Hertz' Special relationship

[Sioux]

Flicking through some stats nonsense and came across this;

How far did Hertz get in the Scottish over the last 10 years?

2007 Round 1
2008 Round 1
2009 Round 2
2010 Round 1
2011 Round 1
2012 ????????
2013 Round 1
2014 Round 1
2015 Round 1
2016 Round 1
2017 Round 2


Shocking. Thank F we've don't have a special relationship.

[Geo_1875]

They've also ****ed up Raith Rovers record of losing to the eventual winners.

[tamig]

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Flicking through some stats nonsense and came across this;

How far did Hertz get in the Scottish over the last 10 years?

2007 Round 1
2008 Round 1
2009 Round 2
2010 Round 1
2011 Round 1
2012 ????????
2013 Round 1
2014 Round 1
2015 Round 1
2016 Round 1
2017 Round 2


Shocking. Thank F we've don't have a special relationship.

Pedant alert but I think they beat Aberdeen last year before we pumped them.

[iwasthere1972]

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Pedant alert but I think they beat Aberdeen last year before we pumped them.

Certainly did. Remember listening to the match on the bus on the way back from the Raith match.

[Deansy]

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Flicking through some stats nonsense and came across this;

How far did Hertz get in the Scottish over the last 10 years?

2007 Round 1
2008 Round 1
2009 Round 2
2010 Round 1
2011 Round 1
2012 ????????
2013 Round 1
2014 Round 1
2015 Round 1
2016 Round 1
2017 Round 2


Shocking. Thank F we've don't have a special relationship.

Reaching round 2 in 2002 and 2017 will no doubt mean they'll have 2 supporter's buses dedicated to those years to commemorate those exciting times - next it'll be the 'Jambos - The Game We Got A Corner At Easter Road - Supporter's Club.

[iwasthere1972]

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They've also ****ed up Raith Rovers record of losing to the eventual winners.

Maybe Hearts will be the new Raith Rovers. Fingers crossed.

Could we?

[ArmadaleHibs]

Can anyone produce a list of our record for the same time scale. If memory serves me right I think we may have even won the thing in that time. Interesting to see the stats.

[Pretty Boy]

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Can anyone produce a list of our record for the same time scale. If memory serves me right I think we may have even won the thing in that time. Interesting to see the stats.

2007 - Semi
2008 - Round 5
2009 - Round 4
2010 - Quarter
2011 - Round 4
2012 - Final
2013 - Final
2014 - Round 5
2015 - Semi
2016 - Winners
2017 - TBC

[Cabbage7062]

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2007 - Semi
2008 - Round 5
2009 - Round 4
2010 - Quarter
2011 - Round 4
2012 - Final
2013 - Final
2014 - Round 5
2015 - Semi
2016 - Winners
2017 - TBC

how good does that look

[tartanhibee]

The last twice both teams have won a cup we have beaten each other on the way. Here's hoping

[Captain Trips]

The only special relationship that lot are going to have is with The Samaritans.

[iwasthere1972]

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The only special relationship that lot are going to have is with The Samaritans.

I heard that they phoned them but the Samaritans hung up. A hopeless case.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Since they ended us as a club they've been knocked out by

2013 - Hibs
2014 - Celtic
2015 - Celtic
2016 - Hibs
2017 - Hibs

[Bostonhibby]

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Since they ended us as a club they've been knocked out by

2013 - Hibs
2014 - Celtic
2015 - Celtic
2016 - Hibs
2017 - Hibs

You could say it's a special relationship with us and celtc as well then? Master/servant springs to mind.

[Bristolhibby]

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You could say it's a special relationship with us and celtc as well then? Master/servant springs to mind.

They have a special relationship with the colour green.

J

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Their cup final win over the pseudohibs seem to have turned the scottish cup into a poisoned chalice for them.......hopefully it will continue for another hundred years.

[Famous Fiver]

Great to be reminded that we've knocked them out three times since 2012.

Does that mean we get to keep them?

[h1bee123]

Record of all Scottish league teams in the cup since 2012/2013 season:

	pl	w	d	l	win ratio
Celtic	19	14	2	3	73.7%
Hibernian	21	15	3	3	71.4%
The Rangers	21	15	2	4	71.4%
Dundee Utd	18	12	1	5	66.7%
Falkirk	13	8	0	5	61.5%
St johnstone	13	8	0	5	61.5%
Raith	16	9	2	5	56.3%
Partick	9	5	0	4	55.6%
ICT	20	11	5	4	55.0%
aberdeen	11	6	1	4	54.5%
St Mirren	13	7	2	4	53.8%
Elgin City	14	7	2	5	50.0%
Morton	16	8	3	5	50.0%
Edinburgh City	17	8	4	5	47.1%
Albion Rovers	15	7	3	5	46.7%
Dumbarton	13	6	2	5	46.2%
dundee	11	5	1	5	45.5%
Hamilton	9	4	1	4	44.4%
Stirling Albion	18	8	5	5	44.4%
Berwick	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Dunfermline	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Stranraer	17	7	5	5	41.2%
Alloa	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Arbroath	15	6	4	5	40.0%
Clyde	15	6	4	5	40.0%
QOTS	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Annan	18	7	6	5	38.9%
Ayr	13	5	4	4	38.5%
Queen's Park	14	5	4	5	35.7%
Brechin	12	4	3	5	33.3%
Cowdenbeath	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Forfar	15	5	5	5	33.3%
Kilmarnock	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Stenhousemuir	13	4	4	5	30.8%
East Fife	10	3	2	5	30.0%
Livingston	7	2	0	5	28.6%
Ross County	11	3	2	5	27.3%
Montrose	9	2	2	5	22.2%
Hearts	10	2	3	5	20.0%
Motherwell	7	1	1	5	14.3%
Airdrie	8	1	2	5	12.5%
Peterhead	5	0	0	5	0.0%

[Jack Hackett]

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Record of all Scottish league teams in the cup since 2012/2013 season:

	pl	w	d	l	win ratio
Celtic	19	14	2	3	73.7%
Hibernian	21	15	3	3	71.4%
The Rangers	21	15	2	4	71.4%
Dundee Utd	18	12	1	5	66.7%
Falkirk	13	8	0	5	61.5%
St johnstone	13	8	0	5	61.5%
Raith	16	9	2	5	56.3%
Partick	9	5	0	4	55.6%
ICT	20	11	5	4	55.0%
aberdeen	11	6	1	4	54.5%
St Mirren	13	7	2	4	53.8%
Elgin City	14	7	2	5	50.0%
Morton	16	8	3	5	50.0%
Edinburgh City	17	8	4	5	47.1%
Albion Rovers	15	7	3	5	46.7%
Dumbarton	13	6	2	5	46.2%
dundee	11	5	1	5	45.5%
Hamilton	9	4	1	4	44.4%
Stirling Albion	18	8	5	5	44.4%
Berwick	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Dunfermline	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Stranraer	17	7	5	5	41.2%
Alloa	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Arbroath	15	6	4	5	40.0%
Clyde	15	6	4	5	40.0%
QOTS	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Annan	18	7	6	5	38.9%
Ayr	13	5	4	4	38.5%
Queen's Park	14	5	4	5	35.7%
Brechin	12	4	3	5	33.3%
Cowdenbeath	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Forfar	15	5	5	5	33.3%
Kilmarnock	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Stenhousemuir	13	4	4	5	30.8%
East Fife	10	3	2	5	30.0%
Livingston	7	2	0	5	28.6%
Ross County	11	3	2	5	27.3%
Montrose	9	2	2	5	22.2%
Hearts	10	2	3	5	20.0%
Motherwell	7	1	1	5	14.3%
Airdrie	8	1	2	5	12.5%
Peterhead	5	0	0	5	0.0%

Wow!... That's just plain embarrassing...Happy to have contributed most

[Hi Heid Yin]

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Record of all Scottish league teams in the cup since 2012/2013 season:

	pl	w	d	l	win ratio
Celtic	19	14	2	3	73.7%
Hibernian	21	15	3	3	71.4%
The Rangers	21	15	2	4	71.4%
Dundee Utd	18	12	1	5	66.7%
Falkirk	13	8	0	5	61.5%
St johnstone	13	8	0	5	61.5%
Raith	16	9	2	5	56.3%
Partick	9	5	0	4	55.6%
ICT	20	11	5	4	55.0%
aberdeen	11	6	1	4	54.5%
St Mirren	13	7	2	4	53.8%
Elgin City	14	7	2	5	50.0%
Morton	16	8	3	5	50.0%
Edinburgh City	17	8	4	5	47.1%
Albion Rovers	15	7	3	5	46.7%
Dumbarton	13	6	2	5	46.2%
dundee	11	5	1	5	45.5%
Hamilton	9	4	1	4	44.4%
Stirling Albion	18	8	5	5	44.4%
Berwick	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Dunfermline	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Stranraer	17	7	5	5	41.2%
Alloa	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Arbroath	15	6	4	5	40.0%
Clyde	15	6	4	5	40.0%
QOTS	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Annan	18	7	6	5	38.9%
Ayr	13	5	4	4	38.5%
Queen's Park	14	5	4	5	35.7%
Brechin	12	4	3	5	33.3%
Cowdenbeath	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Forfar	15	5	5	5	33.3%
Kilmarnock	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Stenhousemuir	13	4	4	5	30.8%
East Fife	10	3	2	5	30.0%
Livingston	7	2	0	5	28.6%
Ross County	11	3	2	5	27.3%
Montrose	9	2	2	5	22.2%
Hearts	10	2	3	5	20.0%
Motherwell	7	1	1	5	14.3%
Airdrie	8	1	2	5	12.5%
Peterhead	5	0	0	5	0.0%

Ha Ha. That table is hilarious and utterly damning as it really puts into perspective their so-called special relationship with The Scottish Cup.
Our record is mighty impressive it has to be said.

[Jack Hackett]

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Ha Ha. That table is hilarious and utterly damning as it really puts into perspective their so-called special relationship with The Scottish Cup.
Our record is mighty impressive it has to be said.

Guaranteed the yams looking in will have just had another moment when they saw that

[Hi Heid Yin]

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Guaranteed the yams looking in will have just had another moment when they saw that

[RyeSloan]

Ha ha that's brilliant!

[truehibernian]

There is absolutely nothing better than beating Hearts - nothing ! That's why I always, always want drawn against them home or away. Good times or bad.

Our lads know that and play like it now - been a while for the penny to drop, but even the drawn games we've dominated them. Long may it continue - knowing a few of Hearts staff they are absolutely spewing and whilst I'm friends with them it's very very pleasing seeing and hearing the seethe - directed at their own club !!

I'll be a little controversial and say one player in particular changed the way we played/approached derbies and set the tone in the last 3 years - Scott Allan. He dominated the ball in the first few derbies he was here and we dictated every game - others followed and believed in their ability. But for me, Allan was a catalyst. Since then we've had utter belief and I honestly cannot remember the last derby that Hearts dominated ?

Another 'talismanic' player in derbies is Martin Boyle - every game v them he raises his game and puts them immediately on the back foot from the first minute. Even on his derby debut at Tynecastle I'm sure in 20 minutes he created havoc and nearly sneaked one.

Then there's Jason !!!!!!!!

[jacomo]

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Flicking through some stats nonsense and came across this;

How far did Hertz get in the Scottish over the last 10 years?

2007 Round 1
2008 Round 1
2009 Round 2
2010 Round 1
2011 Round 1
2012 ????????
2013 Round 1
2014 Round 1
2015 Round 1
2016 Round 1
2017 Round 2


Shocking. Thank F we've don't have a special relationship.

You need to find another source, cos this is stats nonsense.

Hearts and Hibs don't play Rounds 1 & 2 or 3 in the SC.

[h1bee123]

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You need to find another source, cos this is stats nonsense.

Hearts and Hibs don't play Rounds 1 & 2 or 3 in the SC.

http://www.fitbastats.com/hearts/comphist_comp.php scroll down for full record. The only issue is that for some reasons they have recorded the St Mirren Hearts League Cup Final as part of the Scottish Cup.

[Jones28]

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Record of all Scottish league teams in the cup since 2012/2013 season:

	pl	w	d	l	win ratio
Celtic	19	14	2	3	73.7%
Hibernian	21	15	3	3	71.4%
The Rangers	21	15	2	4	71.4%
Dundee Utd	18	12	1	5	66.7%
Falkirk	13	8	0	5	61.5%
St johnstone	13	8	0	5	61.5%
Raith	16	9	2	5	56.3%
Partick	9	5	0	4	55.6%
ICT	20	11	5	4	55.0%
aberdeen	11	6	1	4	54.5%
St Mirren	13	7	2	4	53.8%
Elgin City	14	7	2	5	50.0%
Morton	16	8	3	5	50.0%
Edinburgh City	17	8	4	5	47.1%
Albion Rovers	15	7	3	5	46.7%
Dumbarton	13	6	2	5	46.2%
dundee	11	5	1	5	45.5%
Hamilton	9	4	1	4	44.4%
Stirling Albion	18	8	5	5	44.4%
Berwick	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Dunfermline	16	7	4	5	43.8%
Stranraer	17	7	5	5	41.2%
Alloa	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Arbroath	15	6	4	5	40.0%
Clyde	15	6	4	5	40.0%
QOTS	10	4	1	5	40.0%
Annan	18	7	6	5	38.9%
Ayr	13	5	4	4	38.5%
Queen's Park	14	5	4	5	35.7%
Brechin	12	4	3	5	33.3%
Cowdenbeath	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Forfar	15	5	5	5	33.3%
Kilmarnock	9	3	1	5	33.3%
Stenhousemuir	13	4	4	5	30.8%
East Fife	10	3	2	5	30.0%
Livingston	7	2	0	5	28.6%
Ross County	11	3	2	5	27.3%
Montrose	9	2	2	5	22.2%
Hearts	10	2	3	5	20.0%
Motherwell	7	1	1	5	14.3%
Airdrie	8	1	2	5	12.5%
Peterhead	5	0	0	5	0.0%

Those are great stats

[ColinNish]

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You need to find another source, cos this is stats nonsense.

Hearts and Hibs don't play Rounds 1 & 2 or 3 in the SC.

Took the words right out of my mouth as i was scrolling down the thread.

[Colr]

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Flicking through some stats nonsense and came across this;

How far did Hertz get in the Scottish over the last 10 years?

2007 Round 1
2008 Round 1
2009 Round 2
2010 Round 1
2011 Round 1
2012 ????????
2013 Round 1
2014 Round 1
2015 Round 1
2016 Round 1
2017 Round 2


Shocking. Thank F we've don't have a special relationship.

Too big a club to bother with wee diddy cups. They're concentrating on working towards that European Cup Vlad promised them.

[GreenLake]

The most special relationship Hearts have had has been with debt and the avoidance of paying it.