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    The Decline of Football in Milan

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41558125?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_match_ of_the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

    I though the above was an interesting article regarding the on and off field troubles of both Milan clubs in recent years.

    The issues with a shared stadium are interesting and should be good for thought to those who think it's a quick fix for some in Scotland. Also it shows that with continuing and ever more rapid commercialisation of football even some of the traditional giants are being left behind.


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    I thought they where both improving again?

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    I thought they where both improving again?
    They've both spent a lot of money. Inter are doing ok and may mount a bit of a challenge this season. Milan are 7th and have lost 3 of their 7 games so far.
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    Cool thanks PB, maybe I just keep seeing Milan scudding teams in the Europa.

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    They were in a great position with the shared stadium, not owning or maintaining it just renting from Local Council for their own games!

    It is done a lot on the Continent, but for whatever reason we think its a bad idea?

    The likes of Bayern Munich don't own where they play, but have a fantastic training facility that has a Hotel, Sports injuries clinic, indoor and outdoor pitches and it is used all week by the players who can stay overnight if they don't want to travel.

    Our biggest problem is East Mains is great, but our Stadium is left empty all week and we are using good money to maintain it for once or twice a week games?

    That money could be better used in bringing in better players and upgrading East Mains!!!

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    They were in a great position with the shared stadium, not owning or maintaining it just renting from Local Council for their own games!

    It is done a lot on the Continent, but for whatever reason we think its a bad idea?

    The likes of Bayern Munich don't own where they play, but have a fantastic training facility that has a Hotel, Sports injuries clinic, indoor and outdoor pitches and it is used all week by the players who can stay overnight if they don't want to travel.

    Our biggest problem is East Mains is great, but our Stadium is left empty all week and we are using good money to maintain it for once or twice a week games?

    That money could be better used in bringing in better players and upgrading East Mains!!!
    It's different if you're not just a football club, but a global brand. Clubs like ourselves need the stadium as it is (other than the training ground) our only valuable asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by where'stheslope View Post
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    They were in a great position with the shared stadium, not owning or maintaining it just renting from Local Council for their own games!

    It is done a lot on the Continent, but for whatever reason we think its a bad idea?

    The likes of Bayern Munich don't own where they play, but have a fantastic training facility that has a Hotel, Sports injuries clinic, indoor and outdoor pitches and it is used all week by the players who can stay overnight if they don't want to travel.

    Our biggest problem is East Mains is great, but our Stadium is left empty all week and we are using good money to maintain it for once or twice a week games?

    That money could be better used in bringing in better players and upgrading East Mains!!!
    Juventus have made amazing progress as a club in recent years due to owning their own stadium and all the perks that come with it.

    Shared, government owned stadiums that were being neglected and becoming run down are a big reason for the decline of Italian football in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Juventus have made amazing progress as a club in recent years due to owning their own stadium and all the perks that come with it.

    Shared, government owned stadiums that were being neglected and becoming run down are a big reason for the decline of Italian football in general.
    Yep, that's exactly the issue. Foreign investment has been late to Serie A and shared, government owned stadiums are one of the big factors of that, hence the new owners seeking new commercial opportunities and all looking for planning permission for development / new stadia.

    In saying that, a shared stadium can still work for the Milan clubs but they need to stay at San Siro, work closer together, keep the capacity at 80k and find a way to wrestle ownership to themseves or, at least, find a way to reduce the red tape and go to town on the substantial revenue opportunities available to them - San Siro and Milan are huge plus points for them, with "brands" that 99% of clubs can only dream about.

    Whatever they achieve on the pitch this season, and in the near future, I hope they retain and grow a core of Italian players through their teams - this 8 or 9 stranieri approach (especially Internazionale, living up to their name) is a joke and a big part of the reason the fans struggle to relate to and support the players on the pitch, never mind the effect it has on their excellent youth systems, the identity of the league and the paucity of options for the national team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Juventus have made amazing progress as a club in recent years due to owning their own stadium and all the perks that come with it.

    Shared, government owned stadiums that were being neglected and becoming run down are a big reason for the decline of Italian football in
    general.
    Yeh, its incredible to think that Juventus are the only club who own their own stadium, though there may be more since I read that. As for Milan and Italian football in general, the various cheating scandals and a hooligan problem a good bit worse than most of the 'big leagues' has undoubtedly contributed to their games decline ..... who wants to take the chance of being hit on the head with a Lambretta just for attending a football match

    My favourite club is Fiorentina, a decent sized club in European terms, but from what I've seen on the telly and images I've seen of it their ground looks an absolute hole that would embarrass an English league 1 club.

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