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[silverhibee]

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Possibly. However it looks like the club are going to get income from that space now 52 weeks of the year instead of for a couple of hours every fortnight, more money for the team.

Is it not used for functions during the week.

[Beefster]

It's a bit rich for Hibs to claim that BTG wasn't used fully when it was ST holders only. It certainly didn't feel like that when customers were having to queue for 15 minutes to get served or couldn't get a seat after 2pm.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

[snooky]

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It's a bit rich for Hibs to claim that BTG wasn't used fully when it was ST holders only. It certainly didn't feel like that when customers were having to queue for 15 minutes to get served or couldn't get a seat after 2pm.

Business is business until something is required from the fans, then the business becomes 'the Hibs family'.

[Just Alf]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

Good post.

I also.want add I've never used it, the tales of.long queues over the last.couple of years always put me and the rest of the guys off.... just wonder how many others were put off also?


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[Golden Bear]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

Great post.

What I would like to know, however, is if any of the fans Working Groups have been involved in the BTG plans/discussions to date (not that i'm expecting you to know this) but hopefully someone will be able to answer the question.

[Golden Bear]

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It's a bit rich for Hibs to claim that BTG wasn't used fully when it was ST holders only. It certainly didn't feel like that when customers were having to queue for 15 minutes to get served or couldn't get a seat after 2pm.

Surely the increase in season ticket sales will have been reflected to a certain extent in the increased usage of the BTG facility?

[ruthven_raiders]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

Totally agree with all that is said above....

[Kojock]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

Well said NN, they used to hold weddings, functions and Christmas Party nights there too.

[marinello59]

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Well said NN, they used to hold weddings, functions and Christmas Party nights there too.

They could still do that in the suites in the West Stand if they wanted. Couldn't they?

[CockneyRebel]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

Excellent post

[Real Emerald]

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Am I the only one who can see the irony in this whole thing?

From the beginning this was mooted as Hibs making underused parts of the stadium available to the local community as part of a strategy to forge closer links to it .... that seems to have grown arms and legs to become a financial venture which will be at the expense of the one community which should be most important to the club .... the Hibs support.

BTG shouldn't only be viewed from a financial point of view, perhaps if it was actually losing substantial sums of money but that doesn't appear to be the case ..... it seems it has been binned in order to make more money than it does. But IMO there was a value to be placed on it which rises above just money .... it was a facility that brought the club and the fans closer together in that there was a social side to going to Easter Road as well as just being folk who turn up to pay at the turnstiles or browse the club shop. It was a place where ordinary fans could see the Chairman or CEO and chat with them if they wanted to. It was a place where Hibs fans with young kids could go knowing their kids could be kept amused and be safe while they had a pre match pint. It was a place where out of town fans who sometimes have to arrive early to get parked could go to while away the time before the match.

For all its faults BTG was a facility that Hibs could be proud of and now it seems like there's a real danger it wont be replaced .... I for one am never confident when I see phrases like "being reviewed" in a statement, it never leads to the outcome you want in my experience.

I have to say that if BTG isn't replaced by a facility at least as good, hopefully better, then for the first time since she joined the club I will feel that we ( the support ) have been let down by Leeann Dempster.

That's basically word for word what I said to Leeann on the Saturday of the Ayr game. It's a facility that doesn't necessarily have to make money in itself. Some supporters may choose not to go when this facility is removed for the reasons you state above. There are alternative plans being thought of but in my book the fans who have been going there through thick and thin over the years should have been the first priority.

We shall wait and see.

[Kojock]

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They could still do that in the suites in the West Stand if they wanted. Couldn't they?

Don't know if the configuration of the suites would be suitable

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Good post.

I also.want add I've never used it, the tales of.long queues over the last.couple of years always put me and the rest of the guys off.... just wonder how many others were put off also?


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In spite of my posts on the subject I used it pretty infrequently as well, mainly because of the trek to get outside for a fag, the plastic tumblers and the impossibility of getting a seat after 1:30pm ... I'm not that concerned about the quality of the lager so long as its wet and alcoholic

Its closure and non replacement wont particularly affect me directly, apart from perhaps making serving times and seats more of a problem in the local boozers as the BTG regulars decant to the watering holes around the stadium.

But as I've said, I think it was a facility that had great non monetary value to the club as a place that made going to ER a social experience and enhanced the connection between the club and the fans .... there's no doubt in my mind that its loss will diminish the hard work Hibs have done in the seasons since relegation to reconnect the club and the fans .... not having a supporters bar in the future will be a mistake from that point of view if you ask me.

Like I said ... it puts us back to a time where fans were just expected to turn up, pay at the turnstiles and perhaps visit the club shop .... Hibs were once again at the forefront of what has become standard practice in new stadiums being built throughout Europe in having supporters bars incorporated in the building ( it doesn't matter that that wasn't the original intention ) and taking such a backward step would be almost against the tradition this club has of being amongst the first to embrace modern thinking and attitudes.

It shouldn't be lost on our club either that a supporters bar is going to be a very likely addition to the PBS once the new stand is finished ... just sayin' like

[howdenthehibby]

There is a lot of talk about filling in the corners ! How about something temporary like a beer tent on match days.

[green&left]

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Well said NN, they used to hold weddings, functions and Christmas Party nights there too.

Are the behind the goals bar and forthview suite not different bars/levels? The forthview one on the upper levels with the grand chandeliers etc? Doesnt say anything about that i dont think.

[marinello59]

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Don't know if the configuration of the suites would be suitable

Pretty much the same aren't they, big rooms with a bar.

[Kojock]

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Pretty much the same aren't they, big rooms with a bar.

But is there a dance floor 😂

[Mikey]

I can't remember the last time I read a post praising BTG but now it's closing folk are doing their nut

[Just Alf]

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Pretty much the same aren't they, big rooms with a bar.

Sort of agree. But it's no just that though.... unfettered access to facilities, outside etc night me different?


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[NAE NOOKIE]

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I can't remember the last time I read a post praising BTG but now it's closing folk are doing their nut

Aye ...... but like many things that folk complain about that doesn't mean the solution is just to get rid of them mate, at least that's what my partner tells me

[Real Emerald]

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Are the behind the goals bar and forthview suite not different bars/levels? The forthview one on the upper levels with the grand chandeliers etc? Doesnt say anything about that i dont think.

All the bars are closing and temporary facilities are being looked at in the West and a marquee (tent) to host the 800 supporters that use BTG at present. A supporters bar is being talked about in the East but that's all I know on that.

I don't mind an NHS hub in the unused parts of the stadium but not in place of a supportes bar. I fear that any such temporary facility is poor and a dwindling of use occurs, thus negating the need to press on with a new bar to host the 800 or so who use it now.

[marinello59]

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But is there a dance floor 😂

I hope so. The birdie dance just wouldn't be the same if you couldn't stamp your feet on a wooden floor.

[marinello59]

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I can't remember the last time I read a post praising BTG but now it's closing folk are doing their nut

[Real Emerald]

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I can't remember the last time I read a post praising BTG but now it's closing folk are doing their nut

It a great facility poorly run, folk criticised it because it could be so much better, not just closed!

[3pm]

If Hibs are getting good money for it, it's a great move.

[Real Emerald]

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If Hibs are getting good money for it, it's a great move.

A new Lidl would make more every day of the week, why not just close the whole stadium then?

[3pm]

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A new Lidl would make more every day of the week, why not just close the whole stadium then?

Good idea.

[Onceinawhile]

It wasn't only used for BTG though. It was also used for professional exams during the year.

[marinello59]

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A new Lidl would make more every day of the week, why not just close the whole stadium then?

I'm not so sure next the logical step to be taken after maximising the revenue we can get from our facilities in order to put the best football team on the park that we can is shutting the club down.