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    Could we struggle to readapt to the top flight when we're promoted?

    I don't want to tempt fate but assuming we're promoted this season it'll be three years we're out of the top flight. Could we struggle once back up after not being used to the style of play required week in week out? It's one thing being out of the league for one or even two seasons but it's quite some time. I do tend to think that Stubbsy would have us top 3-4 in the SPL with the team he built and that was the problem - it wasn't a team built for this league. I really hope we can adapt quickly and not have a team in the top flight that's designed for the second tier.


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    Stubbs' team would have no problem competing in the top division - not so sure about this one. I think we'd be bottom six first season and we can take it from there.

    We haven't played any Premiership teams this season so I guess that would be the marker.

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    You just did tempt fate.
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    I reckon we would be able to keep the momentum going into next season and be able to attract the type of players that could see us in the top four or five in the Premiership.

    I do believe this team isn't far away from being good enough to play at the top level and I'm sure Lennon will shortly be identifying players for next season, with a view to playing in the Premiership again.

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    Yeah considering the ***** in the top flight.

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    Think we'll need to add some physical strength to the side and some goals from midfield/strikers. Over a season, our inability to put the ball in the net would cost us dearly against Prem teams.

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    Well for what it's worth we've already beat half the teams in the so called top league while being a Championship side.

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    Nope. Top 4 finish should not be beyond our ambitions. The hardest part will be gaining promotion, nothing can be taken for granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecat23 View Post
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    Yeah considering the ***** in the top flight.
    Exactly! I would say that around 60-70% of the players playing in the premiership wouldn't get a game for us. If we win the league I expect us to be in a strong position to be able to invest in the squad and be competitive.

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    Watched Partick v Sheep last night and have no doubts we would be in the top half.

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    If we don't win the premiership next season Lennon can gtf.

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    Team could be vastly different by next summer so absolutely no way of knowing.

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    There are a lot of players out of contract at the end of the season. The GK is on loan. McGinn and Cummings could have bids in for them. Essentially we could see a whole new team next year, we just don't know. I think we will resign quite a few of the players at the end of their contract, so it will probably be a similar team as we have with a few additions. I think the current squad would be fighting for a Euro place if the were in the Premiership at the moment. Last year we seemed to click against Premiership sides, maybe due to them being less defensive as Championship teams are against us. I may have green tinted specs but we have some great players at this club, players who would walk into any bar a couple of sides in the Premiership.


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    Just build a team to get us up. Then once we are there, build a team to compete in that league. Don't care about fancy football this year it just needs to be effective.

    I also think the gap between the top of the championship and about half of the premiership is minimal, if there even is one. For instance, would Ross County, Partick, Killie etc be winning every week if they were in our position?

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    First of all it`s IF not WHEN we`re promoted . We`re only 3 points clear of Dundee United and have played 3 of the weaker teams in the second round of fixtures . Secondly as others have said ou team could be completely different if we go up ( and even more so if we don`t ) since some may leave ( loanees back to their clubs , others not good enough for higher divison etc ) and I`d be surprised if Lennon is still our manager next season whatever division we`re in . Having said that , I`d expect a newly-promoted Hibs team with present level or even better support to have a team that would be challenging for top 4 from the start . Doesn`t mean we`d make top 4 or even top 6 ( look at 2013 when we played some great stuff but were victims of bad luck and terrible refereeing and finished 7th ) but would hope to be challenging for Europe .

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    After watching the 'top league' highlights recently, even St Midden would finish top 6.

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    We are carrying a pressure in this league which effects the crowd and is also definitely felt throughout the squad. This is a huge factor I think in the resulting fashion of play. Without that weight hopefully we would loosen up and easily compete with them...


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    Quote Originally Posted by vince1973 View Post
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    There are a lot of players out of contract at the end of the season. The GK is on loan. McGinn and Cummings could have bids in for them. Essentially we could see a whole new team next year, we just don't know. I think we will resign quite a few of the players at the end of their contract, so it will probably be a similar team as we have with a few additions. I think the current squad would be fighting for a Euro place if the were in the Premiership at the moment. Last year we seemed to click against Premiership sides, maybe due to them being less defensive as Championship teams are against us. I may have green tinted specs but we have some great players at this club, players who would walk into any bar a couple of sides in the Premiership.
    True. This is the best squad we've had for years. Stubbs left us a good bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    Think we'll need to add some physical strength to the side and some goals from midfield/strikers. Over a season, our inability to put the ball in the net would cost us dearly against Prem teams.
    I'd agree over the distant past but with yesterday's 3 zip win and a goal difference of 33% better than our closest rivals can I be the first to say, as previously probably one of our worst critics for not scoring, I think we may maybe possibly hopefully eeek squeak have turned the scoring corner.

    Keep this up we'll be 70 odd goals scored and with a tight fisted defence around 40 goals to the good, thanks Darren n Hanlon!

    I'd still like us to aim for triple figures. Goals scored or even better difference I don't mind :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RagingReality View Post
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    Stubbs' team would have no problem competing in the top division - not so sure about this one. I think we'd be bottom six first season and we can take it from there.

    We haven't played any Premiership teams this season so I guess that would be the marker.
    Yet Stubbs' team couldn't get into the top division so why assume they would have no problems competing in it. If you are referring to the cup successes over SPL teams as your proof, then I think you are forgetting cup games are totally different to competing over a whole season.

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    Wouldn't assume we will be up. Dundee Utd could easily win the league and we could lose the play off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Wouldn't assume we will be up. Dundee Utd could easily win the league and we could lose the play off.


    I would call the two teams about even at the moment taking into account points, form and the teams played so far in this round of fixtures.

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    There isn't a great deal of difference between the top 4 or so in the Championship and the bottom 6 in the Premiership. But Hibs aren't used to playing teams who face tough opposition every week ..... play the likes of Killie and their last 3 games could have been Celtic, Aberdeen and St Johnstone ..... that toughens players up a lot more than playing the likes of Dumbarton, Morton and St Mirren every other week, in view of that I think we would take some time to adapt to the different pressures and teams who are, if not more attacking, are probably more likely to take the chances they do get.

    I think we would be comfortably mid table with the team we have at the moment, but we probably would need to recruit some players with Premiership experience ....... Lets face it, if John McGinn comes on against Engerlund on Friday and does well folk are going to start taking notice, the good news is that it would not be unreasonable to ask for at least two million for him, edging closer to three if we can start a bidding war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    I don't want to tempt fate but assuming we're promoted this season it'll be three years we're out of the top flight. Could we struggle once back up after not being used to the style of play required week in week out? It's one thing being out of the league for one or even two seasons but it's quite some time. I do tend to think that Stubbsy would have us top 3-4 in the SPL with the team he built and that was the problem - it wasn't a team built for this league. I really hope we can adapt quickly and not have a team in the top flight that's designed for the second tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    I don't want to tempt fate but assuming we're promoted this season it'll be three years we're out of the top flight. Could we struggle once back up after not being used to the style of play required week in week out? It's one thing being out of the league for one or even two seasons but it's quite some time. I do tend to think that Stubbsy would have us top 3-4 in the SPL with the team he built and that was the problem - it wasn't a team built for this league. I really hope we can adapt quickly and not have a team in the top flight that's designed for the second tier.
    I will not struggle to readapt, I am fully prepared.

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    we will not struggle in the Premier, our team is setup for it, were finding it difficult because teams are just sitting back defending, if we had more attacking minded teams like in the Premier we would be alright, absolutely no doubt about that.

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    We will win this league and as for competing, have you seen the standard of the premiership? Take Celtic out of it and we'd be competing for second this season.

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    Think we'll need to add some physical strength to the side and some goals from midfield/strikers. Over a season, our inability to put the ball in the net would cost us dearly against Prem teams.
    Exactly , if you look at the top teams in the league they would bully us off the ball , particulalry in midfield.
    We have a team to get out of this league , same team in the Premiership next year would be bottom 3.

    Am not encouraging the agricultural football shown by oher teams , but we would definitely have to add half a dozen players who can play at a quicker , stronger level which would compliment the handful of our players just now who can play at a top end SPL level.

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