Half Way Point - Comparison

[Keith_M]

On 28th December last year, we reached the half way point of league fixtures at Ibrox (where we lost, but anyway...)

Our record at that point was

P	W	D	L	F	A	Pts
18	13	2	3	32	15	41

(UPDATE FROM LAST GAME)

This season...

P	W	D	L	F	A	Pts
18	10	6	2	30	10	36

As we all know, we had something of a collapse in the second half of last season, so the first 18 fixtures look a lot better than the last 18.

[J-C]

Different season, same old ****, I see no progress.

[hibbysam]

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On 28th December last year, we reached the half way point of league fixtures at Ibrox (where we lost, but anyway...)

Our record at that point was

P	W	D	L	F	A	Pts
18	13	2	3	32	15	41

We'll reach the half-way point for this season against Raith but our record so far is....

P	W	D	L	F	A	Pts
17	10	5	2	29	9	35

As we all know, we had something of a collapse in the second half of last season, so the first 18 fixtures look a lot better than the last 18.

Not too dissimilar at all, league table is extremely similar as well. Can see the game at home to United having the exact same bearing as the game on the 28th last year against Rangers. A huge psychological battle.

[MacGruber]

On some of the other threads there are comments like 'Stubbs never had us top' and v Morton last time out, 'well we would have lost that under Stubbs'

Stats tell a different story

Over to Lennon to have a strong 2nd half of the season and win the thing.
Needs to find big improvement

[Salt N Sauzee]

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Different season, same old ****, I see no progress.

Apart from being top of the league????????????????

[Peevemor]

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On some of the other threads there are comments like 'Stubbs never had us top' and v Morton last time out, 'well we would have lost that under Stubbs'

Stats tell a different story

Over to Lennon to have a strong 2nd half of the season and win the thing.
Needs to find big improvement

We've played one less game, lost one less game and conceded 6 goals less - and we're top of the league.

I'm not sure you understand how stats work.

[J-C]

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Apart from being top of the league????????????????

No Hearts or Rangers but the football is worse, scoring less goals and still drawing/losing to crap teams. We're only top on goal difference, don't get too excited about being top, one more bad result and that goes.

[Waxy]

Good time to have a little winning run and burst away into a healthy lead. Lets see where we are after the utd game.

[pacoluna]

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No Hearts or Rangers but the football is worse, scoring less goals and still drawing/losing to crap teams. We're only top on goal difference, don't get too excited about being top, one more bad result and that goes.

Full of optimism you are.

[Andy74]

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Different season, same old ****, I see no progress.

There's progress in that you can only play the fixtures from this year, not last, and so far we are top of the league and that is having had the spell where the wrongful red cards derailed us a bit.

We are losing less goals, we have players to come back that are crucial to us and so I don't really see where a collapse like last year will come from.

Falkirk don't currently stand in our way which is a bit of a bonus from last year also.

I don't really get the depression - I certainly wouldn't be swapping the Dundee Utd squad and management team with our any time soon. We aren't competing against last year's Hibs - we are competing against them.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Different season, same old ****, I see no progress.

With the heart of our team injured, I would say we are sitting pretty at the moment.......

[percy veer]

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Good time to have a little winning run and burst away into a healthy lead. Lets see where we are after the utd game.

In all seriousness when was the last time hibs did not have a turn of year collapse, even under Mowbray sure we had one. not confident.

[hibspayne]

my hope at the start of the season was we would be top of the league, which we are... can we influence the other teams around us, not really apart from beating them when we play them.. simple. Do the stats look worse, no because we have conceded less and only lost 2 games. so this am happy with, performance wise and style wise no but as ive said in other posts we are only a spark away from being on a good run....

We (Hibs) need everyone behind the team and each and every player from here till the end of the season, beit at the game or on social media or even in the street, make them feel the passion we feel. All i need to do to get that good feeling back is to click on my you tube app, because the video at the top is of that fateful day in may 2016.... remember when the full time whistle went the passion in us the fans, but also the passion in each and every player. they need to feel like that every day from now till the end of the season..... Simples

[GreenCastle]

Feeling the positive energy from some fans here..

Hopefully the players show more bottle and optimism than some are constantly posting.

Keep supporting the team - we are in a 2 horse race and need everyone to pull together - not constantly slate the team when they are top of the league !

[pacoluna]

2014 at this stage we were on 28 points on +11 goals. Obvious fact that both seasons ended in failure. First time at this stage we haven't been chasing, Neil Lennon will take us up this year and on that basis I will regard him as a more successful manager than AS regardless of SC win.

[green with envy]

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No Hearts or Rangers but the football is worse, scoring less goals and still drawing/losing to crap teams. We're only top on goal difference, don't get too excited about being top, one more bad result and that goes.

Not entirely true! What if DU were to also have one more bad result?

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Feeling the positive energy from some fans here..

Hopefully the players show more bottle and optimism than some are constantly posting.

Keep supporting the team - we are too in a 2 horse race and need everyone to pull together - not constantly slate the team when they are top of the league !

[lyonhibs]

It's the status at the finishing line that I'm interested in. I can't see us having a collapse like we had under Stubbs in March/April of last season. Perversely, this cagey and frankly dull style that Lennon seems to have implemented makes me more confident that the arse won't fall out of our season.

That said, it won't be pretty, we won't "skoosh" it and I'm sure our fingernails will be shredded by the final game of the season but as long as we go up when all is said and done, I don't care.

[J-C]

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With the heart of our team injured, I would say we are sitting pretty at the moment.......

Where they missing when Ayr beat us?

Full strength midfield against St Mirren in the Irn Bru cup at home.

Don't make excuses about missing players because there shouldn't be excuses, our squad should be strong enough to cope with missing some players, even though they might be key players.

The football is terrible to watch and I can't see any progress from last season, results wise.

[PercyHibs]

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There's progress in that you can only play the fixtures from this year, not last, and so far we are top of the league and that is having had the spell where the wrongful red cards derailed us a bit.

We are losing less goals, we have players to come back that are crucial to us and so I don't really see where a collapse like last year will come from.

Falkirk don't currently stand in our way which is a bit of a bonus from last year also.

I don't really get the depression - I certainly wouldn't be swapping the Dundee Utd squad and management team with our any time soon. We aren't competing against last year's Hibs - we are competing against them.

my thoughts exactly. When we were entering the last 10-15 games of last season our players were worn out. This year we will have players returning from injury pretty fresh and hungry. Will make all the difference I think.

[Baldy Foghorn]

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Where they missing when Ayr beat us?

Full strength midfield against St Mirren in the Irn Bru cup at home.

Don't make excuses about missing players because there shouldn't be excuses, our squad should be strong enough to cope with missing some players, even though they might be key players.

The football is terrible to watch and I can't see any progress from last season, results wise.

You see what you want to see, I will do the same

Ayr beat us after the red card, which was later rescinded...(Another excuse)

[J-C]

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Not entirely true! What if DU were to also have one more bad result?

What ifs, should we really be hoping for what ifs

[BoomtownHibees]

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What ifs, should we really be hoping for what ifs

The original point was a "what if"

[GreenCastle]

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Where they missing when Ayr beat us?

Full strength midfield against St Mirren in the Irn Bru cup at home.

Don't make excuses about missing players because there shouldn't be excuses, our squad should be strong enough to cope with missing some players, even though they might be key players.

The football is terrible to watch and I can't see any progress from last season, results wise.

Results wise we are top currently - this time last season we weren't

[J-C]

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The original point was a "what if"

Eh?

[California-Hibs]

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No Hearts or Rangers but the football is worse, scoring less goals and still drawing/losing to crap teams. We're only top on goal difference, don't get too excited about being top, one more bad result and that goes.

It's almost like you want that one more bad result to come...

[Onion]

Hibs will not collapse the way they did last season and DUFC will not go on the type of winning run Sevco did in the 2nd half of the season. Hibs simply need to be competent to win the title this time, which means playing a lot better than last Sat.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Eh?

You questioned a post that said "what if Dundee Utd also drop points" however that was in reply to a "what if" about Hibs

[GreenCastle]

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It's almost like you want that one more bad result to come...

That's how I read a lot of these posts currently on the message board.

People wanting Lennon to fail and us to be stuck here for another season.

Instead of let's push on and go on a run / open up a gap !

[green with envy]

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What ifs, should we really be hoping for what ifs

I'm not hoping for that in the least. Your comment that i quoted is surely based on ifs, also what you said in your comment as i've already pointed out to you is not entirely true.

If you want to base your comments on hypothetical scenarios be my guest, but i would rather you post based on fact.