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    catterall knows he won that

    we know he won that


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    Embarrassing decision


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    That’s an absolute joke. It wasn’t even close.

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    Boxing is corrupt surprise. Makes you wonder what the point is.

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    Mental result. As much as I wanted him to win, that's a shocking decision.

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    That's a shocker

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    Big boxing fan but im about to give up on it. So many big decsions over the years but tonight jesus.

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    One thing is certain, there won’t be a rematch.


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    two English judges and one Scottish, i don't think it would be the Scottish judge that gave the 114-111

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    Kidding yersel Josh, no danger did you win it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CmoantheHibs View Post
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    Boxing is corrupt surprise. Makes you wonder what the point is.
    Agree embarrassment of a decision. Shameful

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    He might be a Hibby but that was a scandalous decision.
    Tell you what, he’d make a great Tory MP with that “I totally won that” speech.
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    It is.

    As I said above Andre Ward had it for Taylor though. I think the fact he was walking forward a lot has stolen him 2 or 3 rounds.

    Home town decision though for me. I'd call it that if it was anyone else so not going to be a hypocrite just because it's a guy I like.
    If Ward is scoring it that way then maybe I don't know what I'm taking about. lol. Interesting other people's take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    two English judges and one Scottish, i don't think it would be the Scottish judge that gave the 114-111
    Scottish one was 113 112. The 114 111 scoreline was horrific

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    Catterall not giving an interview


    don't blame him he will be pretty angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Scottish one was 113 112. The 114 111 scoreline was horrific
    Ian John Lewis was that judge, he has history of watching a completely different fight to 99.9% of the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Scottish one was 113 112. The 114 111 scoreline was horrific


    some english boxing fans will hunt him down if he's on twitter


    taylor would certainly do well to stay off it for a day or so
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    I don't watch boxing often, is it always like this? How can anyone take it seriously?

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    wow, i honestly think they dudes want this to go all the way to Westminster


    worzel Johnson will get the final decision

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    CompuBox saw Catterall land 120 of 525 (23%) total punches, and 81 of 267 (30%) of his power punches. Taylor was at 73 of 306 (24%) overall, and 57 of 179 (32%) on power shots. Catterall out-worked and out-landed Taylor on the punch stats.

    If that was a role reversal, and Taylor had been on the end of that decision in England, people on here saying Taylor won that tonight would have been screaming fix.

    As for the judge who had Taylor 114-111, what a farce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee View Post
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    CompuBox saw Catterall land 120 of 525 (23%) total punches, and 81 of 267 (30%) of his power punches. Taylor was at 73 of 306 (24%) overall, and 57 of 179 (32%) on power shots. Catterall out-worked and out-landed Taylor on the punch stats.

    If that was a role reversal, and Taylor had been on the end of that decision in England, people on here saying Taylor won that tonight would have been screaming fix.

    As for the judge who had Taylor 114-111, what a farce!
    To be fair, that's pretty much what everyone IS saying on here, and the fight was in Scotland.

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    MMA > Boxing


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    Taylor will wake up today knowing he is very lucky still to have the belts, thought catterall won but not by as much as some of the sky folk last night, he certainly didnt win the first 6 rounds as a couple of them mentioned, some were very scrappy and even. I said on friday taylor looked very drawn in around the face, the weight is clearly an issue for him now

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    Taylor will wake up today knowing he is very lucky still to have the belts, thought catterall won but not by as much as some of the sky folk last night, he certainly didnt win the first 6 rounds as a couple of them mentioned, some were very scrappy and even. I said on friday taylor looked very drawn in around the face, the weight is clearly an issue for him now
    I doubt we'll see Taylor at 140 again and I doubt he'll go in against someone like Crawford for the 1st time at 147 either.

    He was clearly weight drained this week and I think he underestimated Catterall as well. He went in looking to KO him for the spectacular homecoming and got caught by the same straight left about 25 times when he was jumping in. I didn't much rate the advice coming from his corner either and I'm sceptical about just how good Ben Davison is. Tyson Fury called him 'stale' and Taylor's performance last night certainly looked that.

    Fwiw I agree the decision isn't as big a travesty as some are making out. Catterall won imo but it was a couple of rounds at most. There were 3 or 4 of the 1st 6 rounds you could have scored either way. JC allowed Taylor to win a few of the late rounds, albeit one would be called 9-9 for the points deduction. That probably does Taylor a slight disservice as well as he belatedly changed up enough to start nicking the rounds. Every away boxer knows you can't leave decisions like that to be really close. The crowd react to everything the home fighter does, every puch thrown whether it connects or bounces off arms is treated like a last minute winner and that will sway judges. I also think it's interesting to listen to a 'neutral' perspective as well. By all accounts the UK commentary team were calling it one it one of the worst decisions ever. I watched a US broadcast and whilst very critical of his performance both Andre Ward and Tim Bradley felt Taylor just nicked it.

    It's worth remembering Taylor had a bad camp as well. A knee injury, covid and a chest infection all set him back. He looked ill all week. I also think he'd like to remain more active going forward.

    I wasn't able to make it along last night, the 1st Taylor fight in the UK I have missed, so my perspective may be a bit skewed but everything about him just seemed off. Hopefully he can make a decision on the weight and get back in the ring by the autumn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    I doubt we'll see Taylor at 140 again and I doubt he'll go in against someone like Crawford for the 1st time at 147 either.

    He was clearly weight drained this week and I think he underestimated Catterall as well. He went in looking to KO him for the spectacular homecoming and got caught by the same straight left about 25 times when he was jumping in. I didn't much rate the advice coming from his corner either and I'm sceptical about just how good Ben Davison is. Tyson Fury called him 'stale' and Taylor's performance last night certainly looked that.

    Fwiw I agree the decision isn't as big a travesty as some are making out. Catterall won imo but it was a couple of rounds at most. There were 3 or 4 of the 1st 6 rounds you could have scored either way. JC allowed Taylor to win a few of the late rounds, albeit one would be called 9-9 for the points deduction. That probably does Taylor a slight disservice as well as he belatedly changed up enough to start nicking the rounds. Every away boxer knows you can't leave decisions like that to be really close. The crowd react to everything the home fighter does, every puch thrown whether it connects or bounces off arms is treated like a last minute winner and that will sway judges. I also think it's interesting to listen to a 'neutral' perspective as well. By all accounts the UK commentary team were calling it one it one of the worst decisions ever. I watched a US broadcast and whilst very critical of his performance both Andre Ward and Tim Bradley felt Taylor just nicked it.

    It's worth remembering Taylor had a bad camp as well. A knee injury, covid and a chest infection all set him back. He looked ill all week. I also think he'd like to remain more active going forward.

    I wasn't able to make it along last night, the 1st Taylor fight in the UK I have missed, so my perspective may be a bit skewed but everything about him just seemed off. Hopefully he can make a decision on the weight and get back in the ring by the autumn.
    Yip cant see him at this weight again, struggling to make weight takes its toll eventually, i seen a reference to davidson as a boxercise coach last night and im not so sure myself if he has the qualities that taylor needs in a coach, he needs to have a serious think soon if he does go up in weight, hopefully its a one off bad night at the office and he goes up in weight and wins another belt

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    Comfortable victory for Lawrence Okolie

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    Boxing Board now investigating the decision to award Taylor the win

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    Taylor would need to improve ten fold to have any chance against Crawford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunasBoots View Post
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    Boxing Board now investigating the decision to award Taylor the win
    I expect they'd uphold the decision. Tell us the judges justified their scores and there is nothing amiss, and that will be that. Decision awarded and ratified.

    All us regular punters that watched the fight, and find the decision an embarrassment, clearly aren't qualified to call it.

    Edit: I note from the article they don't have the power to overturn the decision in any case.
    Last edited by Wilson; 28-02-2022 at 01:03 PM.

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    OMFG House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat (msn.com)


    i joked about this in the minutes after the fight finished, they've only gone and done it my goodness



    House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat

    Sir Lindsay Hoyle, who is Catterall’s MP, has written to both Dame Cressida Dick, the outgoing Scotland Yard commissioner, and the British Boxing Board of Control to express his outrage.


    Hoyle is a total f*d anyway

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