I knew we had released him last year but didn't realise he ended up at Crystal Palace.
Is this one we're likely to regret or is the consensus that he wasn't good enough?
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30-10-2016 08:25 PM #1
Kleton Perntreou
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30-10-2016 10:44 PM #2
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One of the interesting ones, they obviously see something in him he has played every Under 23 BPL game this season.
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30-10-2016 11:00 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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31-10-2016 05:52 AM #4
Never thought much of him in the 20s. Lòoked a nervous type and recall at least 3 games, 1 against Hearts, in which he made costly mistakes.
The luxury of being in the money rich EPL for a club like Crystal Palace is it means they can take a punt on a youngish player they may see something they can work with in. For Hibs, where money is very tight, we don't have that option. He was too old for the 20s and not even close to being ready for the 1st team so keeping him wasn't an option.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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31-10-2016 06:07 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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31-10-2016 06:44 AM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If someone hasn't made it by the time they are too old for the 20's in my view they are unlikely too.
All that going back to the reserves would do is give some managers the excuse to clog them up with guys they couldn't make their minds up about and would further stifle young talent that should be breaking through,
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31-10-2016 08:14 AM #10
Great, so you can name half a dozen guys who are very much the exception to the rule.
There are literally thousands of others who have passed through Hibs youth system alone who would prove otherwise.
You could take the youth cup winning team as a prime example.
These guys can be picked up second time around and I have been really pleased that Hibs have casted the net a bit wider with Insall & Peters
Admittedly none of them have worked out (yet with Insall), but then again there hasn't been much came through the youth system for quite a while either
Are you seriously suggesting that we keep our youth players for ever and a day in the hope that one of them may turn out to be the next Jamie Vardy or Darren McGregor?
Its not economically viable for one thing.
If 20's too young to tell, what age would you suggest keeping them to?
23, 25,
You would be extremely hard pushed to name me one player who came through Hibs ranks in the last 20 years who we released who has gone on to make us regret that decision.
Leigh Griffiths is the only one that comes to mind, but as I understand it he was let go at the time for other than footballing reasons, i.e. he was a bammer.
The only other possibilities I can think of are:
Booth
Wotherspoon
Scougall
McNulty?
None of whom would get a game in this Hibs team or many of its predecessorsLast edited by BSEJVT; 31-10-2016 at 08:16 AM.
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31-10-2016 10:15 AM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteSCOTTISH CUP WINNERS 2016
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31-10-2016 10:22 AM #14
Hibs dont have the luxury of being able to keep players past 20 years old.
With no reserve league and no chances in the first team they would be wasted and take up resources that could be used elsewhere.
Unfortunately, with letting 5/6 youngsters go every year, we will let some go who will move onto better things. Majority wont. Just the way things are now that we dont have a reserve league.
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31-10-2016 10:27 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They aren't playing at a significantly better level than we are and afaik both have failed to nail down first team spots and play every week anyway, McNulty being out on loan at the moment iirc to an even lower league club
Who would you drop to accommodate Scougall for example?
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31-10-2016 12:19 PM #17
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Until they are judged unlikely to develop to the standard we require, regardless of age, by those at our club who are qualified to decide.
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31-10-2016 12:51 PM #18
Only saw him once at Central Park I think. He looked very nervous. Not missing out on much by letting him go.
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31-10-2016 01:50 PM #20
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No one has mentioned Ivan Sproule.
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31-10-2016 05:49 PM #22
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McNulty has been loaned to Bradford wo are sitting above Sheff United. In my opinion hes Technically better than JC. Scougall is a great footballer ad would have him playing behind the striker every day of the week. His development was hindered by the new manager but id have him at Hibs any day of the week.
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31-10-2016 08:11 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you are asking me if I think us, Utd and Falkirk (based on last year, I haven't seen them yet this year) at the minimum could more than hold our own in that league the answer would be a resounding yes.
Being a massive club guarantees you nothing.
If Scougall and McNulty are so good why is nobody ever interested in buying them.
Would I swap Scougall for Shinnie, McGinn or Fyvie, not a chance.
How many u21 caps does McNulty have compared to Cummings (this being a non partisan barometer) or how do their respective goal scoring records shape up?
This is a typical case of folk thinking that because joe soap plays in England he must be so much better than what we have in Scotland with nothing but that fanciful idea to back it up.
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