Fifa ban poppy from shirts

[HibbyDave]

Story in the press about FIFA stating Scotland and England cannot wear a poppy on their shirt as it is political!
Loads of teams have a poppy on their shirt at this time of year.

[Keith_M]

Everybody run for cover!!!!!!

[CyberSauzee]

I thought it was to remember the war dead. Some choose not to wear a strip with a poppy on it for political reasons.

What next, banning black armbands as that could be inferred as a political statement by some!!?

[Pretty Boy]

This happened last year as well and the year before and the year before and so on and so forth.

It's sure fire click bait for the tabloids though as people vent their outrage so it's perfect for a slow news day.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Not read any links but heard it in the news driving to work.

I assumed it was due to it being international football where FIFA bans any statement of sorts?

Guaranteed the usual James McLean case will appear in the media over the coming days....

[bingo70]

Why do we need to wear poppies on our shirts? Don't remember anyone doing this at all until the last few years?

(Now where's that can of worms smilie)

[Moulin Yarns]

Is this acceptable?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

The rangers had poppies at the weekend. Fine or points deduction?

[Thecat23]

I'm getting sick to death that every year this is becoming an issue. It's like it's now a must have fashion item. If folk don't wear one they are slaughtered for it in the press! It's down to personal reasons when folk choose not to or want to and it shouldn't make the papers or news.

I'll wear one on my jacket but not for fashion but for a mark of respect which seems to be getting lost in the political rubbish.

I couldn't care less if the person next to me at work doesn't wear one and I'll not be pestering him why either.

Rant over! 😁

[Itsnoteasy]

When did this actually start to be a fashion item on a shirt. Can't remember them in 70.'s 80's & 90's

[Bostonhibby]

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I'm getting sick to death that every year this is becoming an issue. It's like it's now a must have fashion item. If folk don't wear one they are slaughtered for it in the press! It's down to personal reasons when folk choose not to or want to and it shouldn't make the papers or news.

I'll wear one on my jacket but not for fashion but for a mark of respect which seems to be getting lost in the political rubbish.

I couldn't care less if the person next to me at work doesn't wear one and I'll not be pestering him why either.

Rant over! 😁

Yep, same here.

FIFA would be a lot better advised to ban snouts from troughs and stay out of moral issues until they put their own house in order.



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[Thecat23]

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Yep, same here.

FIFA would be a lot better advised to ban snouts from troughs and stay out of moral issues until they put their own house in order.



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Exactly.

[Largshibby]

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The rangers had poppies at the weekend. Fine or points deduction?

They can do that as they are the football club of choice for the armed forces. Fair enough since they are both taxpayer funded!

[son of haggart]

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I'm getting sick to death that every year this is becoming an issue. It's like it's now a must have fashion item. If folk don't wear one they are slaughtered for it in the press! It's down to personal reasons when folk choose not to or want to and it shouldn't make the papers or news.

I'll wear one on my jacket but not for fashion but for a mark of respect which seems to be getting lost in the political rubbish.

I couldn't care less if the person next to me at work doesn't wear one and I'll not be pestering him why either.

Rant over! 😁

The correct answer - should be a personal choice unless there are special circumstances where the poppy would be appropriate. Even then we should respect people's right to opt out of the event

[southern hibby]

This can cant wear poppies is a farce. It's personal choice but for an orginisation like FIFA to come out and say you can't wear a poppies is a disgrace.
Don't know if FIFA realise there are different coloured Poppies, also on offer if red isn't wanted is White ( for peace) purple ( not sure about) black ( for African and ethnic minorities).

As having served 22 years Royal Navy, I have never once put a poppy on and thought it was just for British Military that died, I have also believed it to be for everyone who died in every conflict., from all religious and walks of life including civilians personal caught up in the conflicts.

They may stop clubs from wearing a poppy but they'll not stop me from wearing one on my Hibs Top.


GGTTH.

[Andy74]

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This can cant wear poppies is a farce. It's personal choice but for an orginisation like FIFA to come out and say you can't wear a poppies is a disgrace.
Don't know if FIFA realise there are different coloured Poppies, also on offer if red isn't wanted is White ( for peace) purple ( not sure about) black ( for African and ethnic minorities).

As having served 22 years Royal Navy, I have never once put a poppy on and thought it was just for British Military that died, I have also believed it to be for everyone who died in every conflict., from all religious and walks of life including civilians personal caught up in the conflicts.

They may stop clubs from wearing a poppy but they'll not stop me from wearing one on my Hibs Top.


GGTTH.

They aren't specifically targeting poppies. What they have to be careful about is leaving it open for all sorts of gestures which of course the people wanting it can justify but may cause issues.

It's a tricky one so I can see why a blanket ban on this stuff without making individual judgments works fine.

[Keith_M]

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The correct answer - should be a personal choice unless there are special circumstances where the poppy would be appropriate. Even then we should respect people's right to opt out of the event

So personal choice should come into it until somebody else decides otherwise?


I do not and never have worn a red poppy. That is my choice and the reasons behind it are personal. People may well infer something into this and invariably they will be wrong, as it's based purely on their own prejudiced view of life.

Forcing me to wear a Poppy if I do not want to is reminiscent of a fascist state.

[JimBHibees]

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So personal choice should come into it until somebody else decides otherwise?


I do not and never have worn a red poppy. That is my choice and the reasons behind it are personal. People may well infer something into this and invariably they will be wrong, as it's based purely on their own prejudiced view of life.

Forcing me to wear a Poppy if I do not want to is reminiscent of a fascist state.

Tend to agree surely the whole idea of remembering the war dead is that they perceived they were fighting for the very freedom against totalitarianism which this poppy fascism seems to represent.

[Geo_1875]

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Tend to agree surely the whole idea of remembering the war dead is that they perceived they were fighting for the very freedom against totalitarianism which this poppy fascism seems to represent.

Not in the "Great War".

[JimBHibees]

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Not in the "Great War".

They certainly thought they were fighting for freedom.

[ED Hibee]

For once I am with FIFA on this one. People need to look at the wider picture. The poppy is not an international symbol for peace and can be quite a divisive issue (James McLean/Northern Ireland etc).

If FIFA were to allow this how could they stop other countries wearing symbols to commemorate their war dead in conflicts that are a lot closer and more sensitive than the ones we tend to remember (Ukraine/Russia, Serbia/Bosnia/Albania).

[CockneyRebel]

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So personal choice should come into it until somebody else decides otherwise?


I do not and never have worn a red poppy. That is my choice and the reasons behind it are personal. People may well infer something into this and invariably they will be wrong, as it's based purely on their own prejudiced view of life.

Forcing me to wear a Poppy if I do not want to is reminiscent of a fascist state.

No-one has ever been forced to wear a poppy, it has always been a matter of choice. Some dicks criticise folk for not wearing one but you could never be forced to wear one. Your statement seems just as silly as their criticism.

[jacomo]

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[/B]No-one has ever been forced to wear a poppy, it has always been a matter of choice. Some dicks criticise folk for not wearing one but you could never be forced to wear one. Your statement seems just as silly as their criticism.

Incorporating a poppy into a shirt design literally does force the players to wear one though. They are not given any choice in the matter.

[Geo_1875]

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They certainly thought they were fighting for freedom.

Well somebody lied to them.

[lyonhibs]

International football = banned. Club football = not banned.

That article = a load of clickbait *****

[Keith_M]

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No-one has ever been forced to wear a poppy, it has always been a matter of choice. Some dicks criticise folk for not wearing one but you could never be forced to wear one. Your statement seems just as silly as their criticism.

It's quite a common affliction to take a comment or statement our of context then judge the person on part of that statement.

Might I suggest reading through the comment I was responding to and then re-read my reply, before you decide that what I said was 'silly'.

[brog]

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I'm getting sick to death that every year this is becoming an issue. It's like it's now a must have fashion item. If folk don't wear one they are slaughtered for it in the press! It's down to personal reasons when folk choose not to or want to and it shouldn't make the papers or news.

I'll wear one on my jacket but not for fashion but for a mark of respect which seems to be getting lost in the political rubbish.

I couldn't care less if the person next to me at work doesn't wear one and I'll not be pestering him why either.

Rant over! 😁

I agree 100% F. It seems to me that tv presenters now start wearing poppies in mid to late October. If you don't wear one on TV you're subjected to all sorts of abuse which is somewhat ironic as this is the kind of fascist behaviour we fought against!! Even more ironic is that one of the major poppy cheerleaders is the Daily Mail, "Hurrah for the blackshirts" & that last month saw the 80th anniversary of the battle of Cable St. I always donate & usually wear a poppy but I hate the crap around it that's emerged in recent years.

[21.5.16]

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Not read any links but heard it in the news driving to work.

I assumed it was due to it being international football where FIFA bans any statement of sorts?

Guaranteed the usual James McLean case will appear in the media over the coming days....

Dont really blame James McClean for not wearing the poppy, he's from Derry members of his family were killed, i dont wear a poppy. But national teams should be able to choose weather they wear the poppy or not and not get abuse for their personal choice

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[NAE NOOKIE]

The poppy is worn to commemorate the war dead .... the last time I looked soldiers, sailors and airmen from these islands did not and do not have a choice as to where they get sent to fight, that insanity is left to the politicians ... sometimes the politicians are right, sometimes they are very, very, wrong .... but no matter what the armed forces think of their decision they have no choice but to go where they are sent.

The poppy is not worn to glorify war or to show support for the decision to take part in any conflict past or present and if that is becoming more and more seen as not being the case its only because people with an agenda have made it so and have themselves deliberately politicised something that was never intended to be and never has been political, at least not in my lifetime. If people don't want to wear a poppy as a matter of individual choice that's absolutely fine, but leave that choice to them and that includes any Scotland player who doesn't want to wear that shirt ... I'm sure the SFA have more than 11 pink shirts.

FIFA are wrong in this instance and they should butt out and get on with sorting out the bloody shambles they have created for themselves instead of getting entirely the wrong end of the stick regarding a symbol they clearly know nothing about.

[StevieC]

My understanding is that it's a blanket ban by FIFA on anything added to International shirts (that may, or may not, be conceived as political). The fact that the poppy falls in to that category appears to have been seized on by the papers in order to sensationalise an issue (and probably sell more papers).

It's not FIFA specifically banning the poppy, per se.

I am guessing that each International strip has to be cleared by FIFA prior to release? So it kinda makes sense to do a blanket ban than have to have a "should they, shouldn't they" discussion every time an association wanted to add something to an already accepted strip design.