Gambling in Football

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39742718

Gambling is "rife" in Scottish football with managers, referees, directors and chairmen all involved, according to PFA Scotland chairman John Rankin.

"It's rife, we're not hiding from it. The majority are probably doing it."


doesn't surprise me in the slightest

[danhibees1875]

Rife in the Ladbrokes premiership, William Hill Scottish cup and Betfred league cup? Shocking.

[easty]

I think they should be allowed to waste their money at the bookies if they want. Just not in games they're involved in.

[easty]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Rife in the Ladbrokes premiership, William Hill Scottish cup and Betfred league cup? Shocking.

[JimboHibs]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Rife in the Ladbrokes premiership, William Hill Scottish cup and Betfred league cup? Shocking.

Terrible thankfully Marathon Bet don't promote gambling LOL

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

I think they should be allowed to waste their money at the bookies if they want. Just not in games they're involved in.

That's my views. Regardless of whether they play in said game or not

[cabbageandribs1875]

i'd be willing to put money on the linesman at the sparky free kick game against hertz having a few quid on a draw, or maybe he was just a cheating hertz ****

[Since90+2]

The current rules in place are part of the problem.

Currently any professional player in Scotland is banned from betting on any football matches anywhere in the world which is absurd. In theory if a Ross County player was caught betting on the Barcelona v Real Madrid game he would face sanctions.

Players should obviously not be allowed to bet on games involving their teams and you could make a case for a blanket game on all Scottish fixtures (due to them potentially having inside info about injuries or team morale ect) but a worldwide ban is daft.

[easty]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

The current rules in place are part of the problem.

Currently any professional player in Scotland is banned from betting on any football matches anywhere in the world which is absurd. In theory if a Ross County player was caught betting on the Barcelona v Real Madrid game he would face sanctions.

Players should obviously not be allowed to bet on games involving their teams and you could make a case for a blanket game on all Scottish fixtures (due to them potentially having inside info about injuries or team morale ect) but a worldwide ban is daft.

If the have inside info, then good for them, beat the bookies.

If they can't directly influence a game, then they should be allowed to bet on it's outcome.

[Sergey]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

The current rules in place are part of the problem.

Currently any professional player in Scotland is banned from betting on any football matches anywhere in the world which is absurd. In theory if a Ross County player was caught betting on the Barcelona v Real Madrid game he would face sanctions.

Players should obviously not be allowed to bet on games involving their teams and you could make a case for a blanket game on all Scottish fixtures (due to them potentially having inside info about injuries or team morale ect) but a worldwide ban is daft.

There are numerous clubs owned by bookmakers - Stoke City for example is owned by Peter Coates who owns Bet365 - he's allowed to take bets on the very team he owns and finances.

It's plain daft.

[DarlingtonHibee]

I'm afraid sponsorship is in the main part money. Tobacco, alcohol in the past now gambling.

[JimBHibees]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39742718

Gambling is "rife" in Scottish football with managers, referees, directors and chairmen all involved, according to PFA Scotland chairman John Rankin.

"It's rife, we're not hiding from it. The majority are probably doing it."


doesn't surprise me in the slightest

Interesting he mentions refs which would be incredible IMO.

[Billy Whizz]

Maybe gambling/alcohol logos, shouldn't be allowed on any replica strips

[leither17]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

i'd be willing to put money on the linesman at the sparky free kick game against hertz having a few quid on a draw, or maybe he was just a cheating hertz ****

Well it cost me about 500 quid anyway

[emerald green]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39742718

Gambling is "rife" in Scottish football with managers, referees, directors and chairmen all involved, according to PFA Scotland chairman John Rankin.

"It's rife, we're not hiding from it. The majority are probably doing it."


doesn't surprise me in the slightest

Referees involved? Whoever would have suspected this? It's not as if there's a shred of suspicion.

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39747787


A top official at football's world governing body Fifa was involved in "multiple schemes to accept and pay bribes to soccer officials", United States prosecutors say
.
Richard Lai, 55, has admitted taking $950,000 (£735,000) in bribes.

He sits on Fifa's audit and compliance committee as well as the ethics committee of the Asian Football Confederation.


ethics committee aye right

[cabbageandribs1875]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Interesting he mentions refs which would be incredible IMO.

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Well it cost me about 500 quid anyway

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Referees involved? Whoever would have suspected this? It's not as if there's a shred of suspicion.

i'm sure most of us know wherever money is involved in most levels of any sport, fraud will be involved, i'd even bet on it myself

[Andy74]

Unless there's also a serious corruption problem alongside it I don't see the problem.

Players betting on their own games should be banned but otherwise, meh.

[Pretty Boy]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Unless there's also a serious corruption problem alongside it I don't see the problem.

Players betting on their own games should be banned but otherwise, meh.

That's where I am.

I don't get Bartons argument about football having to examine it's links to gambling companies through sponsorship either. If a club is sponsored by an alcohol company a player wouldn't go out and neck 10 pints pre game so I'm unsure why gambling sponsorship made Barton breach betting rules.

[jacomo]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39747787


A top official at football's world governing body Fifa was involved in "multiple schemes to accept and pay bribes to soccer officials", United States prosecutors say
.
Richard Lai, 55, has admitted taking $950,000 (£735,000) in bribes.

He sits on Fifa's audit and compliance committee as well as the ethics committee of the Asian Football Confederation.


ethics committee aye right

Why do you think he wanted to be on the ethics committee?

It's similar to City folk volunteering themselves onto company remuneration committees - certainly not in their interest to keep a lid on salaries.

[jacomo]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

That's where I am.

I don't get Bartons argument about football having to examine it's links to gambling companies through sponsorship either. If a club is sponsored by an alcohol company a player wouldn't go out and neck 10 pints pre game so I'm unsure why gambling sponsorship made Barton breach betting rules.

Football used to be sponsored heavily by drinks companies, and lots of footballers wasted their careers because of drink.

Now it's heavily sponsored by gambling firms (almost all pervasive) and footballers are heavily involved in a gambling culture.

You don't have to work too hard to join the dots.

[Andy74]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Football used to be sponsored heavily by drinks companies, and lots of footballers wasted their careers because of drink.

Now it's heavily sponsored by gambling firms (almost all pervasive) and footballers are heavily involved in a gambling culture.

You don't have to work too hard to join the dots.

Well, now that you've brought such scientific analysis into it who could argue?

[Since90+2]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Football used to be sponsored heavily by drinks companies, and lots of footballers wasted their careers because of drink.

Now it's heavily sponsored by gambling firms (almost all pervasive) and footballers are heavily involved in a gambling culture.

You don't have to work too hard to join the dots.

Alcohol and gambling have ruined the career of many folk over the years.

I don't see how your industry being sponsored by either would impact it to be honest.

[NAE NOOKIE]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

Football used to be sponsored heavily by drinks companies, and lots of footballers wasted their careers because of drink.

Now it's heavily sponsored by gambling firms (almost all pervasive) and footballers are heavily involved in a gambling culture.

You don't have to work too hard to join the dots.

That's the thing that's going to end up making this situation a big problem for clubs and especially clubs in Scotland, where not only do we have a few ( like us ) who are directly sponsored by betting companies, but also where our three biggest competitions are sponsored by betting companies.

How these dots are going to end up being joined is by the lifestyle police, who rather than take the attitude that more should be done to help people with gambling addiction through counselling etc, will take the attitude that the way to put a stop to gambling is to change the law to force the entertainment industry, and sport in particular, to disassociate itself from any connection to gambling as they have done with tobacco and to a lesser extent alcohol.

The modern approach to these things seems to be that even though millions of people can partake in such things as the consumption of alcohol or gambling without it becoming an issue for them, the fact that a relatively small minority cannot means that these pleasures should be either priced out of the grasp of Mr Average or done away with altogether.

Its a bit like the hundreds of people who appear in court every week after kicking off on a weekend because they cant imbibe alcohol without acting like a total dick and whose lawyers trot out the usual tired old guff in their defence that in their day to day life they are a cross between the Andrex puppy and the Dali Lama and the fact that they broke the jaw of a guy they had never met before was all the fault of demon drink ...... 'its not fair your honour, Mr & Mrs Tennent should be in the dock along with Mr & Mrs Carling not my client, he is the victim here'

By the sound of it exactly the defence Barton tried to put forward .... 'no wonder I gamble when half the clubs I have played for were sponsored by Bet Fred and 32 Red and the competitions they played in were sponsored by the betting industry' .... No hint of any personal responsibility, no sign of any bruises from where William Hill forced him through the door with his arm up his back either.

Don't get me wrong, I do understand that some folk have a predilection to addiction and more should be done to help people who find themselves in that position, but I don't agree that the solution is to take away or curtail the enjoyment of the vast majority of people who can partake in life's pleasures without becoming a burden to society or their families ..... and that includes denying a sport, which in Scotland at least, needs every penny it can get to stay afloat yet another source of much needed income.

As for Barton himself, it would be a lot easier to have sympathy for him if this wasn't the latest in a long line of incidents where he has made a tool of himself and shone a negative light on the game of football ...... whoever bought the little scrote his first football need a good kicking.

[ancient hibee]

Seeing some of Barton's bets I don't know why he didn't tear up some tenners throw them out of the window and then chase the pieces down the street.He would have had more chance of getting his money back.Suspect that most footballers with their"knowledge of the game"are in the same boat.

[OxoHibby]

This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

The current rules in place are part of the problem.

Currently any professional player in Scotland is banned from betting on any football matches anywhere in the world which is absurd. In theory if a Ross County player was caught betting on the Barcelona v Real Madrid game he would face sanctions.

Players should obviously not be allowed to bet on games involving their teams and you could make a case for a blanket game on all Scottish fixtures (due to them potentially having inside info about injuries or team morale ect) but a worldwide ban is daft.

I get what you are saying but how do you police it. Today they are not allowed. Get caught betting get banned. If they were allowed to bet on some who would go through the slips to make sure they didn't bet on games they weren't allowed to. Bigger issue for me is the hypocrisy of the authorities banning it but taking bookies money in sponsor

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://sport.bt.com/football/inverne...11364179137561


Inverness midfielder Lewis Horner is set to be punished after he was charged with betting against his own team.

The Caley Thistle player has been issued with a notice of complaint by the Scottish Football Association’s compliance officer Tony McGlennan after being accused of breaching strict rules on gambling by placing hundreds of football wagers.

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39864684


Annan Athletic chairman Henry McClelland has been charged with allegedly placing 4,011 football bets, including 430 involving his own club.

Inverness CT's Lewis Horner has also been charged with allegedly placing 353 football bets, including three accumulators involving his side.

[gringojoe]

The 1991 League Cup winning squad had a sizeable bet on themselves to win the cup at big odds, got a warning from SFA I seem to remember.

[Is It On....]

Thought this was about Rangers and Hearts betting everything on success...and losing 😂