Summer signings

[murray26]

We’re now half way through the season and seem to be heading for our 1st real challenging period( next 3 games are huge) what’s everyone’s opinions on our recruitment?? I’m not overly convinced..

Stokes hasn’t produced what he’s capable of so far.. had the odd glimpse but not enough for me.
Murray has done better than I thought but has only 6 SPL goals and seems to be toiling a bit now
Whittaker looks like he’s past it
Slivka has declined after early promise and his big pal is rumoured to be off
Swanson has offered us nothing
Ambrose I’ve been happy with and will have more good games than bad I think

Lennon and the board have to get January right or it could end up quite a disappointing season..

Am I being harsh..?

[MSK]

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We’re now half way through the season and seem to be heading for our 1st real challenging period( next 3 games are huge) what’s everyone’s opinions on our recruitment?? I’m not overly convinced..

Stokes hasn’t produced what he’s capable of so far.. had the odd glimpse but not enough for me.
Murray has done better than I thought but has only 6 SPL goals and seems to be toiling a bit now
Whittaker looks like he’s past it
Slivka has declined after early promise and his big pal is rumoured to be off
Swanson has offered us nothing
Ambrose I’ve been happy with and will have more good games than bad I think

Lennon and the board have to get January right or it could end up quite a disappointing season..

Am I being harsh..?

Swanson to be fair hasnt had a chance for one reason or another, if he can get himself fit then I think he could be a good addition, I know the strikers get a hard time but I would love more goals from midfield, we need everyone to contribute.

[kaimendhibs]

Oh for a Pat McGinley

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[MSK]

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Oh for a Pat McGinley

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Or finding another gem like Latapy

[kaimendhibs]

Although i believe if you put Slivka in centre mid you would see a very good player

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[madhatter]

Find Slivka's lack of game time strange. We sign a player from Juventus but don't play him...he has 19 caps as well.

[greenlex]

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Although i believe if you put Slivka in centre mid you would see a very good player

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Apart from that time at Firhill.

[Joe6-2]

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Find Slivka's lack of game time strange. We sign a player from Juventus but don't play him...he has 19 caps as well.

I find this odd too, just don’t get it!

[wookie70]

I'll give scores on what I imagine players were bought for and guess as to how much they cost and what their future worth, current value is to the club along with length of contract. Not very scientific but Stokes playing ok is still better than Dagnell playing well. That doesn't make him a good signing if he cost 4 times a Dagnell though if you get my drift. Not exactly scientific but my thoughts on whether a player has been a positive signing.

Stokes - Not great so far and doesn't look like he will get any better to me. His record was for causing bother and that has already happened. - 5/10
Murray - I think he would have been bought for the squad and he has surpassed that and scored a good few goals. Good signing with potential - 7/10
Whittaker - Legs look like they are gone or he is very injury prone. We need our heads looked at giving him a 3 year deal regardless of him being a model pro - 4/10
Slivka - Played in a few positions in and out of team. Our manage obviously thinks he isn't very good - 5/10
Swanson - Has shown flashes but not been involved much due to various reasons. Not one for the future and we have already written off half a season. I have a feeling he will be a decent signing but currently - 4/10
Ambrose Along with Murray he is the only signing I have been pleased with. Can get caught out and takes too many risks but he has had a very good season despite going missing at the start. 7/10
Big Dave - The manager thinks he is honking judging by how many chances he has had and the fans haven't had a chance to find out - 2/10
Rocky- Inconsistent, capable of world class saves and Maybury League goalkeeping. Poor distribution and doesn't command his box. A very long deal for an inconsistent player. 5/10

My confidence that Lennon and his team of scouts will do better in the next couple of windows - 4/10

[kaimendhibs]

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Apart from that time at Firhill.

Fair enough, i was in New York so missed it

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[murray26]

Two quality signings required in January I think.. Liam Henderson and a striker ( no idea who) and hold on to Mcginn and I think we’ll get 4th and hopefully a cup run.

[MWHIBBIES]

After we beat Dundee for the 4th win in a row all our signings were great. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll all be happy again.

Pointless thread really, judging players with a negative result still fresh in the memory.

[greenlex]

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Fair enough, i was in New York so missed it

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I rate him but he was well off it. I really hoped he would shine. Again he wasn’t alone that day.

[Smartie]

We've had 4 questionable transfer windows in a row.

All of our best and most important players arrived before that, players who have arrived since that have either been moved on or have struggled to establish themselves.

I'm not sure exactly why that is.

[Thecat23]

Big Dave, Whitty, Swanson been a huge let down so far. Swanson though has had his reasons and can fully understand why his head wasn’t in the game. Now though if he gets the chance he must step up.

Slivka I’ve no idea if he’s good or not, needs more games under his belt! But overall can’t say any of the signings I thought would be good have stood out.

[MSK]

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After we beat Dundee for the 4th win in a row all our signings were great. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll all be happy again.

Pointless thread really, judging players with a negative result still fresh in the memory.

Its not a pointless thread, the team needs fresh faces so no harm in debating in who or what needs replaced. Our weaknesses have been exposed time & again so they need addressed, most teams will be looking at new recruitments come Jan, do you think we should just go with what we have ?

[Ozyhibby]

I think we have to go for younger player.
I would like us to go for Niall McGinn but his age worries me. It might be better to get creative with a deal for Lewis Morgan. I know Celtic are interested but we can offer him something they can’t which is first team football.
I think we have the 2nd oldest squad in the league and the number of injuries we are getting reflects that.
There are players such as Christie, Henderson, Morgan and Mallan who are not getting game time that we should be after.


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[MSK]

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I think we have to go for younger player.
I would like us to go for Niall McGinn but his age worries me. It might be better to get creative with a deal for Lewis Morgan. I know Celtic are interested but we can offer him something they can’t which is first team football.
I think we have the 2nd oldest squad in the league and the number of injuries we are getting reflects that.
There are players such as Christie, Henderson, Morgan and Mallan who are not getting game time that we should be after.


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Christie & Morgan play almost every week, Christie will be going back to celtic after his loan at sheep so prob no chance we could afford him

[Ozyhibby]

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Christie & Morgan play almost every week, Christie will be going back to celtic after his loan at sheep so prob no chance we could afford him

It doesn’t look like Christie has a Celtic future though and obviously Morgan is playing just now but will be on the move soon anyway. Just because other teams can offer more does not mean we can’t be an attractive destination for a young player.


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[murray26]

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I think we have to go for younger player.
I would like us to go for Niall McGinn but his age worries me. It might be better to get creative with a deal for Lewis Morgan. I know Celtic are interested but we can offer him something they can’t which is first team football.
I think we have the 2nd oldest squad in the league and the number of injuries we are getting reflects that.
There are players such as Christie, Henderson, Morgan and Mallan who are not getting game time that we should be after.


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This is where I am.. definitely need a couple of young hungry players to improve things.. still loads to play for this season but so far recruitment has worried me.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Its not a pointless thread, the team needs fresh faces so no harm in debating in who or what needs replaced. Our weaknesses have been exposed time & again so they need addressed, most teams will be looking at new recruitments come Jan, do you think we should just go with what we have ?

Our weaknesses haven't really been exposed time and time again. 3/4 weeks ago we were cruising. We've hit some bad form, its up to the players and manager to fix that. When everyone is on form we're just fine, its getting back to that we need to focus on.

I'm not saying we should go with that we have, I'm saying we shouldn't start judging players based purely on poor performances. Not 1 of these players have been poor all season. All played a part in positive performances.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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After we beat Dundee for the 4th win in a row all our signings were great. Hopefully in a few weeks we'll all be happy again.

Pointless thread really, judging players with a negative result still fresh in the memory.

To be honest I posted almost exactly the same opinion as the OP on another thread before the Aberdeen game, so I wouldn't say his post is a knee jerk reaction to a terrible result and performance ... after all, most of the players he mentions hardly kicked a ball in that game and haven't all season and that's the problem here .... we have a relatively thin squad where most of the players are under no pressure to perform consistently because the players they are keeping out don't appear to be rated by the manager.

Mateluvicius ....... should be licking his lips at the poor to average scoring form of Stokes and Murray, but Oli Shaw is preferred or NL plays one up front.

Slivka ...... Bartley is a one dimensional player and offers nothing in the opponents half and when you watch McGinn and McGeouch play for the most part they are picking up the ball between our box and half way line and not making the driving runs you would hope for ... Slivka has shown he can run with the ball, but NL just wont play him.

Whittaker ..... Looks well off the pace and isn't any better at defending than he was in his first spell here ... only Gray's injury problems are keeping him on the first team radar IMO ... 3 years is beginning to look like an error of judgment.

Murray ..... If we can teach him that just running about is only half the game he could be a decent striker, still hope for him.

Barker .... Looks like on his day he can be a real success, but I wonder if Man City will want to send him to a different league after this season.

Ambrose .... Has been more of a success than a failure, but I suppose we will have to accept he will do the odd daft thing ... the less the better though.

Swanson .... I appreciate he has had off field and injury problems, but as a contributor to the season he has to be deemed a total failure so far.

Stokes ..... A big act of faith by the manager and it isn't being repaid, not when he's at the stage of dropping a player he recently described as undroppable.

[The Modfather]

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Our weaknesses haven't really been exposed time and time again. 3/4 weeks ago we were cruising. We've hit some bad form, its up to the players and manager to fix that. When everyone is on form we're just fine, its getting back to that we need to focus on.

I'm not saying we should go with that we have, I'm saying we shouldn't start judging players based purely on poor performances. Not 1 of these players have been poor all season. All played a part in positive performances.

One of our weaknesses is that we don’t score anywhere near enough goals or put games to bed anything like as much as we should. That’s been the case for 3 or 4 seasons now. Nothing to do with a one off horror show yesterday.

[MSK]

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Our weaknesses haven't really been exposed time and time again. 3/4 weeks ago we were cruising. We've hit some bad form, its up to the players and manager to fix that. When everyone is on form we're just fine, its getting back to that we need to focus on.

I'm not saying we should go with that we have, I'm saying we shouldn't start judging players based purely on poor performances. Not 1 of these players have been poor all season. All played a part in positive performances.

Weaknesses have been exposed though & to improve & move up a notch we have to look at those positions, for the better, centre half, goalscoring midfielder, fox in a box striker or a Holt style striker. I totally agree the team so far have put in a few excellent performances but the squad lacks additional quality & no harm in getting in a few fresh faces

[wookie70]

Last season wasn't really any better but I suppose some were made for a specific purpose.

Grant Holt	Wigan	Free	01 Jul, 2016
Ross Laidlaw	Raith	Free	01 Jul, 2016
Brian Graham	Ross County	Unknown	19 Aug, 2016
Neal Eardley	Birmingham	Free	29 Sep, 2016
Kevin Dabrowski	Lech Poznan	Unknown	25 Jan, 2017
Scott Gallacher	St Mirren	Unknown	27 Jan, 2017

Here are Stubbs signings from the previous year. Lot's of players who are pretty forgettable, short term loans or youngsters but also a fair chunk of our current first 11 and most consistent players.

Mark Oxley	Hull	Free	01 Jul, 2015
Martin Boyle	Dundee	Signed	01 Jul, 2015
Daniel Carmichael	Queen of Sth	Signed	01 Jul, 2015
James Keatings	Hearts	Signed	01 Jul, 2015
Antonio Reguero	Ross County	Signed	06 Jul, 2015
Marvin Bartley	Leyton Orient	Free	17 Jul, 2015
John McGinn	St Mirren	Signed	31 Jul, 2015
Dylan McGeouch	Celtic	Signed	22 Aug, 2015
Darren McGregor	Rangers	Signed	25 Aug, 2015
Adam Eckersley	Hearts	Unknown	11 Sep, 2015
Callum Donaldson	Nairn County	Signed	25 Nov, 2015
Chris Dagnall	Leyton Orient	Free	23 Dec, 2015
Kevin Thomson	Dundee	Free	22 Jan, 2016
Otso Virtanen	Mariehamn	Free	24 Jan, 2016
Sean Mackie	Raith	Unknown	28 Feb, 2016

[emerald green]

When are Hibs going to sign a big reliable goalkeeper who commands his box and is good under high balls into the area?

Trouble is, you only get what you pay for.

[MWHIBBIES]

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When are Hibs going to sign a big reliable goalkeeper who commands his box and is good under high balls into the area?

Trouble is, you only get what you pay for.

Oh ffs, everyone is looking for that. There are very few keepers in the world that do that and even if we signed them you'd get posts like this after a bad performance.

Its nothing to do with getting what you pay for, Rocky is an international keeper who has had many brilliant games for us. Give him a break.

[FifeHibs]

Both Stokes and Murray have scored more league goals than Rooney, Stevie May and Griffiths this year.

Swanson was in the league team if the year last season.

Slivka requires more game time in a central role.

Whittaker is the best passing defender we have, some of his through balls for Boyle are far superior than what Gray or Stevenson can produce.

Rocky has his moments but in general is the best goalkeeper we have had in years.

[SideBurns]

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Oh ffs, everyone is looking for that. There are very few keepers in the world that do that and even if we signed them you'd get posts like this after a bad performance.

Its nothing to do with getting what you pay for, Rocky is an international keeper who has had many brilliant games for us. Give him a break.

Exactly. The best team in Scotland (still Celtic, despite today) have a keeper capable of brilliance but increasingly dodgy and, frankly, past his best.

[Hi Heid Yin]

To date it's been a mostly exciting and satisfying season for us, with a sprinkle of highs and lows, elation and frustration.
Without question we are a quality side but prone to regular lapses in concentration at the back and failing to convert dominant possession and chances into goals.

Defence: we have quality individuals in each position, but a collective backline that all too regularly fails to keep clean sheets and is prone to individual clangers and poor decision-making. This, for me, is Neil Lennon's biggest worry - moulding a mean and ruthless backline.

Midfield: we are over subscribed in quality individuals, but the collective main failing is "not chipping in regularly with goals" and easing the pressure on our forwards.
John McGinn is a dynamo whose main failing is "not driving into the box consistently and having a pop" This aspect of his game is a frustration as he has it in his locker to be a regular "goal-scoring midfielder" . Assuming he goes in January, then I remain hopeful that Henderson arrives at his spiritual home and brings not only a similar dynamic as McGinn but "goals to boot" Slivka is a silky player, and Mcgeouch is arguably our best midfielder, but neither, as I keep emphasising, "chips-in" regularly.
Swanson scored a fair amount of goals as a St, Johnstone midfielder, but he has, for a variety of reasons well documented, not delivered for us this season. I am hopeful that we will see his return to the side in the 2nd half of the season and the "scoring/driving" midfielder he can be. He will be like a new signing if he can rediscover his St. Johnstone form.

Attack: Considering that Stokes is our marquee signing, his goals return from open play is poor, though other aspects of his game benefit the team. However, he carries the burden of expectation and it is "goals" that we expect and need from him on a regular basis. Regarding Murray, Boyle and Barker - 3 players whom I love to watch for their runs at defences, if these guys could supplement their mesmerising runs by "chipping-in" with goals, the pressure on Stokes, indeed the whole team, would be eased tremendously.
We simply don't have a poacher - a guy who is there for those tap ins or to convert half chances (ie Griffiths) Shaw is considered raw, inexperienced and "not ready" by some, but I personally would start to give him regular game time. He appears to have that uncanny knack of being in the right place at the right time, ie Riordan and O'Connor. Time will tell us if he is of their quality.

I'm not sure if a so-called "poacher" is out there and available in the transfer market, but what I would give to see "Griffiths" return to ER (albeit on loan).