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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    There does seem to be more this year than I have ever heard of.
    Think it may be down to social media and the fact we hear more about it now, I was reading on average 13 boxers die in the ring each year


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4 View Post
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    Think it may be down to social media and the fact we hear more about it now, I was reading on average 13 boxers die in the ring each year
    I am ambivalent on boxing. On a rational level, the thought of two guys (now women too) trying to punch each other unconscious is morally indefensible, in my opinion. On the other hand, their skill and courage is admirable, and I watch some big fights. It's something I know I shouldn't enjoy, but I sometimes do. If boxing was banned, I couldn't offer an ethical objection; it seems almost every medical association in the world wants it stopped. The long term effects of boxing can be devastating. Then there's the promoters and others making big money via young men putting their health and lives at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4 View Post
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    Think it may be down to social media and the fact we hear more about it now, I was reading on average 13 boxers die in the ring each year
    Yes you’re probably right, like most things we think are on the increase compared to years ago, it’s more likely we just know more now due to social media.

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    It’s fight week!
    Who’s all heading down to the big smoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    It’s fight week!
    Who’s all heading down to the big smoke?
    Yep, heading down on the train on saturday and flying back up Sunday, can't wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    It’s fight week!
    Who’s all heading down to the big smoke?
    Wish I was but need to be in Newcastle for the weekend.

    Buzzing for watching it on TV though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4 View Post
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    Yep, heading down on the train on saturday and flying back up Sunday, can't wait
    I’m on the 0652 train. Pals are heading down Friday night. Can’t wait to noise up the Chisora fans 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frazerbob View Post
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    It’s fight week!
    Who’s all heading down to the big smoke?
    Early train Friday, back Sunday.

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    Down early Saturday, 0830 train with half the pans on it, back Sunday afternoon.

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    It’s fight week!
    Who’s all heading down to the big smoke?
    Four of us on the 8.30am Saturday. Back late Sunday afternoon.

    Ironed and hung up my clothes, carryout chilling in the fridge. Buzzing for it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by May2116 View Post
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    Down early Saturday, 0830 train with half the pans on it, back Sunday afternoon.
    This is the train to be on by the looks of it. Will be wild

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    What time is the Taylor fight scheduled to start?

    Might be wrong, but is this the first time that he isn’t favourite to win? Bookies have Prograis as favourite. Tempted to put some cash on Josh to win as the prices look decent.
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    Taylor made weight, Prograis had to take his boxers off to make the weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc rd View Post
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    What time is the Taylor fight scheduled to start?

    Might be wrong, but is this the first time that he isn’t favourite to win? Bookies have Prograis as favourite. Tempted to put some cash on him to win as the prices look decent.
    Should be about 10/10.30 buddy

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    What time is the Taylor fight scheduled to start?

    Might be wrong, but is this the first time that he isn’t favourite to win? Bookies have Prograis as favourite. Tempted to put some cash on Josh to win as the prices look decent.
    Ohara incredibly was favourite to beat him 2 years ago. Josh was 6/4 that night also.

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    I am ambivalent on boxing. On a rational level, the thought of two guys (now women too) trying to punch each other unconscious is morally indefensible, in my opinion. On the other hand, their skill and courage is admirable, and I watch some big fights. It's something I know I shouldn't enjoy, but I sometimes do. If boxing was banned, I couldn't offer an ethical objection; it seems almost every medical association in the world wants it stopped. The long term effects of boxing can be devastating. Then there's the promoters and others making big money via young men putting their health and lives at risk.
    Why they don't enforce the wearing of protective headgear in boxing is something I really cannot understand.

    It's not going to take anything away from the spectacle of boxing, the boxers will still be able to knock lumps out of each other but it will help to save lives.

    I understand the argument put forward which is the boxers know what they are getting themselves in for but I don't think that's enough of an excuse for the governing bodies not to make it as safe as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    Why they don't enforce the wearing of protective headgear in boxing is something I really cannot understand.

    It's not going to take anything away from the spectacle of boxing, the boxers will still be able to knock lumps out of each other but it will help to save lives.

    I understand the argument put forward which is the boxers know what they are getting themselves in for but I don't think that's enough of an excuse for the governing bodies not to make it as safe as possible.
    They restrict the fighters view, that’s not really desirable in Pro boxing.
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    Why they don't enforce the wearing of protective headgear in boxing is something I really cannot understand.

    It's not going to take anything away from the spectacle of boxing, the boxers will still be able to knock lumps out of each other but it will help to save lives.

    I understand the argument put forward which is the boxers know what they are getting themselves in for but I don't think that's enough of an excuse for the governing bodies not to make it as safe as possible.
    There's evidence that headguards don't actually prevent brain injury and concussion. They reduce cuts and bruises so the aesthetics are better but studies have shown that the bigger target means boxers attempt more head shots. Secondly it gives a false sense of security and thirdly the shaking motion when a punch connects with the guard can also increase the risk of brain injury.

    There's various studies that show that wearing headguards offers no noticeable decrease in the risk of brain injury and in fact shows a small drop in the occurence. These studies were a huge part of the reasoning when the AIBA removed headguards from men's amateur boxing. The flip side is there is a big increase in broken noses, cuts and other superficial traumas.

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    They restrict the fighters view, that’s not really desirable in Pro boxing.
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    There's evidence that headguards don't actually prevent brain injury and concussion. They reduce cuts and bruises so the aesthetics are better but studies have shown that the bigger target means boxers attempt more head shots. Secondly it gives a false sense of security and thirdly the shaking motion when a punch connects with the guard can also increase the risk of brain injury.

    There's various studies that show that wearing headguards offers no noticeable ecrease in the risk of brain injury and in fact shows a small drop in the occurence. These studies were a huge part of the reasoning when the AIBA removed headguards from men's amateur boxing. The flip side is there is a big increase in broken noses, cuts and other superficial traumas.
    Fair enough. I just thought it may have been a suggestion since I knew that they used to wear headgear in amateur boxing although I'm sure I read that this has now stopped and presumably it was for the reasons stated above.

    I don't really know what the answer is then except to ban blows to the head or to ban boxing altogether, neither of which is likely to happen.

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    Does anyone know any pubs in Edinburgh definitely showing the fight tonight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Does anyone know any pubs in Edinburgh definitely showing the fight tonight?
    Malones will have it on.

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    Fly half are definitely showing it as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by May2116 View Post
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    Ohara incredibly was favourite to beat him 2 years ago. Josh was 6/4 that night also.
    Seems ridiculous in retrospect, was there that night and he absolutely skelped Davies!

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    Robbie's and Theatre Royal definitely have it on.

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    Taylor to win on points 2/1 on Skybet

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    Really entertaining heavyweight fight. Chisora just bulldozed Price.

    My favourite weight class.

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    Got £50 on Prograis at 11/10 but really want Josh to win.

    Great guy, buzzing for it
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    Come on Josh.

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    Come on Taylor!

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