Penalty shout?

[matty_f]

Apparently another fairly clear penalty not given for us this week for a foul on Holt - what are the thoughts from those that were at the game?

I thought Holt should have been given a penalty last week in the first half, and we should definitely have had another the week before at Dunfermline.

[givescotlandfreedom]

I wasn't there but presume it was this one? https://twitter.com/billydoyle07/sta...26950569611264

[matty_f]

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I wasn't there but presume it was this one? https://twitter.com/billydoyle07/sta...26950569611264

Looks a fairly easy decision to me. Penalty all day long.

[Sir David Gray]

My view of it wasn't great but it definitely looked like one.

The refereeing standards are absolutely abysmal in this country.

[Topographic Hibby]

After his "penalty" in the Brondby game, the refs have Holts card marked, I fear. Unless the challenge is like that Rochdale player, he's getting nowt.

Still a penalty, though......

[JimBHibees]

Wouldn't have given that to be fair. Holt could have stayed on his feet, not clear enough for a pen IMO.

[Mr White]

Looked a certain penalty from behind the goals.

[Jonnyboy]

Stone waller IMO. He was shaping to shoot and the defender used two hands in the back to push him over

[Carheenlea]

I was a few yards further left right in line with it, and a clearer penalty you'll never see.

[Kojock]

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Stone waller IMO. He was shaping to shoot and the defender used two hands in the back to push him over

Yip stonewaller I was right inline with Holt and he was definitely shoved to the ground.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

What makes that look a stick-on is why would have gone over in that position?

[NthCarolinaHibs]

100% from where we were standing and two blatant hand balls that were no given..umpteen offsides in the first half that were given,that just plain werny..shambles..

[Spike Mandela]

Just looking at the footage above it just looks like two big guys coming together and both falling over. Doesn't look like a pen to me.

[Ringothedog]

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Wouldn't have given that to be fair. Holt could have stayed on his feet, not clear enough for a pen IMO.

Okay then, what constitutes a penalty ?

[Andy74]

Wasn't there but didn't look a penalty at all from that footage.

[Northernhibee]

Would have been raging if it was given against us. Not a penalty.

[Jack]

Penalty.

In these days when players "deserve to go down" piece of crap a good honest to goodness deliberate bundle over deserves an honest to goodness penalty.

Between claims like this and a couple of sendings off that never were we need to be strong in the face of errrrr things evening themselves out over the season or .... sheer incompetence, or .... cheating.

[stevie-bee]

Am I the only person who thinks holt goes down to easy for a big guy

[buktadays]

Must say from that footage it doesn't look like a dead cert penalty at all...


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[Pete]

The highlights show the coming together at a different angle and while there's definitely a shove, it's 50/50 wether It'd be given in our game up here.

Some might say that Holt goes down easily but he's been schooled in the English leagues where they are a bit cleverer. Their way of thinking is that if they've been barged and been impeded then why shouldn't they go down? It's not simulation and it would have been awarded if it had happened down South.

Holts footballing brain is probably bigger than the ones of all the refs in this country combined.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Am I the only person who thinks holt goes down to easy for a big guy

You probably are

It's playing the game, he has masses of experience of how and when to do it

[The Green Goblin]

You have to be a Hearts player to get a penalty.

[Heisenberg]

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Am I the only person who thinks holt goes down to easy for a big guy

He does and he uses it very well. We've needed a guy like him up front in this league for the past two years. Delighted we've got him.

[xyz23jc]

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Stone waller IMO. He was shaping to shoot and the defender used two hands in the back to push him over

This. H The ref probably hesitated because Holt was in yellow.

[bob12345]

Would have been soft.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

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Would have been raging if it was given against us. Not a penalty.

But we have already been with the mythical penalty given against us at Dunfermline. As the pundits and papers say, these things even out. Ayr also benefitted from an equally mysterious red card in the home game. Maybe we are due one soon.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Apparently getting shoved, held back, grabbed and generally manhandled are all legitimate penalties, unless you're Grant Holt.

[Moulin Yarns]

Watched the highlights on Ayr Utd TV. It looked the same as the one The Rangers were furious about on May 21st.

[Carheenlea]

If we are ever to use TV footage to assist with refereeing decisions, it's going to have to be of better quality than a single camera high up in the stand. Looks a soft claim going by film, but standing about 12 yards away behind the goal looking straight down in it, it was a stonewaller.
The camera sometimes does lie.

[Colr]

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Wouldn't have given that to be fair. Holt could have stayed on his feet, not clear enough for a pen IMO.

From the clip it looks as if he went over too easily.