I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I've decided that I am. I'm not convinced we would've got rid of Butcher had we stayed up. The club has been completely rebuilt to an extent that it's hardly recognisable from the club that went down. I've never felt such a close connection to hibs that I do now.
Oh aye and there's the cup win
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Thread: Are you glad we went down?
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28-04-2017 10:27 PM #1
Are you glad we went down?
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28-04-2017 10:34 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-04-2017 10:34 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wouldn't recommend it again, and it hurt at the time, but it gave the club a massive reboot. I doubt we'd have had Stubbs, and as Pat Stanton said, 'Hibs will win the cup when you least expect it.' Our jinx was so all consuming, it had to be special circumstances for us to break it.
We would never have done that had we stayed in the Premiership.
We come back up a stronger club than ever before, with a larger, more upbeat, united support, and with bad mother****er of a manager who has helped us shed our lovable losers tag.
Also, we'll actually enjoy playing against St Johnstone and Killie and Patrick after the three season hiatus.
And, let's face it, when was the last time we looked forward to derbies so much?
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28-04-2017 10:44 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-04-2017 10:52 PM #6
I could never bring myself to say I'm glad we got relegated. Has it worked out for the best? Hard to say. If Leeann hadn't came to Hibs then we'd still be a mess. She may well have managed to fix us without us being relegated, who knows.
It's not so much the relegation that has gave us the kick up the arse we needed, Leeann and Stubbsy arriving were the catalyst for it.
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28-04-2017 10:52 PM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If going down was the only catalyst for brining in L D and our Scottish Cup Win then it has now been worth it
But i never want to spend another prolonged period in the Championship
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28-04-2017 10:55 PM #8
These have been the best 3 years I have had supporting hibs.
If you had told me that would end up being the case at FT of the hamilton second leg I would have laughed in your face. In between crying.
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28-04-2017 10:57 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-04-2017 10:58 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In my opinion Butcher was out the door regardless of whether we went down or not that season. I think Dempster saw enough to be concerned about regarding Butcher and his management style in her first few months in the post and relegation won't have changed her mind on that.
Going down to the Championship was an absolute embarrassment for Hibs, spending three years there has been a nightmare. There's nothing that could convince me to believe that being relegated was a good thing for the club.
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28-04-2017 11:00 PM #13
Relegation can never be a positive but bigger picture will bring us back stronger as a club, with a better manager (than Butcher), better squad, altogether ethos about the club and fan base. Silver linings for me...on the up and loving it 💚
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We have won the cup.
We are dominating hearts.
We have a good manager and chief exec.
We have good players.
The crowds have come back.
All pretty strong arguments I would have thought?
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28-04-2017 11:11 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...-Terry-Butcher
There's no mention of relegation being the reason for him being sacked, in fact she mentions that the main reason was that it was decided we needed a fresh approach.
That tells me that she just didn't fancy Butcher's style of management and that relegation made no additional impact on her decision.
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28-04-2017 11:16 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-04-2017 11:26 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There's clearly a lot more of a relationship between the club and the supporters these days but again I feel a lot of that is down to Leeann Dempster, rather than anything to do with us being strengthened through being relegated.
What I will say, which I hope everyone will agree with, is that relegation must never be allowed to happen again. There's no chance that a club of Hibs' stature should be allowed to get into that state again and the custodians of the club must never allow themselves to become complacent to the point that the Premiership status of the club is under threat. We need to be ambitious and that involves challenging for the top few spots in the Premiership every season, qualifying for Europe regularly and consistently getting to Hampden in both cups. I never want to see us play in the Championship again.
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28-04-2017 11:26 PM #19
I would not change one single thing about the last 3/4 seasons.
Great to be alive & be a Hibby."We've also been unsure about what has happened to the receipts of the players who have been sold."
George Foulkes BBC website 20/3/08
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28-04-2017 11:30 PM #20
Absolutely not. We needed to win about 1 game in the last 8 to save us the ignominy of 3 ******g seasons in this *****heap of a league.
Dempster was already appointed so, IMO, Butcher was a busted flush either way.
There should never be a rosy side to Hibernian FC getting relegated, let alone for 3 seasons.
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28-04-2017 11:35 PM #22
Anybody that wanted our team to get relegated needs to get a grip.stupid thread.
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28-04-2017 11:35 PM #23
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I am sure she would have sacked Butcher and his loathsome sidekick even if we had stayed up; there is no way she could have worked with them.
i think we probably would have have done well under Stubbsy in the top tier if we had stayed up but we'll never know how it would have panned out and, although I would never say I am glad we went down, given the cup win, I would not change the last three years.
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28-04-2017 11:40 PM #25
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28-04-2017 11:42 PM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I can see the OP's point. The club needed a massive overhaul, relegation allowed the off-field staff to start that rebuilding while the first team were (mostly) getting on with winning games.
We might have done that if we'd stayed up, who knows?
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28-04-2017 11:43 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-04-2017 11:54 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nobody said they wanted Hibs to get relegated, please read the thread title again
If you think it is a stupid thread why did you reply to it 🤔
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