Well this weekend it goes live in Australia's national league, the A League.
Referees will be able to call on video replays to decide on
Goal/no goal decisions
Penalty/no penalty decisions
Direct red cards(not 2nd yellow cards)
Mistaken identity
The VAR can only be used after the referee has made a decision (including allowing play to continue) or if a serious incident is "missed" I.e. Not seen by match officials.....although I can't answer how the ref would know to call for a 'missed' incident if none of the officials saw it, given that if a player uses the 'review signal' he will be cautioned.
I can only imagine it would mean something like a player laying prostrate behind play, and the ref decides to see who belted him...but no doubt all will be revealed in the coming weeks
Fun times ahead...but this is the first top level domestic league to implement it......no doubt it will be on some of your sports programmes, but whether we agree or don't agree, I think it will be coming to a football pitch near you in the not too distant future.
Dunno how to post the link but for those interested, the full protocols are listed on the Football Federation Australia web site.
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04-04-2017 05:39 AM #1
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(NHC) Video Assistant Referee (VAR)
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04-04-2017 07:53 AM #3
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It has kinda crept up on us, but I'm sure it, or version 2.0 will be implemented by FIFA throughout the footballing world soon.
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04-04-2017 08:04 AM #4
I cant wait for this to come in in Scotland, we will be brilliant after it does, how many goal line decisions retrospective reds cards dodgy offside calls go against us and this is just against hearts.
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04-04-2017 08:25 AM #5
Another reason to watch the A-league matches on BT sports. I'm interested to see how this goes.
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04-04-2017 08:32 AM #6
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A League is a week late as my u18s used it to decide a goal last week!
The net had come loose for crossbar and they scored a free kick through the hole, referee was unsure but was erring on side of a goal.Fortunatly a parent was videoing on phone and brought refs attention to it, and a goal was awarded!
Opposition were not too happy but it was explained by ref that he would have awarded goal and wanted to make sure.
He still got pelters tho!
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04-04-2017 08:44 AM #7
Be interested to see how this goes....im of the opinion that it could only be used for 'matters of fact' like a ball crossing the goal line etc....interesting to see how the penalty decisions go and how long these take to decide. Also, to see how they stop the game if there is a 'suspected' penalty and the ref has allowed the game to continue?
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04-04-2017 09:31 AM #8
In Scotland we're willing to wait 30 seconds up to 2 minutes to gather the ball from wherever if left the field.
So a few seconds to double check with an official on video, to get some key decisions right, is only a step in the right direction.
The Griffiths free kick against Hearts that was 2 feet over the line, and the likes, would be captured. Which is a start!
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04-04-2017 10:01 AM #9
They used it during the the France-Spain friendly last week, used twice; skip to 1.58 and 3.59 on the link below for the incidents. Although it doesn't take very long, they might want to consider stopping the clock when the VAR is called upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXTZh3Ios7g
We've been victims of chalked off/legit goals not given in derbies...Griffiths at ER, Forster at the PBS, so i'm all for it.
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04-04-2017 11:50 AM #10
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Out of interest, what was the last A-league match you watched?
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Back on topic I think it's a good league to trial use of video refereeing as it's low pressure compared to most leagues given it's lack of relegation. If it doesn't work out for any reason I think it'll be easy enough to go back to the way things were without too many complaints from the clubs.
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04-04-2017 04:51 PM #15
The referees in this country will be ****ting themselves, practically every decision they make will be overturned. Craig Thomson will probably retire.
United we stand here....
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The German system/team will be checking the same issues as the Aussies: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...mmary_v1.0.pdf (Forza Fred's link)
... should be an interesting addition to the game, works well in rugby, see no reason it shouldn't work in football.Last edited by PeeJay; 05-04-2017 at 09:18 AM.
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05-04-2017 08:39 AM #18
Apart from our live games, the coverage of our non live games is a joke.
Sky and BT have a 10-16 cameras at a live game but the SPFL sell the non live games to rubbish like BBC Alba, two cameras, similar angle and they missed the Swanson v Foster incident.
If we want video replays for referees, we need cameras hooked up to a truck that can provide replays unlike the BBC Alba non live coverage.
This should change next season when the Sportscene deal kicks in and there has to be a minimum of 4 cameras at games.
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05-04-2017 12:44 PM #19
I'm all for it, however I have one main reservation around what is covered by this.
Say a player bears down on goal and knocks the ball past the keeper, but there is a collision between the 2 players. The ref waves play on and the ball falls to another attacking player who scores.
The ref is about to give the goal, but notices the assistant has his flag up, so he decides to go to video ref. Video ref says scorer is offside, but would there be scope for the attacking team to ask for a further review of the collision or would this be solely up to the ref? If not, I would prefer the '2 challenges' rule that they have in tennis to be brought in.
Am I right in thinking that in rugby if the ref asks for confirmation of fact - say if the ball has been grounded for a try - then all the video ref can look at is answering that specific question e.g. if there was a forward pass or foot in touch in the build up he can't alert the ref to that fact or take it into consideration when making his decision?
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05-04-2017 01:08 PM #20
What happens if the attacker is straight through on goal....is tackled and the ball rolls to a team mate.....ref blows for a pen....its reviewed and its no pen....where does the game re-start?
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05-04-2017 03:52 PM #21
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About bloo## time as well I've been banging on about this for years time could be saved by not treating players on the pitch unless it's a head knock
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Very few instances I can think off where we would have been disadvantaged by this and countless ones where we would have had a goal,a pen, not conceded a pen, had opposition down to ten men or kept 11 men on the park for us. Bring it in as soon as possible and I suspect Scotland may win something in football at last, most overturned ref decisions.
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It would have to be a contested dropped ball-more fun and games.
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