Hearts' New Stand Thread (Merged)

[Ryan91]

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This was posted today by Michael Stewart on his Twitter feed.

Watch those electrics, Michael!

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Surely that's a massive health and safety problem? Lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Peevemor]

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Surely that's a massive health and safety problem? Lawsuit waiting to happen.

I'd imagine that, given the media people bring their own gear, responsibility/liability will be with them as opposed to Hearts.

[jacomo]

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Is that before or after the optional seats in the stand?

Ordering the seats is the kind of fiddly little detail it’s very easy to overlook when you are building a new All Seated Stand.

[Iggy Pope]

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I'd imagine that, given the media people bring their own gear, responsibility/liability will be with them as opposed to Hearts.

It’s a workplace. Somebody will have to have authorised Method & Risk. Don’t know about a lawsuit but wouldn’t want that tickle on the fingers if it goes tits up. Especially if I was the PD.

[Coco Bryce]

They were live on Sportsound when it started hammering down and because they were broadcasting they couldn't leave their seats.

Complete shambles of a club Hertz 😂

[RoYO!]

Why oh why did they not just stick the media up the back?!

Oh ye a money spinner. We know how they work out..

Whilst in the mean time the media will slate the stand every time there’s a spot of rain XD

[G B Young]

I sat in this stand for the first time today at the Women's Scottish Cup final. Impressions? It serves its purpose fine, with the padded seats in the central sections pleasant to sit on. I didn't venture along to the infamous police control box end but it's clear that must still obscure the view to significant extent for a few of the end rows despite being hacked back. And the press box is crazily near the front. Not only must the the media get a soaking every so often, it's far too low down for them to get the sort of perspective on the game they would ideally require.

What mystifies me, though, is how on earth it has cost, what, £18 million so far? I can only assume the function areas are something spectacular because I was at a loss to see where the basic structure differed from any other main stand I've sat in. Breeze block everywhere and overall just seems like a slightly upgraded version of the other three stands. The so-called 'glass curtain' looks exactly what it is - a set of windows.

[hibby rae]

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I sat in this stand for the first time today at the Women's Scottish Cup final. Impressions? It serves its purpose fine, with the padded seats in the central sections pleasant to sit on. I didn't venture along to the infamous police control box end but it's clear that must still obscure the view to significant extent for a few of the end rows despite being hacked back. And the press box is crazily near the front. Not only must the the media get a soaking every so often, it's far too low down for them to get the sort of perspective on the game they would ideally require.

What mystifies me, though, is how on earth it has cost, what, £18 million so far? I can only assume the function areas are something spectacular because I was at a loss to see where the basic structure differed from any other main stand I've sat in. Breeze block everywhere and overall just seems like a slightly upgraded version of the other three stands. The so-called 'glass curtain' looks exactly what it is - a set of windows.

And I believe it still isn't finished?

I have to say, the padded seats seem to be an unnecessary expense, I know in the scheme of things it's probably not much but all adda up. Honestly never thought unpadded seats were uncomfortable.

[Marvellous]

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I sat in this stand for the first time today at the Women's Scottish Cup final. Impressions? It serves its purpose fine, with the padded seats in the central sections pleasant to sit on. I didn't venture along to the infamous police control box end but it's clear that must still obscure the view to significant extent for a few of the end rows despite being hacked back. And the press box is crazily near the front. Not only must the the media get a soaking every so often, it's far too low down for them to get the sort of perspective on the game they would ideally require.

What mystifies me, though, is how on earth it has cost, what, £18 million so far? I can only assume the function areas are something spectacular because I was at a loss to see where the basic structure differed from any other main stand I've sat in. Breeze block everywhere and overall just seems like a slightly upgraded version of the other three stands. The so-called 'glass curtain' looks exactly what it is - a set of windows.

It's a single-tier tin can with a little office block at the back and it's cost them a hilarious amount of money. They must kick themselves when they think of all the Craig Wightons and Malaury Martins they could have bought instead.

[Aubenas]

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Why oh why did they not just stick the media up the back?!

Oh ye a money spinner. We know how they work out..

Whilst in the mean time the media will slate the stand every time there’s a spot of rain XD

They had to put the media there because when they (partially) opened the stand, there was no electricity access above that level.

[RyeSloan]

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I sat in this stand for the first time today at the Women's Scottish Cup final. Impressions? It serves its purpose fine, with the padded seats in the central sections pleasant to sit on. I didn't venture along to the infamous police control box end but it's clear that must still obscure the view to significant extent for a few of the end rows despite being hacked back. And the press box is crazily near the front. Not only must the the media get a soaking every so often, it's far too low down for them to get the sort of perspective on the game they would ideally require.

What mystifies me, though, is how on earth it has cost, what, £18 million so far? I can only assume the function areas are something spectacular because I was at a loss to see where the basic structure differed from any other main stand I've sat in. Breeze block everywhere and overall just seems like a slightly upgraded version of the other three stands. The so-called 'glass curtain' looks exactly what it is - a set of windows.

I’ve been in one of the function suites and I can assure you the ‘fulfils a purpose’ feel continues on throughout. Indeed the quality of finish in the toilets etc. was only just above acceptable and no where near what you would expect for the money.

I also believe their top two levels are still unfinished.

Oh and don’t forget that they forgot about a directors box and specific access for the big wigs...

[Topographic Hibby]

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Oh and don’t forget that they forgot about a directors box and specific access for the big wigs...

Wow, is that still the case???

Must make an interesting journey for the directors having to face angry, pink faced men in cardigans when things aren't going too well.

[jacomo]

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Wow, is that still the case???

Must make an interesting journey for the directors having to face angry, pink faced men in cardigans when things aren't going too well.

Budge’s Hearts tartan jaiket is in fact made in a military grade dazzle pattern designed to confuse and disorientate the enemy. She can walk past puce Jambos without getting noticed.

[cocteautwin]

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I sat in this stand for the first time today at the Women's Scottish Cup final. Impressions? It serves its purpose fine, with the padded seats in the central sections pleasant to sit on. I didn't venture along to the infamous police control box end but it's clear that must still obscure the view to significant extent for a few of the end rows despite being hacked back. And the press box is crazily near the front. Not only must the the media get a soaking every so often, it's far too low down for them to get the sort of perspective on the game they would ideally require.

What mystifies me, though, is how on earth it has cost, what, £18 million so far? I can only assume the function areas are something spectacular because I was at a loss to see where the basic structure differed from any other main stand I've sat in. Breeze block everywhere and overall just seems like a slightly upgraded version of the other three stands. The so-called 'glass curtain' looks exactly what it is - a set of windows.

Guess again mate £21m is the number capitalised to date and it's not even finished yet

[Since452]

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This was posted today by Michael Stewart on his Twitter feed.

Watch those electrics, Michael!

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Rain only bothers wee clubs.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Another problem, as we can see illustrated in the picture is that Hearts main stand is west facing meaning that the prevailing wind, which in the British Isles generally comes from the west /south west, will nearly always blow and dump rain right on those sitting in an Eastern stand.

Most UK clubs, certainly the major clubs, you will find that the main, posh, stand is always a west or a south stand for this very reason. Only Tynie and Pittodrie buck the trend.

[Carheenlea]

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Another problem, as we can see illustrated in the picture is that Hearts main stand is west facing meaning that the prevailing wind, which in the British Isles generally comes from the west /south west, will nearly always blow and dump rain right on those sitting in an Eastern stand.

Most UK clubs, certainly the major clubs, you will find that the main, posh, stand is always a west or a south stand for this very reason. Only Tynie and Pittodrie buck the trend.

Pittoddrie’s main stand faces South does it not?
Dundee Utd is open to the elements and faces the opposite way to that of Dundee a few hundred yard down the road.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Guess again mate £21m is the number capitalised to date and it's not even finished yet

Even without the green tinted glasses for what they have built ( nearly built ) that's an eye watering sum of money ... I think I said it before, that's approaching half of what Aberdeen have budgeted for to build a brand new 20,000 capacity stadium. At some point somebody at the Rust arena has to take their head out of their arse and admit the whole project has been handled extremely poorly.

I cant believe that for the same money they couldnt have had a two tier stand with a bigger capacity built further back from the pitch leaving scope to extend the Gorgie and Roseburn stands to meet it, adding even more capacity and allowing them to widen the pitch as well.

[jacomo]

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Even without the green tinted glasses for what they have built ( nearly built ) that's an eye watering sum of money ... I think I said it before, that's approaching half of what Aberdeen have budgeted for to build a brand new 20,000 capacity stadium. At some point somebody at the Rust arena has to take their head out of their arse and admit the whole project has been handled extremely poorly.

I cant believe that for the same money they couldnt have had a two tier stand with a bigger capacity built further back from the pitch leaving scope to extend the Gorgie and Roseburn stands to meet it, adding even more capacity and allowing them to widen the pitch as well.

Ach no! You’re just a jealous and bitter Hibby. The truth is that the rest of the football fraternity beat a path to Tynecastle Park, desperate to learn from Dr Mrs Budge. She is Famous for being the best club owner ever.

Ron and Leeann were well down in the queue of course, but Budge gave them special access because Hibs are neighbours, even though they are just a wee club and much less Famous.

I’m sure Daniel Levy called Budge for advice before sacking Poch, but this is just a rumour because Budge is so modest and doesn’t like to brag.

[cocteautwin]

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Ach no! You’re just a jealous and bitter Hibby. The truth is that the rest of the football fraternity beat a path to Tynecastle Park, desperate to learn from Dr Mrs Budge. She is Famous for being the best club owner ever.

Ron and Leeann were well down in the queue of course, but Budge gave them special access because Hibs are neighbours, even though they are just a wee club and much less Famous.

I’m sure Daniel Levy called Budge for advice before sacking Poch, but this is just a rumour because Budge is so modest and doesn’t like to brag.

It’s astonishing the myth that’s built these few years that HMFC are some well run Company. A quick 2 minute read of their latest accounts shows a football club that’s spent most of their 2019/20 season ticket money before the season has even started. I’m surprised their Auditors have signed off their accounts as a going concern when they only had £500k in their bank at 30 June and current liabilities exceeded current assets by some £11.2m. Totally mental.

[Bostonhibby]

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Even without the green tinted glasses for what they have built ( nearly built ) that's an eye watering sum of money ... I think I said it before, that's approaching half of what Aberdeen have budgeted for to build a brand new 20,000 capacity stadium. At some point somebody at the Rust arena has to take their head out of their arse and admit the whole project has been handled extremely poorly.

I cant believe that for the same money they couldnt have had a two tier stand with a bigger capacity built further back from the pitch leaving scope to extend the Gorgie and Roseburn stands to meet it, adding even more capacity and allowing them to widen the pitch as well.

It's unique, atmospheric, historic and famous and it's all these much spouted opinions that mean it's worth every penny.

When you add in the facts, like the escalator to nowhere, the castle view that's a school view, the al fresco press boxes, the slippery steel walk ways, the uniquely sited police control shed, the seats with partial views, the hospitality facing away from the pitch and windows that are called glass curtains you begin to get a feel for what £21m can almost buy.



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[Alan62]

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It’s astonishing the myth that’s built these few years that HMFC are some well run Company. A quick 2 minute read of their latest accounts shows a football club that’s spent most of their 2019/20 season ticket money before the season has even started. I’m surprised their Auditors have signed off their accounts as a going concern when they only had £500k in their bank at 30 June and current liabilities exceeded current assets by some £11.2m. Totally mental.

Much of the HMFC legend has been built by the BBC with the ill-informed fellows from Sportsound drooling on about the marvellous job that's been done by auld Annie since she took over. They're fitba' people though and don't (can't) read the accounts.

[Cataplana]

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Much of the HMFC legend has been built by the BBC with the ill-informed fellows from Sportsound drooling on about the marvellous job that's been done by auld Annie since she took over. They're fitba' people though and don't (can't) read the accounts.

It's the same lazy reporting that had them the third force in Scottish Football, for many years, when a actually they weren't.

[The 90+2]

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It's unique, atmospheric, historic and famous and it's all these much spouted opinions that mean it's worth every penny.

When you add in the facts, like the escalator to nowhere, the castle view that's a school view, the al fresco press boxes, the slippery steel walk ways, the uniquely sited police control shed, the seats with partial views, the hospitality facing away from the pitch and windows that are called glass curtains you begin to get a feel for what £21m can almost buy.



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When you put it like that....

[inglisavhibs]

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It’s astonishing the myth that’s built these few years that HMFC are some well run Company. A quick 2 minute read of their latest accounts shows a football club that’s spent most of their 2019/20 season ticket money before the season has even started. I’m surprised their Auditors have signed off their accounts as a going concern when they only had £500k in their bank at 30 June and current liabilities exceeded current assets by some £11.2m. Totally mental.

Even less cash in hand last year, I think there was a note in last year’s accounts stating they were expecting the cash donations to see them through. Must be expecting the same this year( indeed it must have already happened)

[jacomo]

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Even less cash in hand last year, I think there was a note in last year’s accounts stating they were expecting the cash donations to see them through. Must be expecting the same this year( indeed it must have already happened)

Well, I suppose that’s true. If folk keep on ploughing cash into the club, even when the waste of money is plan to see, why should they do things any differently?

[The 90+2]

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Well, I suppose that’s true. If folk keep on ploughing cash into the club, even when the waste of money is plan to see, why should they do things any differently?

Isn’t it more of the benefactors have already agreed to put money in so the money is there to spend instead of it being used to bridge the gap if overspending?

[cocteautwin]

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Even less cash in hand last year, I think there was a note in last year’s accounts stating they were expecting the cash donations to see them through. Must be expecting the same this year( indeed it must have already happened)

Yes, they’ve cloaked the reporting this year by informing in the notes of the anonymous cash injection for the first quarter only, to the sum of £500k. HMFC are short of funds by some £4m for the coming year. The auditors should have had some of the creditors reclassified to greater than one year or stated in the accounts what the short term funding was. Dodgy accounts preparation and probably a mistake by the auditors.


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[inglisavhibs]

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Yes, they’ve cloaked the reporting this year by informing in the notes of the anonymous cash injection for the first quarter only, to the sum of £500k. HMFC are short of funds by some £4m for the coming year. The auditors should have had some of the creditors reclassified to greater than one year. Dodgy accounts preparation and probably a mistake by the auditors.


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Am I reading it correctly that they now owe Budge just short of £4m? I suppose they hope that fan donations and others can soon be used to pay that debt. Not that easy when the fans are desparate for even more money to be pumped in to the playing staff and manager.

[Sudds_1]

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Am I reading it correctly that they now owe Budge just short of £4m? I suppose they hope that fan donations and others can soon be used to pay that debt. Not that easy when the fans are desparate for even more money to be pumped in to the playing staff and manager.

Are we witnessing another implosion?