What's he got to do to get a start? (Fabulous) goal aside, I thought Cummings was very poor today, and Shinnie didn't impress much either (first time I've seen him - happy to be told it was unlike him). Also: now Henderson's gone, Keatings is by far the best corner taker - gives us a real threat.
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17-09-2016 10:47 PM #1
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18-09-2016 08:12 AM #4
If we can't deliver a decent cross then I'd rather go with Keatings up top with Cummings than Holt or Graham.
That said, Keatings can whip in a good ball, so can we find a way for him to play with one of the big lads and Cummings? At home to Ayr, I'd have thought we could have managed a front three with Fyvie or Marv dropping out...
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It's the Riordan/work rate nonsense all over again.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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18-09-2016 08:32 AM #6
Keatings usually scores when he gets a run if starts as a striker. Deserves a start next week instead of holt?
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18-09-2016 11:16 AM #7
Keatings never set the Heather alight when he was starting the first few games of season. I like him but he needs to contribute more when on the field - even yesterday although he came on when we were down to 10...he didn't exactly stand out from the crowd...
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18-09-2016 11:25 AM #9
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This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLast edited by B.H.F.C; 18-09-2016 at 11:28 AM.
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18-09-2016 11:29 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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He offered great movement, generally keeps the ball and scored a great goal. Missed one other good chance yes but did his job better than virtually any other player in our team
I don't know what you were watching.
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18-09-2016 11:47 AM #13
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shinnie is reasonably tall tall lad and not bad in the air, Keats and Cummings up front would give us pace and power from Keatings, coupled with the shark like mentality of Cummings... Shinnie can take the aerial responsibility.
As someone earlier stated, our cross hasn't been up to standard so let's try something different.
i think Lennon's tactic of having a taller forward up top from the start then adding pace later on has its merits... as pace when the opponents are tired should be useful but I think we should be exploiting our pacey players from the start.... either Boyle or Keatings then one or the other can come off the bench when the latter is tiring.... or stick on the taller forwards and start throwing crosses in.....
Thoughts?
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i also think Lennon needs to change it up against QoS next week as they already know our game and have beaten us.
PPS... I also think it's still early in the season to be criticising Cummings... especially when I think he hasn't been firing on all cylinders all season.... and has still managed 8 goals so far. I think a Lacey partner up front would cause enough hassle for opposing defences that Cummings would get a bit more space and time to be more decisive in front of goal. Trust me when I say Cummings has a whole lot more to come.Last edited by BlackSheep; 18-09-2016 at 11:52 AM.
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18-09-2016 01:52 PM #14
What is it with folk wanting Holt dropped. I must be watching a different team. Holt occupies both centre backs and it's no coincidence Cummings has so many goals, and should have had more, because of this. Holt is a very strong, clever player. Opinions eh!!
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18-09-2016 02:03 PM #15
Keatings could be given a chance in the hole as they say .. but there is no chance of Cummings being dropped, he is there to score goals and that's what he has been doing, I wouldn't say he was as bad as some folk are making out yesterday either, in fact he had a few passes and lay offs that put us in decent positions.
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18-09-2016 02:13 PM #16
I wouldn't drop Cummings whilst he's the man getting the bulk of our goals again. Keatings is a good maker and taker of chances who I'd love to see get more games, him and Cummings together wouldn't be a problem for me if they got the right service.
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18-09-2016 02:37 PM #17
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I thought Shinnie should not have been out for the second half ! He was woeful in the first and got worse after the break, Keatings should have replaced him at half time. It does concern me that Lennon kept Shinnie on for so long when we had MCgeough Keatings and Boyle on the bench !!
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18-09-2016 03:22 PM #18
Any of the stato's give some comparison figures on Cummings and keatings ??
total minutes played
shots on target
goals
goals per minute played
they are different types of player but this might be an interesting comparison
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18-09-2016 03:33 PM #19
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18-09-2016 04:43 PM #20
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These are from the last 2 full championship seasons and this season. Keatings season at Hearts are included to give a better comparison.
Keatings
Appearances - 65
Goals - 22
Assists - 12
Minutes Played - 3350
Average of 1 goal every 152 Minutes
Highest bid received - £0
Cummings
Appearance - 78
Goals - 45
Assists - 14
Minutes Played - 5758
Average of 1 goal every 127 Minutes
Highest bid received - £1,700,000
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18-09-2016 05:08 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Cummings is improving his all round game whilst maintaining a phenomenal scoring ratio. To pick him out as a failure yesterday (after scoring in the 6th league game in a row) is grossly unfair.
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18-09-2016 05:13 PM #22
Can't help wondering what some of our on board experts would have thought of my avatar Ally McLeod when he was in his pomp.......
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18-09-2016 06:17 PM #24
Keatings needs to start more regularly, Cummings scores goals but gives us nothing else. I honestly think Keatings would score a barrowload for us. Cummings cannot be complained about though as goals is what it's about and he's the only one that's doing it but he frustrates me week in week out a short he gives us nothing in general play.
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18-09-2016 07:34 PM #25
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19-09-2016 09:23 AM #27
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Serious question.
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19-09-2016 09:58 AM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Cummings is scoring goals so shouldn't be dropped;
Holt is what we've been needing for a while - big striker who occupies the Centre Halfs and can hold the ball up;
I don't see a Cummings / Keatings partnership being more effective.
The issue is that the set up play is either poor or too slow which, added to us being poor shooting from distance and at direct free kicks in Beckham territory, is why we're not scoring enough.
Gray and Stevenson are full backs not wing backs so we're not stretching teams wide or getting quality crosses in.
Which leaves McGinn and Shinnie trying to thread balls past 11 men in the box and hit a striker.
Not convinced Keatings would do a significantly better job at that.
Fwiw - if we created chances and stuck him up front I think he's also score a hatful.
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19-09-2016 03:44 PM #29
Im no football genius, but I'd assume that Cummings just being on the pitch ties up a couple of opposition defenders, thus reducing their overall impact in other areas of the game?
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19-09-2016 03:51 PM #30
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