Captain during Famous Five Era

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Anyone able to give a definitive answer as to who captained the league championship winning teams of 1948, 1951 and 1952?

[G B Young]

Far from a definitive answer but I'd hazard a guess at Gordon Smith.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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Far from a definitive answer but I'd hazard a guess at Gordon Smith.

I've heard that but not seen anything that proves it.

[hibbybrian]

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Far from a definitive answer but I'd hazard a guess at Gordon Smith.

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1947-48 Captain was Davie Shaw then Gordon Smith up to 1954-55 when it was Bobby Combe

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

We sold Shaw to oldco soon after that and he preceded to boot Smith all over the shop when he played against us according to my late Dad.

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1947-48 Captain was Davie Shaw then Gordon Smith up to 1954-55 when it was Bobby Combe

That a definite?

[hibbybrian]

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We sold Shaw to oldco soon after that and he preceded to boot Smith all over the shop when he played against us according to my late Dad.

Davie left Hibs to join Aberdeen in 51/52, it was his brother Jock Shaw who played for the old rangers who did the kicking.

[Lago]

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We sold Shaw to oldco soon after that and he preceded to boot Smith all over the shop when he played against us according to my late Dad.

Your Dad confirms what my late Father in Law told me, exactly!

[Mick O'Rourke]

Davie Shaw did not play for Oldco
His brother, Jock "Tiger" Shaw did.

[hibbybrian]

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That a definite?

According to team photos of the Championship side

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We sold Shaw to oldco soon after that and he preceded to boot Smith all over the shop when he played against us according to my late Dad.

Sorry, your dad had got it wrong. He was probably thinking of Davie's brother Jock aka 'Tiger' Shaw who played for the Huns around the same time. The brothers came from Annathill, a tiny village (one street, around 200 inhabitants) in Lanarkshire. They played together for Scotland (Jock RB, Davie LB) against Switzerland in Scotland's first full international match after WW2; the only other time two brothers have played for Scotland in the same match was in 2005 - the Caldwells.

Davie (who my dad assured me was by far the classier player of the two brothers - Tiger he described as a 'knuckle-dragging thug') played for Hibs from just after the war until 1952 or '53. He formed a formidable partnership at the back with Jock Govan and Jackie Paterson (among others). I think he player 8 or 9 times for Scotland, though he never captained the side.

He then moved to Aberdeen and played for them in the Cup Final of 1953 which the Huns won 1-0 after a replay.

Davie Shaw NEVER played for the Huns.

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Your Dad confirms what my late Father in Law told me, exactly!

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[G B Young]

Home early today so just had a wee flick through a couple of Hibs books. In John R Mackay's 'The Hibees' he states that in season 1949-50 'Smith was Hibs captain now, having taken over from Davie Shaw who had a lengthy absence following a cartilege operation.'

[superfurryhibby]

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Sorry, your dad had got it wrong. He was probably thinking of Davie's brother Jock aka 'Tiger' Shaw who played for the Huns around the same time. The brothers came from Annathill, a tiny village (one street, around 200 inhabitants) in Lanarkshire. They played together for Scotland (Jock RB, Davie LB) against Switzerland in Scotland's first full international match after WW2; the only other time two brothers have played for Scotland in the same match was in 2005 - the Caldwells.

Davie (who my dad assured me was by far the classier player of the two brothers - Tiger he described as a 'knuckle-dragging thug') played for Hibs from just after the war until 1952 or '53. He formed a formidable partnership at the back with Jock Govan and Jackie Paterson (among others). I think he player 8 or 9 times for Scotland, though he never captained the side.

He then moved to Aberdeen and played for them in the Cup Final of 1953 which the Huns won 1-0 after a replay.

Davie Shaw NEVER played for the Huns.

John Paterson managed Thomsons Sports in Great Junction St. A very nice man and he would always be up for a bit of Hibs banter. As a wee laddie I was in green heaven. Lawrie Reilly's pub was a thrown in away from my stair door and John Paterson served you over the counter at the local sports shop. John's laddie, Craig Paterson, was also a decent centre half and he did go to the Hun's.

[brog]

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Davie left Hibs to join Aberdeen in 51/52, it was his brother Jock Shaw who played for the old rangers who did the kicking.

My Dad always told a great story about Gordon & Tiger Shaw. As Hibs & Oldco were by far the dominant teams post war there were always plenty newspaper stories pre the games & before one game Shaw was boasting about what he was going to do to Gordon. Gordon of course ripped Shaw a new one, scored 2 in a 4-1 win. Near the end, Gordon took Shaw down to the corner flag, beat Shaw 3 or 4 times while Tiger was vainly swiping at Gordon & occasionally the ball. After what seemed an eternity Gordon tired of the game & as Shaw charged in again, he stepped aside like a matador, rolled the ball out for a goal kick & walked back up the pitch. My Dad said it was the best & worst thing he ever saw & for Gordon to treat Shaw with such contempt he must have been severely provoked.Luckily most of the fans of the team who don't do walking away had walked away by this time! I believe that was our biggest ever peacetime home victory over Oldco/Sevco until A certain Alan Stubbs arrived.

[Treadstone]

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My Dad always told a great story about Gordon & Tiger Shaw. As Hibs & Oldco were by far the dominant teams post war there were always plenty newspaper stories pre the games & before one game Shaw was boasting about what he was going to do to Gordon. Gordon of course ripped Shaw a new one, scored 2 in a 4-1 win. Near the end, Gordon took Shaw down to the corner flag, beat Shaw 3 or 4 times while Tiger was vainly swiping at Gordon & occasionally the ball. After what seemed an eternity Gordon tired of the game & as Shaw charged in again, he stepped aside like a matador, rolled the ball out for a goal kick & walked back up the pitch. My Dad said it was the best & worst thing he ever saw & for Gordon to treat Shaw with such contempt he must have been severely provoked.Luckily most of the fans of the team who don't do walking away had walked away by this time! I believe that was our biggest ever peacetime home victory over Oldco/Sevco until A certain Alan Stubbs arrived.

Post of the day. Cracking tale.

[The Hibee Harp]

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1947-48 Captain was Davie Shaw then Gordon Smith up to 1954-55 when it was Bobby Combe

Combe took over from Smith in 53-54.

[Scott Allan Key]

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My Dad always told a great story about Gordon & Tiger Shaw. As Hibs & Oldco were by far the dominant teams post war there were always plenty newspaper stories pre the games & before one game Shaw was boasting about what he was going to do to Gordon. Gordon of course ripped Shaw a new one, scored 2 in a 4-1 win. Near the end, Gordon took Shaw down to the corner flag, beat Shaw 3 or 4 times while Tiger was vainly swiping at Gordon & occasionally the ball. After what seemed an eternity Gordon tired of the game & as Shaw charged in again, he stepped aside like a matador, rolled the ball out for a goal kick & walked back up the pitch. My Dad said it was the best & worst thing he ever saw & for Gordon to treat Shaw with such contempt he must have been severely provoked.Luckily most of the fans of the team who don't do walking away had walked away by this time! I believe that was our biggest ever peacetime home victory over Oldco/Sevco until A certain Alan Stubbs arrived.

Wonderful story. It sums up so much of the opposing passions many of us feel about Hibs and THEM.

[Iggy Pope]

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John Paterson managed Thomsons Sports in Great Junction St. A very nice man and he would always be up for a bit of Hibs banter. As a wee laddie I was in green heaven. Lawrie Reilly's pub was a thrown in away from my stair door and John Paterson served you over the counter at the local sports shop. John's laddie, Craig Paterson, was also a decent centre half and he did go to the Hun's.

Bit further up the Walk Bobby Combe had a grocers.

[hibbybrian]

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Combe took over from Smith in 53-54.

You're right, thanks for the correction

[Leith's finest]

Did tommy preston never captain hibs?

[brog]

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Did tommy preston never captain hibs?

He possibly did but Tommy only came into the team as a young man towards the end of the FF era.

[ancient hibee]

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Bit further up the Walk Bobby Combe had a grocers.

And Archie Buchanan at Easter Road traffic lights(the shop became the famous sweet shop).

[Lago]

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I'm afraid I can't correct the old fellow, but he did get the kick lumps out of Smith right

[brog]

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Wonderful story. It sums up so much of the opposing passions many of us feel about Hibs and THEM.

Thanks, my old Dad would be delighted but somewhat mystified that due to the power of the net his stories survive him.

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My Dad always told a great story about Gordon & Tiger Shaw. As Hibs & Oldco were by far the dominant teams post war there were always plenty newspaper stories pre the games & before one game Shaw was boasting about what he was going to do to Gordon. Gordon of course ripped Shaw a new one, scored 2 in a 4-1 win. Near the end, Gordon took Shaw down to the corner flag, beat Shaw 3 or 4 times while Tiger was vainly swiping at Gordon & occasionally the ball. After what seemed an eternity Gordon tired of the game & as Shaw charged in again, he stepped aside like a matador, rolled the ball out for a goal kick & walked back up the pitch. My Dad said it was the best & worst thing he ever saw & for Gordon to treat Shaw with such contempt he must have been severely provoked.Luckily most of the fans of the team who don't do walking away had walked away by this time! I believe that was our biggest ever peacetime home victory over Oldco/Sevco until A certain Alan Stubbs arrived.

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I'm afraid I can't correct the old fellow, but he did get the kick lumps out of Smith right

Davie was the footballer of that pair by a long way.

Of course, he didn't have a Mason in Black covering his misdemeanours all the time like his brother had, but by all accounts he was a hardy man to play against.

Those were the days when 'man-marking' meant REALLY marking your man. Sometimes for life ....

I was wrong about his move to Aberdeen - he went to them in 1950.

http://www.hibshistoricaltrust.org.u...ers/davie-shaw

My father always said that Jock Govan and Davie Shaw were the best full-back partnership he ever saw. That Famous Five team was a lot more than 'just' a star forward line - the defence was something really special as well.

[Drummer]

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My Dad always told a great story about Gordon & Tiger Shaw. As Hibs & Oldco were by far the dominant teams post war there were always plenty newspaper stories pre the games & before one game Shaw was boasting about what he was going to do to Gordon. Gordon of course ripped Shaw a new one, scored 2 in a 4-1 win. Near the end, Gordon took Shaw down to the corner flag, beat Shaw 3 or 4 times while Tiger was vainly swiping at Gordon & occasionally the ball. After what seemed an eternity Gordon tired of the game & as Shaw charged in again, he stepped aside like a matador, rolled the ball out for a goal kick & walked back up the pitch. My Dad said it was the best & worst thing he ever saw & for Gordon to treat Shaw with such contempt he must have been severely provoked.Luckily most of the fans of the team who don't do walking away had walked away by this time! I believe that was our biggest ever peacetime home victory over Oldco/Sevco until A certain Alan Stubbs arrived.

Another guy who tried to kick Smith of the park was Ted Lindsay of St, Mirren. I remember him making a lunge at Smith, he missed and ended up in the old enclosure.

[Forza Fred]

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Another guy who tried to kick Smith of the park was Ted Lindsay of St, Mirren. I remember him making a lunge at Smith, he missed and ended up in the old enclosure.

I can remember when Gordon Smith returned to Easter Road playing with Dundee, and our own Joe McLelland at left back tried to cripple him at the Dunbar end.

I seem to recall Joe came out worst and was limping for a fair bit after his flying tackle...

[AndyM_1875]

Gordon Smith was Hibs greatest player. His record says it all and amongst the auld Hibees he is probably the most loved of all the wonderful famous five.

A story I also heard from my father in law was that many teams tried to kick him off the pitch, Rangers, Airdrie and Third Lanark being some of the worst offenders. He told me of a game in the rain & mud at Cathkin Park that he travelled through for where Gordon took some awful punishment from the Thirds clogger defenders who doubled up on him and several times he was actually kicked over the sideline at one point.
After another appalling assault, Smith was limping (pre substitute days) and this prompted Eddie Turnbull to take revenge by going straight through the Thirds left back and ludicrously becoming the first player to be spoken to by the referee.

Hibs won the game comfortably enough but at full time Gordon Smith refused to shake hands with any Thirds players who became angry he would not exchange pleasantries with them. Smith pointed to his torn sock and his blood covered shins and said 'You expect me to shake hands with you after you've done this?'
Eddie Turnbull then stepped in and offered a few of the opposition some afters if they continued to push it.