Can anyone see any benefits Hibs have had from any short taken corners in fact there have been some balls ups from some. They must practice them at East Mains. But its not only Hibs I saw a few in the English Premiership yesterday and Rankers today so the coaches must seen something in a short taken corner
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03-12-2017 12:07 PM #1
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Short taken corners
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03-12-2017 12:08 PM #2
One of my biggest bug bears about Hibs just now. Hoping when Swanson is back that our overall set piece quality improves.
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03-12-2017 12:11 PM #3
Our long corners are usually even worse.
I have no idea what they practice during the week but if they do actually practice corners in training then we have a problem.
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03-12-2017 12:16 PM #4
It really has to drive our centre backs bonkers. Run the length of the park for adsutely no ball into the box. I’m not even going to mention the chances of us screwing it up and the opponent breaking in numbers with the defence still up the park. As has been said the delivery when we don’t take a short one in particular yesterday was abysmal. Come home Liam Son.
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03-12-2017 12:34 PM #8
Lennon has said in an interview that the reason we do short corners is because we don’t have anyone who can take a decent corner. Mcginn’s floaty balls in are easily dealt with.
Good a reason as any to get Henderson.
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03-12-2017 12:35 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-12-2017 01:25 PM #10
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I prefer short corners, ball can be whipped in from a better angle than just floating a ball into the box
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03-12-2017 01:37 PM #11
"I cheer for a corner, I don't know why, they rarely lead to a goal"
I remember a stat from last season's EPL that 2.7% of corners resulted in a goal. I imagine if you have a prior dislike of a particular type of corner, you'll remember those unsuccessful corners far more than you'll remember unsuccessful corners of your preferred style.
More illuminating would be the percentage of our short and long corners resulting in a goal. Although given the low numbers of goals involved, you might need an entire season's worth to get a respectable sample size.
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03-12-2017 01:40 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hardly any goals ever come from corners. It’s hardly surprising we’re trying different things.
Actually heard some morons booing at Killie when we took a short corner when we were 2 nil up.
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03-12-2017 02:14 PM #13
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It does my box in when we take a short corner. So i done a wee bit research into it and there is only a 0.03% chance of scoring from ANY type of corner (20,000 corners analysed English Prem). No specifics for long or short that i could find. Doesn't answer any questions but could be the nerdiest fact of the day!
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03-12-2017 02:38 PM #16
I heard an EPL manager talking about his team taking short corners earlier in the season, I cannae remember who it was though - he said its because the counter attack is such a weapon these days that a long ball into the box that's cleared can really cost you.
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03-12-2017 02:42 PM #17
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It was just a study over 20,000 corners in the EPL. I cant remember the season. It all depends how you look at the stats and what stats haha. 0.03% is for every attaking corner. So if we had 100 corners we would expect 3 goals...or 3% (very close to the 2.7% you mentioned per corner). So the stats are about the same its just how they are interpreted i guess. To be accurate we would need a study of our own corners over a season or at least 100. As geeky as i am over stats id rather watch the game than do maths. I think what we have both assertained from the stats is that there is a pretty low chance of scoring. Remember though some teams will score more than others so the 2.7/3.0% is an average. We may be better...we may be worse! Ah stats...dont you just love em!
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03-12-2017 02:50 PM #18
David Zitellis corners were absolute screamers. Think we scored a good few from them.
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03-12-2017 03:15 PM #19
I’m definitely not itk but my theory is that taking short corners draws 2 defenders out of the box, leaving more room/space for us to attack the ball when it comes into the box. It’s just so frustrating that a lot if the time we get closed down quickly and the ball, more often than not, never gets into the box. On that basis, you could argue short corners are a waste of a good opportunity based on our execution of them.
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03-12-2017 03:25 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's like anything in football, if it's a bit different it's wrong. The funny thing about corners is that people contradict themselves without even realising it.
If you have the ball out wide and two or three players play some neat passing while trying to find a route into the box and end up winning a corner they are applauded for trying to 'play football'. However from the resulting corner if the same players work a short one and try and work the ball into the box in the same they are slated for not just getting the ball into the box.
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03-12-2017 03:41 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-12-2017 04:03 PM #23
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Short corner worked a treat for West Ham just before half time there....
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03-12-2017 06:24 PM #24
I remember a game in 2016 where we scored two corners in 10 minutes. Anyone else??
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This nonsense of short corner and trying to take on the 3 players being dragged to the ball is most of the time a accident waiting to happen and leaves our CBs struggling to get back if the ball is lost.
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03-12-2017 06:52 PM #28
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Now that big Daz is back I think we may see more success from corners. He gets on the end of things but also makes space for others.
Last edited by CentreLine; 04-12-2017 at 12:23 AM.
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03-12-2017 08:28 PM #29
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I believe that less than one in 20 corners results in a goal - so maybe worth trying something different.
Certainly it can be a bit easier to plonk the ball on someone's head from say 20 yards rather than the 30-40 that a direct corner would usually mean - IF that is, the short corner actually results in a ball into the box which is a big IF.
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