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    Do Hearts count empty season ticket holders' seats in the official attendance?

    Caught a few glimpses of the Hearts v Celtic game earlier and there looked to be scores of empty seats, yet the attendance is given as 16,777 which can't be far off capacity at Tynecastle.

    Out of interest, are season ticket holders automatically counted as 'in attendance' even if their seat is empty? If so, does that mean every home crowd we have at ER this season will automatically be at least 10,700?


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    Perhaps they do but to be fair there are many clubs who count season ticket holder seats in their attendances even if they don't attend a certain match

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    Caught a few glimpses of the Hearts v Celtic game earlier and there looked to be scores of empty seats, yet the attendance is given as 16,777 which can't be far off capacity at Tynecastle.

    Out of interest, are season ticket holders automatically counted as 'in attendance' even if their seat is empty? If so, does that mean every home crowd we have at ER this season will automatically be at least 10,700?
    As far as I remember when debated the last time they count season tickets whether they are there or not. We only give the attendance at the game.

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    This has been discussed lots of time. Hearts always announce tickets sold not the actual attendance. But what difference does it make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theinsider View Post
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    As far as I remember when debated the last time they count season tickets whether they are there or not. We only give the attendance at the game.




    In saying that, though, it'd be churlish to deny their attendances have been anything other than decent the last few seasons.


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    The difference is notable when you get the attendance numbers for home supporters in cup games

    So they have to pay less to the opposition

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    Quote Originally Posted by G B Young View Post
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    Caught a few glimpses of the Hearts v Celtic game earlier and there looked to be scores of empty seats, yet the attendance is given as 16,777 which can't be far off capacity at Tynecastle.

    Out of interest, are season ticket holders automatically counted as 'in attendance' even if their seat is empty? If so, does that mean every home crowd we have at ER this season will automatically be at least 10,700?
    Hearts obviously do, how else can they expect to have "yet another full house " every home game.
    You have got to remember that some of these muppets ,in their blind loyalty to the cause ,purchase more than one season ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolm-bogie View Post
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    Hearts obviously do, how else can they expect to have "yet another full house " every home game.
    You have got to remember that some of these muppets ,in their blind loyalty to the cause ,purchase more than one season ticket.
    Anyone know what game had the pbs highest attendance last season
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Anyone know what game had the pbs highest attendance last season
    Oh oh me me I know

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    Hearts obviously do, how else can they expect to have "yet another full house " every home game.
    You have got to remember that some of these muppets ,in their blind loyalty to the cause ,purchase more than one season ticket.
    Aye because buying a ticket for your mother and sister is basically the same person

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    They always do this, they are cheats but can't explain when confronted with it, they don't turn up against Celtic anyway due to the inevitable outcome. The only time is was at capacity is when we played St Johnstone.

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    hertz will probably have full houses in all games v the old squirm this season....it still won't beat the real full house we had against st.johnstone last season at the wonga dome :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    hertz will probably have full houses in all games v the old squirm this season....it still won't beat the real full house we had against st.johnstone last season at the wonga dome :)
    They will never have a full house at any league at Tynie this season. As they have a large segregation area in the roseburn stand

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    Surely an attendance is exactly that, those that attend! Yamenomics as per usual!

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    It just seems to me it says something about a club when it has to pretend and exaggerate the size of its home attendances. To be fair, it's not that their attendances are poor. So why lie/pretend/exaggerate?

    I'm sure the shrinks have a word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Anyone know what game had the pbs highest attendance last season
    Was it their 2-0 triumph over us in the Scottish Cup?

    I'm glad I missed the last fifteen minutes of that game.
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    Was it their 2-0 triumph over us in the Scottish Cup?

    I'm glad I missed the last fifteen minutes of that game.
    It was a nightmare. Couldn't stay till the end either. Couldn't even bring myself to look at the final score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    It was a nightmare. Couldn't stay till the end either. Couldn't even bring myself to look at the final score.
    Fair weather fans. We fought well in those 10 minutes, shame we couldn't score and went out. But fair play to them, they did go a long way in the tournament .......... didn't they? 😱

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    It just seems to me it says something about a club when it has to pretend and exaggerate the size of its home attendances. To be fair, it's not that their attendances are poor. So why lie/pretend/exaggerate?

    I'm sure the shrinks have a word for it.
    It's called having a small cock and wanting to **** your sister while your old man cheers on with bottle of buckie. AKA 'the Gorgie disease.'

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    This has been discussed lots of time. Hearts always announce tickets sold not the actual attendance. But what difference does it make.
    Think that they had an extra 1 today. Paterson was in the crowd a few times taking his classy long thrown ins. Dont know if he was counted ir not!

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    How many games in a row have they failed to beat Celtic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edson Arantes View Post
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    How much more damn petty can football fansites become?

    We do the same with ST holders.

    Give it a friggin rest.

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    We don't, we only count attendees whether paying with a season ticket or at the gate.

    We do not count empty seats.

    "Give it a friggin rest" to quote yourself.

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    [QUOTE=Edson Arantes;4784725]How much more damn petty can football fansites become?

    We do the same with ST holders.

    Give it a friggin rest


    Virtually every team in England counts its gates including all tickets sold so season ticket holders not taking up their seat for a game are included.

    Whether Hibs will this season will remain to be seen but up until last season we certainly didn't. We had over 8000 season ticket holders didn't we? Our gates against Livingston and Dumbarton were 7,289 and 6,686 respectively so clearly non attending season tickets weren't being counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatHead View Post
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    We don't, we only count attendees whether paying with a season ticket or at the gate.

    We do not count empty seats.

    "Give it a friggin rest" to quote yourself.
    Just tried to reply and see Pele's removed it. Yet another confrontational post from the great man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    Just tried to reply and see Pele's removed it. Yet another confrontational post from the great man.
    He canny get it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    He canny get it up
    😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys View Post
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    He canny get it up
    Totally in context as per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edson Arantes View Post
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    Totally in context as per.
    Thanks

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    Think that they had an extra 1 today. Paterson was in the crowd a few times taking his classy long thrown ins. Dont know if he was counted ir not!
    Yeah, and he had his foot on the line for every one of them - foul throws are never given at Tynecastle nor mentioned by the commentators.

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    How many games in a row have they failed to beat Celtic
    They said 16 on Sky - would be nice to see them pass the 22 mark!

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