Grant Holt

[FromTheCapital]

Often criticised by our supporters but I thought he was excellent yesterday.

Didn't give Hearts defence a moments rest and I've been very impressed during his time here, if he can add goals to his game... He'd be even more useful


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[nellio]

I thought he was good as well. Not intimidated in the slightest and stood up for himself and some of the other players when required. Well played.

[21.5.16]

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Often criticised by our supporters but I thought he was excellent yesterday.

Didn't give Hearts defence a moments rest and I've been very impressed during his time here, if he can add goals to his game... He'd be even more useful


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I think he lacks in goal scoring confidence. As ive said on a previous thread, first home game of the season v Dunfermline. He made a brilliant run and Neil Lennon told him to get back just as Jase was going to pass him the ball. Imo that would have mostlikley ended up as a goal if Lennon hadnt told him to get back. However I dont doubt Lennon had a reason but Holt wasnt offside and in my opinion it was a perfect run. I love Grant Holt hes a funny person and he likes a scrap on the park his goals will come, hope we extend his contract at the end of the season.

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[monktonharp]

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I thought he was good as well. Not intimidated in the slightest and stood up for himself and some of the other players when required. Well played.

he is a big guy, to try and intimidate to be fair. done a good job yesterday and was unlucky not to connect with Jason's cross pass near the end.

[Spike Mandela]

Hear what you are saying but he gave the Hearts goalie plenty rest. Don't think the big man has a goal in him these days.

[Vini1875]

Holt was good yesterday, but a centre forward with no goal threat is not very useful. We could have a centre half in there barging into people. He had three good chances to score but could not direct the ball on target. Whether it is pace, age, guile or confidence he has to do something different because he contributes very little.

[Lago]

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Hear what you are saying but he gave the Hearts goalie plenty rest. Don't think the big man has a goal in him these days.

We'll see.

[worcesterhibby]

Reminds me of Craig Brewster in his time with Hibs..Very good hold-up play, nice lay-offs, but just lacking a yard or two of pace and seemingly unable to score.

[Smartie]

I'm a big fan of Holt, we look much better as a team when he plays.

All of our strikers seem to have an achilles heel though and with Holt it is his lack of goals.

This is more of a problem when we play the diamond, as there aren't many players who get into advanced enough positions who can make up for his lack of goals and it heaps pressure on Cummings (not that he probably minds).

Holt doesn't look like he wants to score at times. When Cummings gets the ball, all he's normally thinking about is scoring, sometimes to our detriment. But Holt looks like he doesn't want to get his laces through it (he's more interested when the ball is in the air right enough).

Lennon's biggest challenge is getting enough goals from our forward line and I just don't know what combination of players will be most effective. I think we'll have enough about us to get over the line in the league, but I think we might fall bit short when we come up against quality in the cup (which HMFC most certainly are not).

I thought we should have signed a striker in the window.

[BoltonHibee]

his work rate yesterday was very good, but he is everywhere you don't want your centre forward to be.

[HappyHanlon]

Watch him prior to Cumming sticking the ball across the face of goal. Bursts a gut to get into the box and was unlucky not to get that shot on target. He put one helluva shift in yesterday and I thought we looked a bit toothless when he went off.

[FromTheCapital]

Holt is two or three times the player Graham is.


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[neil7908]

I've been disappointed in him but after coming on against Ayr he was pivotal in changing the game and was a real menace yesterday.

I do think though that for all his good work we need another forward who can find the back of the net consistently.

Some big decisions in the summer but if we get promoted as expected I'd be wanting to add another forward who hits the back of the net more often.

[snooky]

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he is a big guy, to try and intimidate to be fair. done a good job yesterday and was unlucky not to connect with Jason's cross pass near the end.

Surprised he never ran from the outset to a more central position in the box. He would have given himself a much better angle to get his shot on target.

[BoltonHibee]

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Watch him prior to Cumming sticking the ball across the face of goal. Bursts a gut to get into the box and was unlucky not to get that shot on target. He put one helluva shift in yesterday and I thought we looked a bit toothless when he went off.

He did bust a gut to get there, but his starting position was 15 yards inside his own half when Cummings had the ball inside the 18 yard box. That's not right.

[Andy74]

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He did bust a gut to get there, but his starting position was 15 yards inside his own half when Cummings had the ball inside the 18 yard box. That's not right.

With a guy like Holt you have to take what he gives you and accept that it has limitations. We could play Keatings up there and he would run all day and get in positions but we might never have the ball because their defenders are strolling it when we get it forward.

Holt has to manage where and when he commits and has decent enough experience to do that. He's not always going to call it right or be in the right place.

[Bishop Hibee]

Can't fault his effort and he linked up well but a striker who never scores is hardly ideal. Graham on the other hand looks more likely to score in my opinion but his link up play is poor. Cummings is the one I feel sorry for. Imagine how many goals he'd have scored with an O'Connor, Fletcher or Riordan alongside him.

[Centre Hawf]

Ive given Holt plenty grief but I'm seeing elements of his game that are very useful, especially against that lot. He was combatitive in many areas of the park. His link up play is actually looking a lot better and while he still at the moment can't hit a coo's erchie with a banjo i think he's proving to have some uses. He's also fair better than Graham.

I would actually consider having him tip of the diamond, not because he's a beautiful silky number 10 but his first touch and hold up play are very nice and he seems to find the right run from Jase on occasions. Could allow Keats/Boyle to move up front.

[BoltonHibee]

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With a guy like Holt you have to take what he gives you and accept that it has limitations. We could play Keatings up there and he would run all day and get in positions but we might never have the ball because their defenders are strolling it when we get it forward.

Holt has to manage where and when he commits and has decent enough experience to do that. He's not always going to call it right or be in the right place.

He's too often in the wrong areas for me Andy. I'd rather he was making a nuisance of himself in the 18 yard box or at least the final 1/3 of the pitch. This isn't anything new with Holt as this has been a criticism levelled against him at other clubs. I thing Cummings is quite isolated at times.

[Smartie]

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Ive given Holt plenty grief but I'm seeing elements of his game that are very useful, especially against that lot. He was combatitive in many areas of the park. His link up play is actually looking a lot better and while he still at the moment can't hit a coo's erchie with a banjo i think he's proving to have some uses. He's also fair better than Graham.

I would actually consider having him tip of the diamond, not because he's a beautiful silky number 10 but his first touch and hold up play are very nice and he seems to find the right run from Jase on occasions. Could allow Keats/Boyle to move up front.

I think that most weeks you'd be wanting the player at the top of the diamond to get ahead of the strikers, but keatings seemed to be doing a particular defensive job there yesterday.

Blaming Holt for taking up the positions he does misses the point a bit for me - when a striker drops off it can be hard for defenders to know who to pick up, and he can do some great work dropping a bit deeper.

The problem arises when nobody gets beyond him, and we have struggled to do that at times, although Boyle could be made for this role.

There's no doubt that Cummings gets isolated at times. He's not suited to playing up front on his own but he's made as decent a fist of it as could ever be expected.

[JackLadd]

I know he's past prime but Holt's finishing isn't really what you'd expect from a guy with his pedigree in England, my one gripe about him. I think part of it is his conditioning. You look at Miller at 37 and he's still a fighting weight butchers dog.

[Centre Hawf]

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I think that most weeks you'd be wanting the player at the top of the diamond to get ahead of the strikers, but keatings seemed to be doing a particular defensive job there yesterday.

Blaming Holt for taking up the positions he does misses the point a bit for me - when a striker drops off it can be hard for defenders to know who to pick up, and he can do some great work dropping a bit deeper.

The problem arises when nobody gets beyond him, and we have struggled to do that at times, although Boyle could be made for this role.

There's no doubt that Cummings gets isolated at times. He's not suited to playing up front on his own but he's made as decent a fist of it as could ever be expected.

I think the Tip of the diamond would work for him in that regard. Boyle and Cummings like to go wide and into the channels. Allowing him to maybe get into the box and use his presence. Just a thought.

[Hi Heid Yin]

Yes, he's lost a yard of pace and his goals tally is not impressive, but he brings grit, fight and determination to our side. We need a bullying, jostling front man like him as we are otherwise pretty tame up front.
I like Holt and see him as irreplaceable at this time as no one else in our squad does what he does or even comes close to it.

[bigwheel]

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Yes, he's lost a yard of pace and his goals tally is not impressive, but he brings grit, fight and determination to our side. We need a bullying, jostling front man like him as we are otherwise pretty tame up front.
I like Holt and see him as irreplaceable at this time as no one else in our squad does what he does or even comes close to it.

i agree with a lot of that...but his main role is to make or score goals...and he needs a better return...our "goals for" rate is not enough, He should be hitting 10+ goals easy for us - even at his age. Needs to start scoring to keep starting imho...

[Hi Heid Yin]

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i agree with a lot of that...but his main role is to make or score goals...and he needs a better return...our "goals for" rate is not enough, He should be hitting 10+ goals easy for us - even at his age. Needs to start scoring to keep starting imho...

I used to assume this but now no longer. I think Lennon puts him up front to create havoc and mayhem and pull defenders out of position for others like Cummings and Boyle and our shot-shy midfielders to take advantage of.
Our goals tally out-with Cummings is poor to say the least. Holt is not alone in failing to hit the back of the net more regularly. McGinn, for example, has the pace and the skill to run at defenders, take them on and beat them, as he demonstrated in that classic goal against Dundee united in his comeback game, but he does this rarely - an aspect of his game that Lennon, I'm sure, is all too aware of.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

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I know he's past prime but Holt's finishing isn't really what you'd expect from a guy with his pedigree in England, my one gripe about him. I think part of it is his conditioning. You look at Miller at 37 and he's still a fighting weight butchers dog.

[bigwheel]

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I used to assume this but now no longer. I think Lennon puts him up front to create havoc and mayhem and pull defenders out of position for others like Cummings and Boyle and our shot-shy midfielders to take advantage of.
Our goals tally out-with Cummings is poor to say the least. Holt is not alone in failing to hit the back of the net more regularly. McGinn, for example, has the pace and the skill to run at defenders, take them on and beat them, as he demonstrated in that classic goal against Dundee united in his comeback game, but he does this rarely - an aspect of his game that Lennon, I'm sure, is all too aware of.

or is this just post rationalising his lack of goals? I agree others need to step up too..but you can't have one of your main forwards scoring so few. it's not as if he is "Mr Assists" ....

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Well, for what my humble opinion is worth, I'm delighted he's at Hibs and I'm delighted he played yesterday.

[Captain Trips]

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or is this just post rationalising his lack of goals? I agree others need to step up too..but you can't have one of your main forwards scoring so few. it's not as if he is "Mr Assists" ....

I am just not getting it either, he has from what I have found had 3 assists in league. Yes he brings us something different but IMO he isn't delivering that something different that his inclusion is supposed to bring.

I believe we would still be at least 6pts clear regardless if Keatings or AN Other had played upfront instead of him. Unfortunately for me along with a few other forwards he has been average at best

[Mango Man]

Would like to see our win ratio with him in the team, compared to being out, we seem to win more with him in.