Article today in the Herald, sports guru Ken Schofield reaching out to the SFA offering his help - http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...tish_football/
Nothing really insightful in the article itself other than the usual need for a bigger top league and more indoor facilities. He does mention 'closed minds' however, touching upon why Brian McClair felt he had to quit as performance director.
We know something is critically wrong with the way the game is run here and that any of the minor changes implemented in recent years has had little to no effect - is it closed minds? Are teams only interested in the next quick buck? Maybe the chairmen of our clubs are only interested in taking what they can get now and to hell with the future?
Would a guy like this be able to make a difference? THe SFA only cares about the OF, the OF only care about the OF and no one cares about our national team - is Ken Schofield the answer?
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15-11-2016 09:23 AM #1
Scotland, the cow that milks itself
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15-11-2016 09:38 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Would far rather have someone like Murdo MacCleod or Pat Nevin.
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15-11-2016 10:14 AM #3
'Closed minds' sounds about right.
Scottish football is failing, yet vested interests are reluctant to change. Why is that?
Doncaster and Reagan should have been emptied after 'Armageddon' - the disaster that increased attendances and enabled new names to claim some silverware.
Bigger reform is needed, but you have to start somewhere.
Henry McLeish knows we need change.
Barry Hearn knows we need change.
John Collins and countless others know we need change, as do many supporters.
When will it happen?
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15-11-2016 10:30 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Whoever is going to take on such a role should have some experience of the scottish game - Pat Nevin would be ideal.Last edited by northstandhibby; 15-11-2016 at 10:53 AM.
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15-11-2016 10:32 AM #5
I wish we knew what it was that McClair wanted to change and what the resistance was but as usual with Scottish football everything is clouded in secrecy.
They often ask that everyone should be pulling in the same direction but nobody knows what direction to pull.
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15-11-2016 10:34 AM #6
Where is the evidence that Pat Nevin has the experience required to run the game?
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15-11-2016 10:38 AM #7
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He also (i believe) played for east fife in his younger years, so i wouldnt be so quick to dismiss his input.
You cant rail against the establishment but also dismiss anyone without experience of said establishment.
Its quite simple though - the interests of the clubs isnt the Scottish national team, it is themselves and the reality is that for most professional clubs means little nore than just surviving.
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15-11-2016 10:42 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He is also well respected in football circles.
Doesn't have to be Pat but someone who knows the Scottish game and is respected because they have to be both charismatic and a leader. Bring in someone who doesn't know the Scottish game and they will soon learn the hard way.
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15-11-2016 10:52 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It may be I am wrong to have said what I did if your point is indeed a correct one.
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15-11-2016 10:54 AM #10
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15-11-2016 11:02 AM #11
He will be ignored just as Barry Hearn was ............. The two of them have worked miracles with wildly different sports so far as Golf and Darts go, but the big difference is that perhaps they had a few more open minds to work with, not something the SFA or SPFL are known for.
There has been a call for a 16 team premier league for years now ... this guy says its a good idea, Gordon Strachan ( the national team boss ) says its a good idea and its hard to find a supporter who would be against it.
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15-11-2016 11:13 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mind you if they were to join another league as is their public desire to then an expanded league would offer up a chance for many more clubs to win the thing.
In the meantime I think what we have in a 12 team league with splits and play offs for relegation is not a bad one once we get back there of course.
Any new expanded league would have to try to make it interesting for the multitudes of teams with nothing at all to play for until Sellick and the rangers depart for richer coin.
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15-11-2016 11:36 AM #13
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McClair wanted to slim down the academies-far too many taking on kids to keep the numbers up rather than ones with a genuine chance.The clubs refused to co operate so he packed it in.
As far as a 16 team league is concerned it would be a disaster with a host of meaningless games.
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15-11-2016 01:49 PM #15
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Nothing will happen until the SFA (in reality,the GFA) is closed-down completely, lock, stock and all the empty barrels within it. An entirely new governing-body to be set up (preferably located outside of Glasgow) with positions filled by NO-ONE previously employed in the SFA or even acquainted with anyone in the SFA. A mix of ex-pro's, business-people, club-chairmen AND fans-reps !. Above all, NO preference given to applicants simply because they played for either of the OF. In other words, until the governing-body's love-in with the OF is stopped (even watered-down) Scottish Football will continue to go down-hill !!
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If we want change then it's up to the fans to put pressure on their clubs.
At Hibs just now it's difficult because all the focus of everyone at the club including the fans is on promotion but I would like to see a bit more transparency regarding the clubs position on the many issues facing the game. We are part owners of the club now and are financing the club as well. We deserve a say in the direction the club is going.
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We hardly have any Wednesday night games any more .... if we scheduled something like 4 rounds in the first round of fixtures and two in the second for midweek that would stop the league fixtures affecting anybody in the bottom half who made it to the Scottish cup final. Celtic might moan about having European fixtures as well, but tough titty, that's the price you pay for having the financial muscle to ensure you are always in Europe. The bottom club goes down automatically and the two above them go into the playoffs.
I always think of Germany here .... a country of 80,000.000 people with only 18 teams in its top flight, 14 would be a decent compromise for us.
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15-11-2016 02:09 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Your 14 team league structure looks good with interesting ideas to maintain interest throughout the season for the majority of clubs and fans.
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15-11-2016 02:11 PM #19
Petrie just got door stepped by STV outside Hampden. It's on Twitter if anyone is interested.
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15-11-2016 02:16 PM #20
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Take me it you mean a 6/8 split? In that case I would think there could be two demoted and no playoffs given the number of games required.
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15-11-2016 02:49 PM #22
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The value of Schofield is that he has turned around other failing sports organisations and has no axe to grind. However SFA blazers would rather commission lots of reviews then have the chance to quietly ignore the lot!
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15-11-2016 03:13 PM #23This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you want to be brutal about it the bottom 2 could go down automatically and 11th and 12th play off to see who plays 3rd in the championship in a playoff final. Depending who was involved I could see a game like that filling the likes of Easter Road if it was Dundee and Dunfermline involved for example.
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15-11-2016 03:35 PM #24
FWIW I don't think McLeish went far enough, probably because he was trying to stick to a set of proposals that 'the chairmen that matter' would accept, IIRC it would have been a return to a 10 team league. Personally, I can't see why a 2 division set up (16 and 20+ teams) with the league cup picking up the lost fixture slack can't work. As mentioned in the article, that is an extra 100 players playing at the top with the majority able to play for Scotland.
Maybe the problem is the SPFL doesn't think there is a problem. There is money coming in, their jobs are under no immediate threat and the customers are still paying their money. Football fans are the best kind of customer after all, if they don't like your product they aren't going to go out and find a replacement, they will keep coming back.
I think of our leagues as being like a shopping centre on a boat, as long as our kiosk is fine we are happy, unfortunately the guy driving the boat is drunk at the wheel and it only a matter of time before we all crash. Maybe a better analogy for the game as a whole is of the fat ex-player in his 50s/60s who played in world cups and European finals, some player in his day but now way past his best and lives on past glories. In the not too distant future he will pass away and it will just be the old yins who remember his name that will have anything to mourn.
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If teams only played each other twice a season, there is more opportunity for upsets IMO.
Also, the 12 team format may discourage enterprising football, because up to half the teams can be involved in the relegation battle.
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I liked your idea of a 14 team league if it can incorporate split/splits with play offs of some kind or another to keep a level of competition and interest throughout the season. Also if it could iron out the anomalies of teams playing more games against one team than another does then that too would be a big bonus compared to the 12 team league.
Any expansion must incorporate split/splits and play offs to maintain interest.
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16-11-2016 08:01 AM #29
I see it looks like Strachan might just keep his job. Petrie quoted in the Meto saying Strachan has done a "good job".
It doesn't really surprise that Scottish football is amateur top to bottom when the likes of Petrie are involved. He runs Hibs into the ground in a football sense while simultaneously greasing the right palms to move up the SFA gravy train.
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16-11-2016 08:14 AM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He has not run Hibs into the ground.
Hibs are comfortable financially and in control of what is spent. Our last wages to turnover ratio was 54%.
Whilst Rod has made bad managerial appointments he didn't do anything the fans were not asking for at the time (appointing Hughes, Butcher). Also we play in a fully completed, top class stadium and own our own training facilities. We're not having to do cake bakes to build our new stand or stiff the local University for renting their pitches to train on.
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