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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    Sad to read that Blue Point has been retired to stud, some horse.
    Yes, superb sprint double at Ascot then he's off. I guess that's just the way it goes with the best flat horses: you just don't get to see much of them as it's a brief career.
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    Just watched the 1815 @ The Curragh, Odds on FAV won for O'Brien despite trouble in running, Armory, get your notebook out.

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    Irish Derby tomorrow, with only eight runners. Can Anthony Van Dyck complete the double? He's the current favourite in the betting. It's also the Northumberland Plate at Newcastle. Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    She's currently 11/4 with Betfair, which I think I will take, in the hope she is just as strong as last year. I'd like to take Anthony Van Dyke each way, given I backed him in the Derby and previously, but I think 1m 2f might be too short a trip for him at this level.
    I backed Crystal Ocean, now a non runner, ouch! 😡

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I backed Crystal Ocean, now a non runner, ouch! ��
    Aye. Enable now at around evens; I'm glad I went on earlier.
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    RIP big John McCririck. Mad as a box of frogs, but a TV legend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Aye. Enable now at around evens; I'm glad I went on earlier.
    There's every chance she'll win, 1992 was the last time a filly won the race though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    There's every chance she'll win, 1992 was the last time a filly won the race though.
    I got on at 7/2, thanks to your info at the time . The only question, I think, is the long lay off. Some of the others are more race fit. If she's as good as last year, she can win it.

    Anyway, I have 50 on 7/2. Fingers crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    I got on at 7/2, thanks to your info at the time . The only question, I think, is the long lay off. Some of the others are more race fit. If she's as good as last year, she can win it.

    Anyway, I have 50 on 7/2. Fingers crossed.
    Aye, it was a very decent bet at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    RIP big John McCririck. Mad as a box of frogs, but a TV legend.
    Thoroughly offensive person.

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    I never knew where John McCirick the character ended and the person began.

    For years I despaired when he was wheeled out as the 'voice of racing' when the annual Grand National debate occured. He was usually a sole voice against 4 or 5 anti racing people and he never did his cause any favours. Of all the articulate and educated people in the industry I always thought it was very deliberate the media chose someone who was so easily objectionable to present the sports case. In recent years he even flip flopped and started arguing the National should be banned. I can't help but think that points to someone who just wanted to be heard and it didn't matter what he said as long as someone listened.

    Whatever his 'failings' as a person he was iconic within racing and beyond. Everyone knew who he was and I'm sure he will be missed by many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I never knew where John McCirick the character ended and the person began.

    For years I despaired when he was wheeled out as the 'voice of racing' when the annual Grand National debate occured. He was usually a sole voice against 4 or 5 anti racing people and he never did his cause any favours. Of all the articulate and educated people in the industry I always thought it was very deliberate the media chose someone who was so easily objectionable to present the sports case. In recent years he even flip flopped and started arguing the National should be banned. I can't help but think that points to someone who just wanted to be heard and it didn't matter what he said as long as someone listened.

    Whatever his 'failings' as a person he was iconic within racing and beyond.
    Everyone knew who he was and I'm sure he will be missed by many.
    I must agree, PB. When I was a kid, he was the face of racing, whilst Peter O'Sullivan was the voice. He was nuts, but, even from childhood, I understood he was someone not to take seriously beyond the racecourse. He had to be taken in context, and he knew racing inside out. Not someone I would want as a close friend, but he breathed the sport. I've have nothing in common with him off the racecourse, but I'm sure he isn't unique in that!
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    Great horse Enable, now has the Eclipse to add to her CV. I do think it was a sub-standard Eclipse, the only other good horse in the race was Magical who she'd already beaten a few times, but you can only beat the horses you're racing against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    Great horse Enable, now has the Eclipse to add to her CV. I do think it was a sub-standard Eclipse, the only other good horse in the race was Magical who she'd already beaten a few times, but you can only beat the horses you're racing against.
    And is only around 85 per cent race fit. Incredible really. She should be stronger in the King George.
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    And is only around 85 per cent race fit. Incredible really. She should be stronger in the King George.
    First race back over a shorter than ideal distance and Frankie didn't even go for the whip which would indicate she won with something in hand.

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    Fair point, but I suppose it comes down to how people rate Magical really, is she the 'best of the rest'? I see that Sea of Class has been immediately retired because of colic, that horse shouldv'e won the Arc last year IMO. Just hope that the horse survives, colic is serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekhibee View Post
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    Fair point, but I suppose it comes down to how people rate Magical really, is she the 'best of the rest'? I see that Sea of Class has been immediately retired because of colic, that horse shouldv'e won the Arc last year IMO. Just hope that the horse survives, colic is serious.
    Indeed, she is in intensive care. Fingers crossed she pulls through and becomes an excellent brood mare.
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    What's the oldest horse anyone has seen race? In the first race at Southwell tonight, sixteen year old See Double You came second in a chase. The winner won by twenty lengths, but that's still a fine effort for such an old boy, and I've never seen a sixteen year old before. Can anyone beat that?
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    What's the oldest horse anyone has seen race? In the first race at Southwell tonight, sixteen year old See Double You came second in a chase. The winner won by twenty lengths, but that's still a fine effort for such an old boy, and I've never seen a sixteen year old before. Can anyone beat that?
    I saw Megalala on the flat at Kempton when he was 15, he was retired the following year at 16.

    I also saw The Tatling at Bath. He was 14 and retired later that year, bowing out with a win at Wolverhampton. His last trainer, Milton Bradley, said he tried to retire him several times but the horse was just having none of it and used to kick the door of his stable when the vans were being loaded to go racing or the lots went out to the gallops without him.
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