Grant Holt

**Centre Hawf** · 02-12-2016 08:47 PM

Forgot he was on the park till he decided to get into a case of handbags with Willo Flood and probably lucky to stay on the park. Why didn't Graham start after playing well against QOTS?

**Del Boy** · 02-12-2016 08:47 PM

He was brutal and should have been sent off

**hibbysam** · 02-12-2016 08:49 PM

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He was brutal and should have been sent off

No he shouldn't have been.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-12-2016 08:49 PM

He's hopeless, cant run cant jump and cant score, apart from that he does play everywhere where he shouldnt be.

***Steve20*** · 02-12-2016 08:56 PM

He's a dumpling:

**Centre Hawf** · 02-12-2016 08:57 PM

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No he shouldn't have been.

I think we got lucky to stay with 11 men. Twice

**hibbysam** · 02-12-2016 08:59 PM

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I think we got lucky to stay with 11 men. Twice

Twice?? Holt's wasn't a red, ref got it spot on booking them both. The only red card that could have been given was their right back for the tackle on Lewis.

**Ozyhibby** · 02-12-2016 09:01 PM

He's absolutely s****.

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**ForeverHibs93** · 02-12-2016 09:03 PM

To be fair to him I don't think the elbow was meant, as I said in the match thread I think his arm just jolted back in the tussle that was going on.

As for him as a player, I've said it every time I've seen him, I just don't get it. I don't understand why so many on here seem to rate him so highly, I had high hopes when we signed him but he can't run, can't jump & can't even hold the ball up like you'd expect someone of his build to be able to do.

I'm perplexed as to why Lennon insists on playing him ahead of JC because it can't be about the rumoured link up play because Holts is poor anyway.

It's not his fault, he clearly tries but he's just not got it anymore IMO.

**Nicho87** · 02-12-2016 09:03 PM

Dud

**ekhibee** · 02-12-2016 09:05 PM

I don't think it would have made a difference if we'd brought Graham on earlier or started with him, our crossing was woeful tonight.

**IberianHibernian** · 02-12-2016 09:10 PM

I think he was very lucky not to get a red and Lennon should have substituted him then since he was ineffective after , obviously worried about a second card . Presume he was a good player in his time in England and some will like the way he uses his experience at times ( ref was probably intimidated by him tonight ) but his temperament can`t be great for team spirit ( tonight`s attitude after our penalty or mouthing off at Harris in Falkirk game as examples ) . Anyway , has odd good touch and was obviously only intended as a signing for this season at most so hope his experience will help us in promotion drive and cup defence .

**sbell1875** · 02-12-2016 09:12 PM

I'm sorry but Holt simply isn't good enough nor has done enough when he has played to merit his continual selection. He doesn't hold up play particularly well, he has no pace, he has zero movement, he causes us to go back to front far too often.

Considering how well Graham has played when he's come in and the fact that Jason has been sat on the bench for weeks now I have to seriously question what Lennon is doing.

**Waxy** · 02-12-2016 09:15 PM

Looking forward to getting a Cummings/Keatings partnership back up front.

**james62** · 02-12-2016 09:15 PM

He would probably have scored the penalty had he taken it which is what initially looked like was going to happen

***Hibs Class*** · 02-12-2016 09:22 PM

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He was brutal and should have been sent off

Never a sending off.

**Centre Hawf** · 02-12-2016 09:25 PM

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Twice?? Holt's wasn't a red, ref got it spot on booking them both. The only red card that could have been given was their right back for the tackle on Lewis.

I would have asked for a sending off if Flood did it to Holt. Fontaine was lucky to stay on the park for the penalty. Just my opinion.

**Dundee Hibee** · 02-12-2016 09:29 PM

Holt is more concerned with wrestling and playing his man rather than the ball, I felt he was very lucky to stay on the park as probably was United's right back for that high tackle.
Boyle's penalty was woeful.

**Enough said** · 02-12-2016 09:32 PM

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Looking forward to getting a Cummings/Keatings partnership back up front.

Surely not???

***bingo70*** · 02-12-2016 09:35 PM

Holts a decent player IMO even if he didn't have a great game tonight.

The alternative is Brian Graham who is a genuine huddy IMO? Holy would be in my team every time

**~~BullsCloseHibs~~** · 02-12-2016 09:39 PM

Holt is finished.

Waste of a shirt.

**The Captain....** · 02-12-2016 09:40 PM

I dont rate Holt or Graham but of the two would rather see Graham up front with Cummings. Holt is finished..if the ball is played into him directly and he doesn't have to move his considerable bulk he's capable of some cute lay offs, he'll also use his 'experience' to win free kicks. Other than that he is no goal threat whatsoever and cannot get about the pitch quick enough.. Poor...poor signing in a pre season that we didnt do very good business imo which is coming back to haunt us now.

**Swedish hibee** · 02-12-2016 09:41 PM

Awful again.

**heid the baw** · 02-12-2016 09:41 PM

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Holts a decent player IMO even if he didn't have a great game tonight.

The alternative is Brian Graham who is a genuine huddy IMO? Holy would be in my team every time

Or Cummings

**shreevesy** · 02-12-2016 09:43 PM

He is not good enough for us and he should have been sent off tonight.

**Del Boy** · 02-12-2016 09:46 PM

If a Utd player had thrown the elbow he did on Andreu we'd be demanding a red. Had another naughty one down back if players leg in first half that could have been booking too.

FFS Lennon just put Cummings back in the team and get this fat useless ******* away to ****.

**MWHIBBIES** · 02-12-2016 09:48 PM

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If a Utd player had thrown the elbow he did on Andreu we'd be demanding a red. Had another naughty one down back if players leg in first half that could have been booking too.

FFS Lennon just put Cummings back in the team and get this fat useless ******* away to ****.

You ruin any chance of being taking seriously by personally insulting him.

**Hi Heid Yin** · 02-12-2016 09:48 PM

Holt is our token tough guy - brought in to muscle his way around the opposition penalty area and upset defenders in the hope that the more fleet-footed, like Boyle, Cummings, Keatings can benefit.
Every team needs this type of player - as Lennon well knows. To date Holt gets a 55% effective against 45% ineffective from me.
For sure he appears as either not very fit and thus slower than he could be, or he is simply past it.
The jury is out for many of us, but I still err on the side of keeping him in as we are pretty lightweight and, dare I say, push-overs for a lot of the more robust teams we find ourselves up against.

**hibbysam** · 02-12-2016 09:48 PM

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I would have asked for a sending off if Flood did it to Holt. Fontaine was lucky to stay on the park for the penalty. Just my opinion.

for the penalty?? He made an attempt to play the ball therfore it would be against the rules to send him off. Holt didn't do anything apart from grab Flood? His elbow made contact with Andreu but not because he threw an elbow, because his arm became dislodged from Flood in the melee and jerked upwards.