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    Hands on Hibs

    Mind all that business, eh?

    Two years ago they were leading a full scale insurrection against the club, including highly personal attacks on Petrie and STF.

    What I didn't fully appreciate at the time is that they did the same the last time we were relegated.

    Back in 1998, Stuart Crowther and others were trying to get STF to sell up to Brian Kennedy

    In 2014, it was a platform for Simon Pia to mouth off and various chancers to try their luck at getting control of the club for a song. They tried to derail the share issue and cause as much trouble as possible.

    Their last activity seemed to have been the food bank collection in Dec 2015, and then they fizzled out.

    STF's quarter century as owner has been eventful. His detachment has been frustrating at times but has perhaps enabled him to see the bigger picture. His obvious pride in winning the Scottish Cup was good to see and richly deserved.


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    Not seen him in public for a while - what has Sir T had to say about cup win ? Was he at the final ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougier45 View Post
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    Not seen him in public for a while - what has Sir T had to say about cup win ? Was he at the final ?
    Yes I think so and he was at the City Chambers presentation on the Sunday, clearly enjoying the occasion as you would expect.

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    I think the new HoH and the previous version were quite different groups led by different people although there may have been some crossover in personnel.

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    Pretty sure I saw him on the open top bus although I might have been a little bit drunk.


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    The rally after the last relegation helped 'encourage' Petrie and co to appoint Dempster and Stubbs.
    "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Pretty sure I saw him on the open top bus although I might have been a little bit drunk.


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    Yep definitely on the bus.

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    Sir Tom was at ER for the Morton game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    The rally after the last relegation helped 'encourage' Petrie and co to appoint Dempster and Stubbs.
    Not true.

    Seh was already appointed, pretty certain she was appointed around March/April

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    The rally after the last relegation helped 'encourage' Petrie and co to appoint Dempster and Stubbs.
    Dempster was already in here when the rally took place. She'd accepted the job a couple of months before we got relegated.

    In fact, she was having a meeting inside Easter Road with various supporters while the rally was taking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    The rally after the last relegation helped 'encourage' Petrie and co to appoint Dempster and Stubbs.
    No it didn't. Dempster was appointed and announced on the official site over a month prior to relegation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig_HFC View Post
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    Dempster was already in here when the rally took place. She'd accepted the job a couple of months before we got relegated.

    In fact, she was having a meeting inside Easter Road with various supporters while the rally was taking place.
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    No it didn't. Dempster was appointed and announced on the official site over a month prior to relegation.

    See! ;)

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    Hibstory eh? There's more that unites us than divides us - scapegoating excepted ;)
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    At the time the rally was held it was entirely appropriate. The club had been allowed to flounder for years since the heady days of 2007 and IMO fans were rightly questioning why someone ( STF ) would be the owner of a football club but be so apparently indifferent to the fact that it was failing .... even if that was more due to a lack of communication than his actual lack of input behind the scenes doesn't matter, it looked like apathy and the fans ( myself included ) were rightly angry about it.
    It may have been the case that certain folk with an agenda or an axe to grind were taking advantage of the situation at that time, but its too easy to forget that it wasn't them who created the situation in the first place.

    When you look back to that time it makes it all the more impressive to see the minor miracle Leanne Dempster has achieved since she walked through the door. Not even due to the fact that we have finally laid to rest the Scottish cup curse, but to the fact that even before that happened she had managed to get the club and the fans back on the same side and had installed a positive vibe around the place .... the fact that that vibe is getting stronger in spite of the fact that we are in our third season in the Championship is nothing short of remarkable, though I wont for a second deny that winning the cup has gone a long way to making that the case.

    There is no doubt that this is a watershed season for the Leanne Dempster revolution ...... As far as the feel good factor and fan engagement is concerned I cant remember a better time in the last 40 years, with the possible exception of Mowbray's team .... But fail to get promoted this year and the whole thing could collapse like a house of cards.

    Season 1 ...... Not going up could be excused, the club started the season as a basket case and with Hearts and Sevco in the league our chances of going up were probably less than 50/50

    Season 2 ..... Sevco were considerably stronger, Falkirk decided to have their best season in years and we hit our first mini collapse since Stubbs had come in, add to that we ran out of luck ( thanks Mr Muir & Mr Thomson ) in the play off semi and even then some fans might have turned. But winning the cup made the bad vibes disappear and the fans would probably have forgiven the club anything in return for that magnificent day.

    Season 3 .... We have the team, we have the manager, we have as big crowds as we have had in decades, there is no Hearts or Sevco in the league. This time there will be no forgiveness, no excuses and no amount of cup wins will save the day ... promotion is the be all and end all, make it and the vast majority of current ST holders will renew, a couple of more thousand new ones will probably join them and walk ups will be at a decent level .... we could easily be looking at an average of 16,000 in our first season back in the premiership with a number of capacity 20,000 gates during the season. Unthinkable two or three years ago, in fact unthinkable at any time in the last 30 years. There would be no limit as to what we could achieve.

    Fail and the club will be nearly back at square one .... our best players will leave or we will be forced to accept any reasonable offer, we will undoubtedly be looking for yet another new manager and we will be likely looking at crowds of 7,000 or so again.

    This is a HUGE season for Hibs which could affect the fortunes of the club for the next 10 years or more. Sorry, off topic a bit, but it all relates.

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    The rally was right for the time. I hardly think it's appropriate to start pointing fingers at people who whinged the loudest when things were as bleak as they were. People had every right to feel how they felt at the time, even if others were more apathetic.

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    My memory might be a bit sketchy, but I remember the first hands on hibs campaign being about keeping us at Easter Road. There was a strong possibility of us moving to straiton rather than develop Easter Road. I supported the first one and think it's unfair to compare the 2. Apologies if I've got things mixed up.

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    Stuart Crowther! There's a name I haven't seen in a while! Anyone know what he's up to these days? And Trevor Hannant too?

    Have to say I'm not sure he was linked to Brads group but happy to be proved wrong

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    The rally was right for the time. I hardly think it's appropriate to start pointing fingers at people who whinged the loudest when things were as bleak as they were. People had every right to feel how they felt at the time, even if others were more apathetic.
    Exactly - the club was been poorly run on the pitch and behind the scenes.

    There is no coincidence that since we have brought in people who know what they are doing we have seen success and a better team.

    Though like someone says above - this season is massive and a league title is vital for the feel good factor and future of our club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High-On-Hibs View Post
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    The rally was right for the time. I hardly think it's appropriate to start pointing fingers at people who whinged the loudest when things were as bleak as they were. People had every right to feel how they felt at the time, even if others were more apathetic.
    The rally was the right thing to do.
    It wasn't really anything to do with the newer version of Hands on Hibs though. Paul Kane's group were driving it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougier45 View Post
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    Not seen him in public for a while - what has Sir T had to say about cup win ? Was he at the final ?
    He was on the bus on the Sunday. Got a few good pics of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    He was on the bus on the Sunday. Got a few good pics of him.
    Well done. I was incapable of holding a camera the next day. There was a brief moment when the hangover went away and the Sunday bevvy kicked in, but I was needing a piss at the time and the moment passed

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    My memory might be a bit sketchy, but I remember the first hands on hibs campaign being about keeping us at Easter Road. There was a strong possibility of us moving to straiton rather than develop Easter Road. I supported the first one and think it's unfair to compare the 2. Apologies if I've got things mixed up.
    Aye the first Hands on Hibs was about staying at ER.

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    Holding a protest rally outside ER after years of decline resulting in relegation was entirely understandable.

    Most people were sickened by the fact that Petrie had overseen it all and thought he should have resigned. That was, and remains, my view as well.

    Dempster has done a fantastic job, of that there is no doubt, but Petrie is now more tolerated than lauded by the support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    Aye the first Hands on Hibs was about staying at ER.
    That's the way I remember it. At the time a surprising amount of people were in favour of moving to straiton. I remember seeing the plans and thinking it looked a great idea. It wasn't until the reality of what it meant sunk in that I realised what a catastrophic move it would have been. Hibs away from Easter Road is unthinkable now and the original hands on hibs deserves credit and certainly shouldn't be compared to the latest incarnation and their lunatic ramblings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    My memory might be a bit sketchy, but I remember the first hands on hibs campaign being about keeping us at Easter Road. There was a strong possibility of us moving to straiton rather than develop Easter Road. I supported the first one and think it's unfair to compare the 2. Apologies if I've got things mixed up.
    1990 Hands off Hibs (anti Mercer)
    1998 Hands on Hibs I (anti Farmer)
    2003 Stand up and be Counted (anti Straiton)
    2014 Hands on Hibs II (anti Farmer)

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    Wasn't there an earlier anti-Straiton campaign in the mid 1990s called Frustraiton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlad View Post
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    1990 Hands off Hibs (anti Mercer)
    1998 Hands on Hibs I (anti Farmer)
    2003 Stand up and be Counted (anti Straiton)
    2014 Hands on Hibs II (anti Farmer)
    Stand up and be counted! That was it, my memory isn't what it was. That was a campaign we should all be thankful for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    Stand up and be counted! That was it, my memory isn't what it was. That was a campaign we should all be thankful for.
    Are you sure that was anti-Straiton? I don't remember Straiton cropping up again after the new main stand was built in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    Are you sure that was anti-Straiton? I don't remember Straiton cropping up again after the new main stand was built in 2001.
    2003 does seem a bit late...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson View Post
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    2003 does seem a bit late...
    It did resurface around 2003 after heavy losses during the McLeish and Sauzee era. Eventually the point was made that Straiton was unacceptable to the fans.

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