite Levein trying to suggest that.
    Exactly. Sometimes you get the penalty; sometimes you don't. However, a legitimate goal is a legitimate goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    That's the problem with the two decisions; the pen is subjective and open to the ref's interpretation, the Hibs goal was objective and there for all to see. There's no doubt or debate about Hibs goal. Even if Hearts had been give the pen, they still would have had to score. They do not balance each out in any way - despite Levein trying to suggest that.
    Agree 100%. The other big difference is that the penalty claim was not for a tackle or a handball preventing an opportunity to score. It was an innocuous ball going away from goal with no Yam near it. Only in the mystical world of Harry Potter do the 2 cancel each other out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brog View Post
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    Agree 100%. The other big difference is that the penalty claim was not for a tackle or a handball preventing an opportunity to score. It was an innocuous ball going away from goal with no Yam near it. Only in the mystical world of Harry Potter do the 2 cancel each other out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Ball was travelling at speed, took a delfection of Hanlon to change the direction and he tried to pull his arm away as opposed to moving towards the ball.

    Never a penalty and they are just using it as defelction because they, yet again in a derby, got away with one.
    Absolutely. They got away with murder last night and fine well they know it. They should have had a red card and of course the ridiculously disallowed goal. Yet again a huge slice of luck goes their way in a derby. They really are the jammiest club on the planet. To even try to use that penalty claim to make out it evens everything up is ridiculous. It did hit his hand but it would have been very harsh to give, ball travelling at pace, and in close proximity, not a lot Stevenson could really do. Yes, i've seen them given before but that doesn't necessarily mean its the correct decision.

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    Straw clutching to a massive degree. Never a penalty, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    It was a penalty, IMHO. That was our own lucky moment last night.
    Never a penalty. Referees had one of those objectives at the start of the season where they make one rule clear of how it is going to be governed through the season. They advised that if a ball deflects/takes a sudden change of direction that it won’t be given. Last night the ball was crossed in and took a nick off a Hearts players head. That’s not a penalty.

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    They guy that took the free kick shouldn't ha ve been on the pitch

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    Would have been an absolute tragedy if that had been given as a pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by May2116 View Post
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    Never a penalty. Referees had one of those objectives at the start of the season where they make one rule clear of how it is going to be governed through the season. They advised that if a ball deflects/takes a sudden change of direction that it won’t be given. Last night the ball was crossed in and took a nick off a Hearts players head. That’s not a penalty.
    Then I defer to your superior knowledge, as I wasn't aware of that
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    Then I defer to your superior knowledge, as I wasn't aware of that
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.joe.co.uk/amp/sport/how-englands-lucy-bronze-managed-to-convince-referee-to-overturn-penalty-decision-135047

    I knew I had seen it somewhere, not in the context I had thought but during a pre tournament briefing from an official. Not sure if our referees do similar up here in regards to meeting with teams to share knowledge nd understanding.

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    They would have missed it anyway.

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    Probably not a penalty but we’d be complaining about it if we’d not been given it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs07p View Post
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    There was another incident when there was a bit of a stramash when the ball was bobbing about with them trying to hit it goalward and us trying to clear it. As the ball went up in between Marv and bauben it hit both there arms about the same time. Bauben put his hand up trying to claim the penalty and the crowd shouted for it as well. It was neither a foul or a penalty IMO. Neither was Stevensons, but the home crowd were always going to shout for it.

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    I saw that but it hit Baubens hand first then Marvs and as Bauben put his hand up to claim pen I am sure it hit his hand again. There is nothing else to say!!

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    Lot of people saying its not a pen and then a few (including me) saying it is a pen. Just goes to show hard a decision these things are at times. Would have been a right kick in the balls had they got it though.

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    Not even worthy of discussion on Sky after the match. It wasnt even mentioned in a match that needed any old **** mentioning because it was dire.. Potter never even mentioned it amd he loves anything to deflect from how pish they really are. It wasnt a penalty as the ref didnt give it. It was the correct decision..
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