Worst top flight side you've seen?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Okay, before anyone says Butcher's Hibs side (shudders) which sides would you say are contenders for the worst SPL/old Division One team you've seen?

As I kid, I remember a Hamilton Accies side of the late eighties (possibly 1988-89?) that was abysmal. My memory might be playing tricks on me, but I'm sure they only won a couple of games all season. Anyone remember that team?

What other truly awful sides has there been?

[theonlywayisup]

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Okay, before anyone says Butcher's Hibs side (shudders) which sides would you say are contenders for the worst SPL/old Division One team you've seen?

As I kid, I remember a Hamilton Accies side of the late eighties (possibly 1988-89?) that was abysmal. My memory might be playing tricks on me, but I'm sure they only won a couple of games all season. Anyone remember that team?

What other truly awful sides has there been?

Cathro's Hertz team

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Cathro's Hertz team

Garbage, but not the worst ever. Pains me to say it, but they would have beaten Butcher's Hibs.

[JJP]

Gretna. Didn’t they only pick up like 9 points one season?

[beensaidbefore]

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Okay, before anyone says Butcher's Hibs side (shudders) which sides would you say are contenders for the worst SPL/old Division One team you've seen?

As I kid, I remember a Hamilton Accies side of the late eighties (possibly 1988-89?) that was abysmal. My memory might be playing tricks on me, but I'm sure they only won a couple of games all season. Anyone remember that team?

What other truly awful sides has there been?

I can remember they were in the 1989 panini sticker book so might be a way to find their team line up. I can just about recall the whole Hibs team though from that book and recall that John Collins was the young player of the year, which featured one page with Paul McStay as player of the year and the same for the English did 1. Imagine us sharing a sticker book with epl now. Can't see it somehow.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Gretna. Didn’t they only pick up like 9 points one season?

Did they? After their financial collapse? I vaguely reminder their having a terrible time in the SPL, but can't remember exactly.

[lord bunberry]

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Gretna. Didn’t they only pick up like 9 points one season?

I think they had a points deduction.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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I can remember they were in the 1989 panini sticker book so might be a way to find their team line up. I can just about recall the whole Hibs team though from that book and recall that John Collins was the young player of the year, which featured one page with Paul McStay as player of the year and the same for the English did 1. Imagine us sharing a sticker book with epl now. Can't see it somehow.

I used to love the Panini books. Buying the packs (10p per pack) and the anticipation of opening them. The silver club crest and trophy badges shining like the golden ticket in a Wonka bar . Mind the world cup yins anaw? Swaps at school. Great memories.

[IlDiavola]

What about that Hertz team under that clown Malofeev?

[beensaidbefore]

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I used to love the Panini books. Buying the packs (10p per pack) and the anticipation of opening them. The silver club crest and trophy badges shining like the golden ticket in a Wonka bar . Mind the world cup yins anaw?

Good times. I remember the world cup ones wig the crap teams like Iran only getting half stickers with 2 faves on each. Maybe just made that up. I'm sure the 86 book may have combined Scots Prem,English div 1 and world cup,and orange cover iirc. Could be merging the two though🤔

Also, did you once get mints in beside the English stickers, I seem to remember that for some reason.

[WeeRussell]

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Garbage, but not the worst ever. Pains me to say it, but they would have beaten Butcher's Hibs.

That’s a close one.

[hibbytam]

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Did they? After their financial collapse? I vaguely reminder their having a terrible time in the SPL, but can't remember exactly.

Their wikipedia entry is a good reminder of their many problems that season, but it finishes on this particularly high note:

"They won their final SPL game, a home match against Hearts 1–0 with a goal from Gavin Skelton, which meant they finished the season with 13 points, narrowly avoiding setting a record low points total for the Scottish top-flight."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretna_F.C.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Good times. I remember the world cup ones wig the crap teams like Iran only getting half stickers with 2 faves on each. Maybe just made that up. I'm sure the 86 book may have combined Scots Prem,English div 1 and world cup,and orange cover iirc. Could be merging the two though🤔

Also, did you once get mints in beside the English stickers, I seem to remember that for some reason.

I'm sure the Scottish sides (or at least some of them) also only used to get half stickers for each player. I'm sure I remember the likes of Morton and Dumbarton getting the wee half sticker per player.

[Callum7]

The worst a team has ever down was in the 1896-97 season where Abercorn only picked up 3 points and a -67 goal difference.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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The worst a team has ever down was in the 1896-97 season where Abercorn only picked up 3 points and a -67 goal difference.

You didn't see them

[Callum7]

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You didn't see them

You don’t know my age.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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You don’t know my age.

I'm guessing you're under 130

[Callum7]

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I'm guessing you're under 130

136 actually. I was 15. We lost out on the league to hearts by 2 points that season. This was back when a win was only worth 2 points.

[Diclonius]

Gretna. Should never have been there in the first place.

Dundee in 2012-13 were pretty bad too.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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136 actually. I was 15. We lost out on the league to hearts by 2 points that season. This was back when a win was only worth 2 points.

There's no need to bring that up

[IlDiavola]

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I'm sure the Scottish sides (or at least some of them) also only used to get half stickers for each player. I'm sure I remember the likes of Morton and Dumbarton getting the wee half sticker per player.

Aye, but Ian Wallace and Andy Richie?

No wonder

[Sir David Gray]

The 2013/14 Hibs team from January-May would take some beating (pardon the pun).

It was frightening how bad we were for those last few months of the season.

[Firestarter]

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Gretna. Didn’t they only pick up like 9 points one season?

Don't know, but they still managed to gub hearts in their last ever game.

Answer for me is Dunfermline the year we can second bottom. Man they where pish. In fact they where worse under Stephen Kenny. Live where brutal when we hammered them 7-0 too.was lambert the manager? FreeIng cold midweek match.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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The 2013/14 Hibs team from January-May would take some beating (pardon the pun).

It was frightening how bad we were for those last few months of the season.

Yes, the run of form that saw us drop into the play off place was disgusting. We should never have been put in that position. My first ST was a child ticket in 1990, but, if Butcher had, by some miracle kept his job, I wouldn't have renewed. It would have been the last straw. It's still hard to believe it actually happened.

[beensaidbefore]

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I'm sure the Scottish sides (or at least some of them) also only used to get half stickers for each player. I'm sure I remember the likes of Morton and Dumbarton getting the wee half sticker per player.

I can't remember those teams but probably the case. I seem to recall Aberdeen managers being a half sticker with Alex Smith and Willie Miller? We're they ever joint managers of the sheep?

[givescotlandfreedom]

Gretna were honking but they took a few points off Hearts.

[Firestarter]

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Gretna were honking but they took a few points off Hearts.

Yantorno was amazing for them, got injured, career over. Very nice guy too. I think he scored against us at ER also. I was delighted when we signed him.

[iwasthere1972]

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The 2013/14 Hibs team from January-May would take some beating (pardon the pun).

It was frightening how bad we were for those last few months of the season.

To think I probably went to most of these games as well including an evening kick off up at Dingwall when we lost 1-0. We were shocking. Couldn't string two passes. We've come a long way in a few years

[Sir David Gray]

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To think I probably went to most of these games as well including an evening kick off up at Dingwall when we lost 1-0. We were shocking. Couldn't string two passes. We've come a long way in a few years

We are literally unrecognisable as a club both on and off the pitch to the team that went down.

The transformation has been outstanding.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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To think I probably went to most of these games as well including an evening kick off up at Dingwall when we lost 1-0. We were shocking. Couldn't string two passes. We've come a long way in a few years

Massive progress in a relatively short time and despite three years in the Championship. The Butcher months were an abomination.