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    Hamilton Accies

    http://www.hamiltonacciesfc.co.uk/club-statement-2/

    Hamilton Academical FC have been the target of an elaborate fraud resulting in the loss of a substantial sum of monies.

    The Police Service Scotland and our Bank are working closely with the club conducting a criminal investigation to pursue those individuals responsible.

    At this point it is imperative that we remain calm and work together as we go through one of the most difficult situations we have faced as a club.

    In the interim, the Directors intend to inject funds to meet the club’s ongoing obligations until the investigation is complete to ensure continuity.

    It is our intention to host a media briefing to go into more detail when the initial legal and banking investigations reveal the facts. This will allow us to give full disclosure of the event.

    No further comment will be made at this time as the Police investigation continues.

    Les Gray

    Chairman

    Wonder what's happened here?


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    Similar thing happened to Rangers when they payed 1.75 million for Joe Garner

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKev View Post
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    http://www.hamiltonacciesfc.co.uk/club-statement-2/

    Hamilton Academical FC have been the target of an elaborate fraud resulting in the loss of a substantial sum of monies.

    The Police Service Scotland and our Bank are working closely with the club conducting a criminal investigation to pursue those individuals responsible.

    At this point it is imperative that we remain calm and work together as we go through one of the most difficult situations we have faced as a club.

    In the interim, the Directors intend to inject funds to meet the club’s ongoing obligations until the investigation is complete to ensure continuity.

    It is our intention to host a media briefing to go into more detail when the initial legal and banking investigations reveal the facts. This will allow us to give full disclosure of the event.

    No further comment will be made at this time as the Police investigation continues.

    Les Gray

    Chairman

    Wonder what's happened here?
    There was a warning issues about these scams being used against football clubs recently.

    From memory, I think it related to incorrect bank details being provided for payment of legitimate costs.

    It wouldn't need to be a spectacular sum to cause a club like Hamilton (or most Scottish clubs) some real difficulties.

    Hope they get the cash back but they'll never catch the perpetrator.

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    What's actually happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
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    What's actually happened?
    They've not actually said yet but it must be quite embarrassing for Les Gray as I think he was once one of Scotland's top cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    They've not actually said yet but it must be quite embarrassing for Les Gray as I think he was once one of Scotland's top cops.
    Thanks. Wonder why they have felt the need to go public at this stage then and never knew that about Gray, very embarrassing.

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    Thanks. Wonder why they have felt the need to go public at this stage then and never knew that about Gray, very embarrassing.
    I may have been slavering (again!). Looks like this one is a different Les Gray.


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    Football clubs are pretty vulnerable to this kind of thing.

    Lots of money flows through clubs, lots of cash taken on match days.

    A few unscrupulous folk in certain positions and I'm sure fraud could quite easily happen (see the "Hearts Stand" thread for details about how easily a club can pocket £36k of charity money. I'm sure that this could quite easily happen the other way).

    It will be very interesting to hear the detail of this one.

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    Had a wee look on Hamilton fans forum to see if they had an idea’s about this. Only comment I can see is. The fans smelt a rat a while ago, club only took cash payments and no credit card payments.

    Looks like actual cash could have gone walkies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    I may have been slavering (again!). Looks like this one is a different Les Gray.

    Was this one in Mud..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    Was this one in Mud..?
    Naw ya daftie, he's deid......

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    Whatever has happened, it's a huge blow to a small club like Hamilton. Hopefully it doesn't lead to long term difficulties for them.
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    I think the plod should start by interviewing all recent visitors to the the Club , especially those with known desperation for cash and previous misdemeaners .

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41210013

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    Been scammed out of £750k seemingly 😮

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Been scammed out of £750k seemingly 😮
    Wow. If true, they'll be in desperate trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Similar thing happened to Rangers when they payed 1.75 million for Joe Garner
    😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    Been scammed out of £750k seemingly 😮

    I can't see Hamilton surviving that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Future17 View Post
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    There was a warning issues about these scams being used against football clubs recently.
    From memory, I think it related to incorrect bank details being provided for payment of legitimate costs.
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    Been scammed out of £750k seemingly 😮
    That would have to be some heavy legitimate costs.
    I can't see what costs they could have to pay amounting to that, unless it's over a period of time.

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    Been scammed out of £750k seemingly 😮
    STV confirmed - thought to be over £700k.

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    As annoying a club they've been recently, that is awful hopefully all Scottish Clubs/SFA themselves could bail them out given the circumstances if required/no other choices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spaceman View Post
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    As annoying a club they've been recently, that is awful hopefully all Scottish Clubs/SFA themselves could bail them out given the circumstances if required/no other choices?
    Annoying? I have a lot of respect for what they've done recently on what must be a very tight budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Annoying? I have a lot of respect for what they've done recently on what must be a very tight budget.
    As in relegating us? Beating us this season? That annoying. Obviously have respect for what they've done in proximity to the Old Firm, hence I hope Scottish Football bands together to support them if required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spaceman View Post
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    As in relegating us? Beating us this season? That annoying. Obviously have respect for what they've done in proximity to the Old Firm, hence I hope Scottish Football bands together to support them if required.
    Blaming Hamilton for our getting relegated is pushing it a bit IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Blaming Hamilton for our getting relegated is pushing it a bit IMO.
    Taking my comment far too literally.

    Anyways, wish them all the very best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Spaceman View Post
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    Taking my comment far too literally.

    Anyways, wish them all the very best.
    Fair dos. Me too.

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    Hard to see how they could be scammed out of £750k though.

    If it was drip, drip over a number of years then maybe - that would be bad enough, but it shouldn't threaten their existence.

    If it's all in one go, how on Earth did they have £750k kicking about for someone to get their hands on?

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    Same thing happened at my old work, about £80,000 was supposedly embezzled by our Accountant who completely disappeared and was never caught to my knowledge.

    As a new business it nearly killed us off, but we did find our feet eventually.

    New Banking makes it so easy for hardened criminals to fleece unsuspecting individuals, so I just hope they get their money back, and soon enough to stay afloat!!!

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    Not that I want this to happen, but if the worst does happen then one of our defeats is scrubbed from the record books !

    In fact I really hope that doesnt happen.

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    In a league that often bends over to help those that abuse other people's money and trust I hope Hamilton who seem to do it the right way can find a way to survive this and get help if they need it.

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    Maybe it’s not payments.It could be season ticket sales money put on deposit which turns out to be a Nigerian Prince type bank.

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