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[ian cruise]

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I used to look forward to giving Rod Petrie a dirty look as he wanders past my seat?

I heard this was the real reason it was being closed. This NHS hub is all smoke and mirrors...

[offshorehibby]

Thank god Tamsons is a members only establishment accepting only pre-booked parties on a match day.

[Real Emerald]

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People will go to the next neatest alternative.
I take my son to the Hibs club. My dad took me to the Hibs club.

Also, behind the goals has only been open for around ten years (fairly certain it's less), so you absolutely have not taken your son since he was a wee boy.

I'm not sure what age he was TBH but prior to BTG being open we went to the lounge in the Coopers Rest which accepted kids but is now closed. Our group are from out of town and need to get in and parked reasonably early. If we can't find alternatives then we would be sitting in the car listening to the radio. I find walking a distance difficult too so a close base is really quite essential for me. It could be the difference between going or not.

[BoomtownHibees]

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I'm not sure what age he was TBH but prior to BTG being open we went to the lounge in the Coopers Rest which accepted kids but is now closed. Our group are from out of town and need to get in and parked reasonably early. If we can't find alternatives then we would be sitting in the car listening to the radio. I find walking a distance difficult too so a close base is really quite essential for me. It could be the difference between going or not.

So if you didn't have somewhere to go before the game you might not go at all? Strange outlook imo. Surely the game is the most important part no?

[EH54]

Until this year we have always used BTG. Decided to move so we could watch the early ko get a seat and a few decent pints the walk is longer but definitely worth it.

[Real Emerald]

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So if you didn't have somewhere to go before the game you might not go at all? Strange outlook imo. Surely the game is the most important part no?

I've renewed my ST for next year already but I may take a different view if I'm left sitting in the car before games in future. I've been going for years where the only joy about going was the meeting up with friends and pre match socialising, the football was usually the worst bit. If I have to walk too far and stand for a couple of hours it may not be an enjoyable experience anymore. It's not all about the football.

[Mr White]

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Surely it's been open longer than that? My laddie is 23 now and I'm pretty sure he was in there well before he was 13.

It was definitely operating during Mowbrays first season 04/05. I've a feeling that was when it started but it could have been a year or 2 earlier.

[Jones28]

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Surely it's been open longer than that? My laddie is 23 now and I'm pretty sure he was in there well before he was 13.

I'm 24 and I've been going there since tony mowbrays first season in charge. Makes it about 13 years?

[B.H.F.C]

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I've renewed my ST for next year already but I may take a different view if I'm left sitting in the car before games in future. I've been going for years where the only joy about going was the meeting up with friends and pre match socialising, the football was usually the worst bit. If I have to walk too far and stand for a couple of hours it may not be an enjoyable experience anymore. It's not all about the football.

Suppose everybody has a different optnion of what is a decent length of walk. But I was arrived after two for the Ayr game a couple of weeks ago and parked down at Lochend which was a 5-10 minute walk up to the stadium. It's not as if you have to be in and parked up at half 12 to get parked at all.

[scoopyboy]

Don't see the logic of stopping people getting in after 2pm if there is room.

Our bus gets there about 2.20 to 2.30 and around 20 of us nip in and get a quick pint before the game.

There are always more coming out than going in and when we get in the place is half empty.

Only costs the club money, bar staff and security are paid for anyway so although what we pay isn't going to change the world it is profit to the club.

I would like for Frank or Tracey to reply to this post and explain the logic behind it, because sure as hell I can't see any.

[Real Emerald]

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Suppose everybody has a different optnion of what is a decent length of walk. But I was arrived after two for the Ayr game a couple of weeks ago and parked down at Lochend which was a 5-10 minute walk up to the stadium. It's not as if you have to be in and parked up at half 12 to get parked at all.

Yes but Lochend is fine if BTG is open. Parking at Lochend, walking to Easter Road to a pub then back to the stadium is too far for me. The real point is that it's a brilliant facility poorly run that I and many more don't want to lose for whatever reason. We should be improving it, not closing it.

[Keith_M]

Maybe Hibs should build a multi-storey car park in the North East corner.


Partick Thistle's original stadium redevelopment plans actually included having them in each corner.

[Golden Bear]

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Don't see the logic of stopping people getting in after 2pm if there is room.

Our bus gets there about 2.20 to 2.30 and around 20 of us nip in and get a quick pint before the game.

There are always more coming out than going in and when we get in the place is half empty.

Only costs the club money, bar staff and security are paid for anyway so although what we pay isn't going to change the world it is profit to the club.

I would like for Frank or Tracey to reply to this post and explain the logic behind it, because sure as hell I can't see any.

The present daft policy discriminates against out of town supporters who more than likely will arrive in Edinburgh between 2pm and 2.30. All we know for sure at this stage is that some supporters (or groups?) are more aware of what is going on than they're making out.

[marinello59]

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The present daft policy discriminates against out of town supporters who more than likely will arrive in Edinburgh between 2pm and 2.30. All we know for sure at this stage is that some supporters (or groups?) are more aware of what is going on than they're making out.

How does it discriminate against out of town supporters any more than the rest of the support? I really don't get that part at all.

[scoopyboy]

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How does it discriminate against out of town supporters any more than the rest of the support? I really don't get that part at all.

I obviously am not Golden Bear but I can answer from my perspective.

We run a 70 seater to home matches and it is basically full each week, lots of families on it and we leave Tranent at 2pm.

If we were leaving at a time where we could guarantee getting into BTG a lot of the members would stop travelling with us as they would be at the ground far too early.

[HappyAsHellas]

I think having read quite a few opinions I'll give the club the benefit of the doubt on this one and wait and see what happens. I will insist on any future venue having a crappy quality big screen though - it adds to the atmosphere.

[Not In The Know]

I find it quite hard to imagine the club can't make a profit from an in stadium bar.

It should be open every match day home and away. I didn't know this year non season tickets could get in. Groups of 4 or more should be able to reserve seats etc

[Golden Bear]

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I obviously am not Golden Bear but I can answer from my perspective.

We run a 70 seater to home matches and it is basically full each week, lots of families on it and we leave Tranent at 2pm.

If we were leaving at a time where we could guarantee getting into BTG a lot of the members would stop travelling with us as they would be at the ground far too early.

Exactly.

[BoomtownHibees]

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I find it quite hard to imagine the club can't make a profit from an in stadium bar.

It should be open every match day home and away. I didn't know this year non season tickets could get in. Groups of 4 or more should be able to reserve seats etc

Leanne has said the facility its past its shelf-life and needs constant repairs and is in desperate need of a refurb. That would cost far too much money against how much it makes every 2nd or 3rd week so I think it's a great idea to turn it in to something that will give us a guaranteed income for a number of years and look at the possibility of a new bar elsewhere in the ground

[Not In The Know]

Hibs supporters club down sunny side should sell their land to developers and build a joint Super venue on the corner of the East and Famous5 stand.

[Real Emerald]

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Leanne has said the facility its past its shelf-life and needs constant repairs and is in desperate need of a refurb. That would cost far too much money against how much it makes every 2nd or 3rd week so I think it's a great idea to turn it in to something that will give us a guaranteed income for a number of years and look at the possibility of a new bar elsewhere in the ground

I agree with this, it's just concerning that there are no plans in place yet and my worry is that once it closes the appetite for going ahead to build a new supporters bar may subside as time goes by. Once it's gone it will be harder to get back, that's why we need to know there are plans and commitments to renew it and not just "thinking about it" noises.

[Carheenlea]

I see Frank Dougan has tweeted that Hibs are looking at alternatives to BTG.

https://twitter.com/bigfrankbig/stat...61267273928704

[BoomtownHibees]

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I agree with this, it's just concerning that there are no plans in place yet and my worry is that once it closes the appetite for going ahead to build a new supporters bar may subside as time goes by. Once it's gone it will be harder to get back, that's why we need to know there are plans and commitments to renew it and not just "thinking about it" noises.

When Leanne was telling us about it she told us that there was nothing in place as yet because the deal with the NHS hadn't been 100% signed and sealed yet however they had to start planning as if it was. She mentioned the possibility of a temporary marquee somewhere around the ground and looking at the East stand for its new permanent home

[Real Emerald]

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When Leanne was telling us about it she told us that there was nothing in place as yet because the deal with the NHS hadn't been 100% signed and sealed yet however they had to start planning as if it was. She mentioned the possibility of a temporary marquee somewhere around the ground and looking at the East stand for its new permanent home

She told me the same but Aberdeen have been building a new stadium for the past 30 years and nothing ever happens. Supporters that use BTG rely on it and I've already paid my £360 for next years ST, I would like Hibs to be a bit more committed in their response to my questions. At the moment it's all smoke and mirrors. Again, it's a different thing saying you may do something than actually doing it. Once it's gone it may be very difficult to get it back, there's always reasons down the line for not going ahead with things.

[IAmLee]

I used to go to BTG most weeks to watch the early game and have a few drinks but stopped as it was taking far too long to get served and when it got busy people would stand right in front of the screen! Had a few tell me where to go when I asked them to move over a bit. I hope if we build a new supporters bar we do something to maximise the space so that most people can get a seat and view of the TV(s) if they want one! Something like legends at Dunfermline would be good.

[BoomtownHibees]

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She told me the same but Aberdeen have been building a new stadium for the past 30 years and nothing ever happens. Supporters that use BTG rely on it and I've already paid my £360 for next years ST, I would like Hibs to be a bit more committed in their response to my questions. At the moment it's all smoke and mirrors. Again, it's a different thing saying you may do something than actually doing it. Once it's gone it may be very difficult to get it back, there's always reasons down the line for not going ahead with things.

I get all that however sometimes things cannot be said when it comes to the running of the club. Communication has been great since Leanne came in so I'm sure she has said all that she can at this stage. There's no reason for her to hide anything

[Real Emerald]

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I get all that however sometimes things cannot be said when it comes to the running of the club. Communication has been great since Leanne came in so I'm sure she has said all that she can at this stage. There's no reason for her to hide anything

I agree but a major facility in the stadium is closing and they have only said they are looking into alternatives. I think a more robust communication is needed e.g. "We are closing the BTG bar but are committed to providing temporary accommodation next season prior to building a new facility fit for purpose". All we have been communicated is that BTG is closing and alternatives are being looked into. It's not that reassuring even though they may be unable to say too much.

[GreenCastle]

Has anyone had an experience of another stadiums supporters bar which they would recommend ? In the UK or eleswhere? I know in the usa they are popular but usually the climate helps.

Could they do something like they do for rugby 6 nations with temporary marquees or again would the weather / licensing / planning permission cause an issue.

I know the space between east and north stand is used as a car park right now and those spaces would be then lost.

I agree its a shame as they talk about using the stadium for the community but they are actually taking away the clubs community who attend BTG so they can make more money.

Making more money fine but there needs to be a solution and I really hope they develop a part of the stadium so fans can meet before the game otherwise the match day experience looses a part for some fans.

[BSEJVT]

So what we have is a crap facility that no-one seems happy with in its current form.

We also have people complaining that they cant get in

Some of the people that are complaining they cant get in, cant get in because they arrive when it is full, because their travel arrangements dictate that.

It's natural that folk have their own "hot button" issues but the club gets criticised for everything it does by people.

If the net outcome of this is that the revenue gained by the proposed changes that can be invested in the team is substantially more then that is all that matters to me.

We are a football club not a social club, there are plenty of other destinations not too far away that will cater for people's needs including the Hibs Supporters Club, it may require a slight change to folks practices but its not end of the world stuff.

As it happens the club are indicating that they will look at alternatives, do people really think that they should turn down the additional revenue apparently on offer and the chance to increase our engagement with the community?

Have a bit of trust and wait and see what happens

[BoomtownHibees]

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So what we have is a crap facility that no-one seems happy with in its current form.

We also have people complaining that they cant get in

Some of the people that are complaining they cant get in, cant get in because they arrive when it is full, because their travel arrangements dictate that.

It's natural that folk have their own "hot button" issues but the club gets criticised for everything it does by people.

If the net outcome of this is that the revenue gained by the proposed changes that can be invested in the team is substantially more then that is all that matters to me.

We are a football club not a social club, there are plenty of other destinations not too far away that will cater for people's needs including the Hibs Supporters Club, it may require a slight change to folks practices but its not end of the world stuff.

As it happens the club are indicating that they will look at alternatives, do people really think that they should turn down the additional revenue apparently on offer and the chance to increase our engagement with the community?

Have a bit of trust and wait and see what happens

Spot on