Oli shaw

[Unseen work]

Being completely honest, and this isn't just based on today.

He can't be any worse than holt or graham.

I think the lad should get a chance on the bench to begin with and start breaking him in.

Same could be said for Crane and Martin

[hibbymick]

He's quite a slick player.

[MWHIBBIES]

We were much better when Holt came on, he can be much worse than Holt.

[Liberal Hibby]

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He's quite a slick player.

Indeed he's so slippery he can't hold down a position on the bench.

[Mibbes Aye]

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Indeed he's so slippery he can't hold down a position on the bench.

That's just a crude statement.

[jimmyboco#1]

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That's just a crude statement.

Agree. Watch a lot of the development games. He's ready. Definitely.

[jimmyboco#1]

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Agree. Watch a lot of the development games. He's ready. Definitely.

Needs to cease the chance. Graham is horrific. Full stop.

[jimmyboco#1]

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We were much better when Holt came on, he can be much worse than Holt.

Agree with this too

[jimmyboco#1]

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He's quite a slick player.

Yes he is.

[Mibbes Aye]

This thread has become a barrel of laughs!

[HoboHarry]

Could he be refined into something even more valuable?

[Ronniekirk]

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Could he be refined into something even more valuable?

He is i the pipeline but seems t being kept in reserve Lennon thinks he could make the grade but he nees to wait for OPEC sanctioning this (taking it too far i know but bored )

[Since90+2]

Can't see Lennon giving him a chance. If Crane or Martin can't get in the side when we have suspensions and injuries then Shaw won't get a look in.

I seen him play against Spartans in a development game at the start of the season and he definitely has talent. Clever player with a good touch and eye for goal.

[Ardenttwo]

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That's just a crude statement.

Bit of a dipstick

[The Spaceman]

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Bit of a dipstick

Get back to the fracking point.

[bingo70]

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Agree. Watch a lot of the development games. He's ready. Definitely.

Is he not struggling to make an impact on loan at stenhousemuir?

[Ronniekirk]

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Is he not struggling to make an impact on loan at stenhousemuir?

Lennon has said he is nearing being incuded in the first team squad He needd to bulk up and get more muscle and strength He is prolific for the development squad and scored a hat trick ladt time out
But Lewis Allan was prolific at that level and went outnon loan and hardly scored
So yep Bingo it would be good to know how hebis doing on loan as if not reproducing scoring form at thst level then would suggest he isnt ready yet

[keep the faith]

I'm not seeing our manager trusting any of our young players. Crane and Martin being stripped at 89 mins last week and standing ready to come on at the final whistle last week was illustration of that. Bringing Commons in on emergency loan and no martin on the bench yesterday is further evidence.

[WhileTheChief..]

Aye, let's play our youth team instead, it's not as if this season is important or anything.

Fans always cry out 'play the youngsters' as if it's some kind of panacea to our problem when things aren't going well.

They're not good enough yet.

[The Modfather]

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Aye, let's play our youth team instead, it's not as if this season is important or anything.

Fans always cry out 'play the youngsters' as if it's some kind of panacea to our problem when things aren't going well.

They're not good enough yet.

The flip side to that is "let's just continue to pick players consistently underperforming because we have such an unbalanced squad and expect different outcomes"

No one is advocating bringing in the youngsters on mass. Against the likes of Dumbarton at home, is it really such a risk to drop an underperforming player for someone who might well not be good enough but who might also seize their opportunity, and said dropped player benefits from a break.

[Hibeewilly]

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Aye, let's play our youth team instead, it's not as if this season is important or anything.

Fans always cry out 'play the youngsters' as if it's some kind of panacea to our problem when things aren't going well.

They're not good enough yet.

Well said WTC

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Aye, let's play our youth team instead, it's not as if this season is important or anything.

Fans always cry out 'play the youngsters' as if it's some kind of panacea to our problem when things aren't going well.

They're not good enough yet.

[snooky]

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Well said WTC

Blobby threw a few youngsters in the deep end (not by choice I grant you). I sometimes wonder what became of those guys?

[WhileTheChief..]

But since Blobbys lot we've not really had much success with youth players.

Recently Booth, Harris, Forster and Handling all showed potential and fans were excited about their prospects. None of them will play the game at a decent level.

Now it's Martin and Crane.

Our youth program appears to be that we coach youngsters up to a certain point, realise they're not going to make it then loan them out to lower division teams. They're largely never heard of again.

Scrap the youth policy entirely and use the money on the first team.

[keep the faith]

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But since Blobbys lot we've not really had much success with youth players.

Recently Booth, Harris, Forster and Handling all showed potential and fans were excited about their prospects. None of them will play the game at a decent level.

Now it's Martin and Crane.

Our youth program appears to be that we coach youngsters up to a certain point, realise they're not going to make it then loan them out to lower division teams. They're largely never heard of again.

Scrap the youth policy entirely and use the money on the first team.

Booth plays every week in the premier league. Our guys don't.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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But since Blobbys lot we've not really had much success with youth players.

Recently Booth, Harris, Forster and Handling all showed potential and fans were excited about their prospects. None of them will play the game at a decent level.

Now it's Martin and Crane.

Our youth program appears to be that we coach youngsters up to a certain point, realise they're not going to make it then loan them out to lower division teams. They're largely never heard of again.

Scrap the youth policy entirely and use the money on the first team.

Barry ferguson was on the radio the other night saying that the under 20s league is no use. He got a couple of highly rated premier league 20s on loan and had to send them back cos they weren't ready. For the bottom league.

Our boys go on loan and rarely do much - it was different in the Miller, O'Connor and Riordan examples.

[emerald green]

I admit up front I don't know much about the development squad, but it must be disheartening for these young lads if it looks like they are never going to get a chance to show what they can do in the first team. Especially at a time when the squad is severely depleted with injuries.

Some of the so called players Hibs have signed over the years, and put straight into the first team, have been f****** awful. Not fit to wear the Hibs jersey IMO. I've no doubt most Hibs fans could name some of them.

[ancient hibee]

Shaw is clearly promising but only coming off the bench for a bottom of the table Stenhousemuir desperate for goals seems to indicate he has a wee bit to go.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

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This thread has become a barrel of laughs!

His value goes up and down.

[blackpoolhibs]

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But since Blobbys lot we've not really had much success with youth players.

Recently Booth, Harris, Forster and Handling all showed potential and fans were excited about their prospects. None of them will play the game at a decent level.

Now it's Martin and Crane.

Our youth program appears to be that we coach youngsters up to a certain point, realise they're not going to make it then loan them out to lower division teams. They're largely never heard of again.

Scrap the youth policy entirely and use the money on the first team.

I wonder what the cost is for the youth teams and the academies, and if they are worth it?