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    Quote Originally Posted by HiBremian View Post
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    Fixed that for you
    Thank you.

    I am now coming to terms with the fact that the second world war finished more than 50 years ago. It seems like yesterday, the way people talk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    He died more than 50 years ago!!
    Long-Bailey isnít fit to work in the Westminster gift shop - if Momentum pish her through then Cummings is running the UK for at least twenty years


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Long-Bailey isn’t fit to work in the Westminster gift shop - if Momentum pish her through then Cummings is running the UK for at least twenty years
    I'm a former Labour member and unfortunately you're correct. She's continuity Corbyn, out of touch and hopeless and won't apologise or criticise the overloaded manifesto.
    Also hate to say it but her accent will go down like a bucket of vomit with many of the people Labour need to vote for them as they'll think she sounds like a barmaid from the Rovers Return.

    Starmer is racing ahead however and it looks like he'll be leader by April. Hopefully the first thing he'll do is show the door to Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbot and Burgon who have all been an absolute liability.
    Starmer might well win the votes needed to drag Labour back (at least in England and Wales) and he's getting support from the left of the party (who appear to have finally realised it's not much fun getting gubbed in elections) as well as the centrists and looks like a leader and someone who could actually call out BoJo's nonsense and lies.

    Although even though she has shown her ignorance of Scottish politics, Nandy's an interesting character and her time may well come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyM_1875 View Post
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    I'm a former Labour member and unfortunately you're correct. She's continuity Corbyn, out of touch and hopeless and won't apologise or criticise the overloaded manifesto.
    Also hate to say it but her accent will go down like a bucket of vomit with many of the people Labour need to vote for them as they'll think she sounds like a barmaid from the Rovers Return.

    Starmer is racing ahead however and it looks like he'll be leader by April. Hopefully the first thing he'll do is show the door to Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbot and Burgon who have all been an absolute liability.
    Starmer might well win the votes needed to drag Labour back (at least in England and Wales) and he's getting support from the left of the party (who appear to have finally realised it's not much fun getting gubbed in elections) as well as the centrists and looks like a leader and someone who could actually call out BoJo's nonsense and lies.

    Although even though she has shown her ignorance of Scottish politics, Nandy's an interesting character and her time may well come.
    Agree with all of that. Starmer is smart and has played his hand to attract centre and left. He could do with some charisma but I think heíll be good at disection borisís bull****. I hope he will bring in Yvette Cooper for similar effect. He could do with working on his charisma, though!!

    Nandy looked good but she has been a bit niave to walk into the trans elephant trap that the press set her up for. RLB would be a disaster.

    Deputy leader list is a bit ****, though.

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    Ballots are out.

    Donít understand why this is taking so long and why Corbyn hasnít stepped down in favour of an interim like Hariett Harman as in the last two emptying of the duds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Ballots are out.

    Donít understand why this is taking so long and why Corbyn hasnít stepped down in favour of an interim like Hariett Harman as in the last two emptying of the duds.
    Heís still hoping to have control if RLB get the gig.


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    Ballots are out.

    Don’t understand why this is taking so long and why Corbyn hasn’t stepped down in favour of an interim like Hariett Harman as in the last two emptying of the duds.
    It's absurd. More than a month of this still to go. Hardly the way to be 'holding the PM to account' by taking four months to find a new leader.

    My impression of Corbyn is that he's actually a bit dim. Either that or he has a huge ego and sees no reason why leading Labour to their worst General Election result in nearly a century would in any way oblige him to to step down with immediate effect. I note, in fact, that he's lobbying for a spot in the new shadow cabinet - not something you can imagine many other party leaders past their sell-by date having the brass neck to do. The sad thing is that were RLB to become leader she'd probably agree to keep him on board, bearing in mind that she gave him 'ten out of ten' when asked about his leadership skills in the wake of their election trouncing.

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    It's absurd. More than a month of this still to go. Hardly the way to be 'holding the PM to account' by taking four months to find a new leader.

    My impression of Corbyn is that he's actually a bit dim. Either that or he has a huge ego and sees no reason why leading Labour to their worst General Election result in nearly a century would in any way oblige him to to step down with immediate effect. I note, in fact, that he's lobbying for a spot in the new shadow cabinet - not something you can imagine many other party leaders past their sell-by date having the brass neck to do. The sad thing is that were RLB to become leader she'd probably agree to keep him on board, bearing in mind that she gave him 'ten out of ten' when asked about his leadership skills in the wake of their election trouncing.
    It's more simple than that. The party machinery is currently in the hands of his hard left chums. They are trying to keep it that way hoping for a smooth transition to RLB. They will lose Corbyn but not Corbynism (they hope).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    It's more simple than that. The party machinery is currently in the hands of his hard left chums. They are trying to keep it that way hoping for a smooth transition to RLB. They will lose Corbyn but not Corbynism (they hope).
    Not if my vote makes a difference - mind you it made **** all difference in the last two leadships elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    Not if my vote makes a difference - mind you it made **** all difference in the last two leadships elections.
    Democracy, bloody hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataplana View Post
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    Democracy, bloody hell.
    I blame the Chartists!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colr View Post
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    I blame the Chartists!!
    Splitters!

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    It's more simple than that. The party machinery is currently in the hands of his hard left chums. They are trying to keep it that way hoping for a smooth transition to RLB. They will lose Corbyn but not Corbynism (they hope).
    Machinery is an apt word when referring to Corbynism. It's like a pre-programmed, unbending mantra that requires no upgrade even in the event of a calamitous general election pasting. The ideology is everything, unelectability a mere inconvenience. Corbyn himself was pre-set in the generalised way he responded to any question that focused on issues he didn't want to talk about eg Q: Do you condemn anti-Semitism in the Labour Party? A: I am against all forms of racism.

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