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    **** off Alan Muir......

    ......you're a cheating ****.


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    There is no doubt the blatant penalty that was not given by him leaves a sour note to the play offs. Assuming we had scored the penalty and being 3-1 up and taken at the very least a one goal advantage into the second game it could have been a wholly different situation. Another SFA Referee who has been shown to be in my opinion- bent. He seen the Falkirk player put his hand on the ball then clear it up the park. Bent is the only word for him.

    In addition Craig Thompson elected not even to book the player who fouled James Keatings when being the last man and denying James a clear goal scoring opportunity. It should by the letter of the law a straight red card. When Stokes kicked the ball away Thompson immediately booked Stokes as it was by the letter of the law a straight yellow card for kicking the ball away. How then was a last man defender not sent off for a straight red card for denying James Keatings a clear goal scoring opportunity. James was clearly going to have a good clear sight of goal when he was fouled.

    Do the SFA Referees have an agenda or is it the SFA who appoint these Referees who call the big blatant decisions wrongly and always the other way against the Hi bees.

    If either of these two massive calls by firstly Muir and secondly by Thompson had been given correctly they would have changed the outcome.

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    We were asked to win a game of football. We failed. Muir is a tit but so is stubbs

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    Refs aren't the reason that we've utterly failed in the league this season.

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    We create enough openings and chances that we should be comfortably winning matches even if Gary Mackay was refereeing.
    Muir was a contributory factor in the outcome alright, but not as much as the inability to turn possession and chances into goals has been this season.

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    Refs aren't the reason that we've utterly failed in the league this season.
    No but they certainly haven't helped our cause with scandalous decisions along the way.

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    Muir was under pressure due to Houston's long and bitter complaints regarding a soft penalty given in a previous match between the two clubs.

    Thomson's anti-Hibs bias is well documented and has been brought to the SFA's attention.

    Of all the referees available on Tuesday and Friday night why were these two chosen for the tie?

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    It was a scandalous call by the ref but refs arent the issue we havent went up, our crap results in the 2nd half of the season are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    Muir was under pressure due to Houston's long and bitter complaints regarding a soft penalty given in a previous match between the two clubs.

    Thomson's anti-Hibs bias is well documented and has been brought to the SFA's attention.

    Of all the referees available on Tuesday and Friday night why were these two chosen for the tie?
    Other than the red card I actually thought Thomson was faultless last night.

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    I despair of this situation. We've had a period of 4/5 years of horrific refereeing decisions. Forster's headed goal at Tynecastle an example which could easily have saved us from relegation for example.

    In this 2 legs we've been denied a blatant penalty twice and Falkirks right back gets away with kicking Henderson off the ball. Same player hits McGinn in the face last night. McCracken should blatantly have been red carded for the penalty. Not even booked and goes on to punch Logan in the face, again no punishment

    Throughout all this Stubbs says nothing, sticking to SFA/SPFL rules. its too late now FFS. Forget the dignified answers and draw attention to this crap.

    Of course we should have been good enough to win despite all this. But again we've been cheated and we've missed any opportunity to impact matters by speaking up earlier.

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    Other than the red card I actually thought Thomson was faultless last night.
    What about the right back bursting McGinns lip or McCracken assaulting out keeper.

    Even if he was faultless other than the red, that's still massive. An hour with 10 men

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    Job done by Muir.Any other team would have been given it.The old saying goes "it's not what you know, it's who you know"

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    Refs aren't the reason that we've utterly failed in the league this season.

    Yep. Too many poor results where the ref wasn't to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Refs aren't the reason that we've utterly failed in the league this season.
    They were a massive factor in us not getting through this tie though. Quite simply a corrupt decision.

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    Yep. Too many poor results where the ref wasn't to blame.
    We could have won another 4/5 games and still faced a play off with Falkirk

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    Quote Originally Posted by superhibi1 View Post
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    It was a scandalous call by the ref but refs arent the issue we havent went up, our crap results in the 2nd half of the season are
    It is the issue though. For whenever success or failure comes down to one match. The helping hand comes out to keep us down.

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    You need luck in any sport and Falkirk had it all including the ref blunders

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    If you look at the stats over the 2 legs you'll see that it wasn't Muir's fault we lost. We could easily have missed that pen and it would probably still be the refs fault.

    Chance after chance (story of our last two seasons sadly) missed. We've not utilised our set pieces effectively enough either. Just lump it in the box and watch Rodgers/Cuthbert/Langfield/Brown claim it without fuss or a proper challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxy View Post
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    It is the issue though. For whenever success or failure comes down to one match. The helping hand comes out to keep us down.
    It should never have come to the play offs, we have the squad there to have won this league even with rangers in it, daft tactics and not knowing how to see out games has cost us

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    Chris Sutton said he should never red again

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHanlon View Post
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    If you look at the stats over the 2 legs you'll see that it wasn't Muir's fault we lost. We could easily have missed that pen and it would probably still be the refs fault.

    Chance after chance (story of our last two seasons sadly) missed. We've not utilised our set pieces effectively enough either. Just lump it in the box and watch Rodgers/Cuthbert/Langfield/Brown claim it without fuss or a proper challenge.
    Sorry we go 3 1 up the tie changes massively. Also not as bad a decision IMO but red card last night and we play against 10 men for an hour. No Hibs fan should be excusing particularly Muir's appalling decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoYO! View Post
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    Chris Sutton said he should never ref again
    He is totally spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoYO! View Post
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    Chris Sutton said he should never red again
    He's not a ref he's an imposter.Good luck with his new career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    Refs aren't the reason that we've utterly failed in the league this season.
    They are in this fixture. We were comfortably the better team in both games.
    Yes our defensive frailties remain but we have been shafted in both games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike Mandela View Post
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    ......you're a cheating ****.
    Sorry about the language used in this post I was a wee bit drunk last night, what I actually meant to say was.........****ing **** off Alan Muir you're a ****ing, ****ing, ****ing, ****ing, cheating ****ing **** and the devil spawn of the other ****ing cheating **** Craig ****ing Thomson.

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    There is no doubt the blatant penalty that was not given by him leaves a sour note to the play offs. Assuming we had scored the penalty and being 3-1 up and taken at the very least a one goal advantage into the second game it could have been a wholly different situation. Another SFA Referee who has been shown to be in my opinion- bent. He seen the Falkirk player put his hand on the ball then clear it up the park. Bent is the only word for him

    In addition Craig Thompson elected not even to book the player who fouled James Keatings when being the last man and denying James a clear goal scoring opportunity. It should by the letter of the law a straight red card. When Stokes kicked the ball away Thompson immediately booked Stokes as it was by the letter of the law a straight yellow card for kicking the ball away. How then was a last man defender not sent off for a straight red card for denying James Keatings a clear goal scoring opportunity. James was clearly going to have a good clear sight of goal when he was fouled.

    Do the SFA Referees have an agenda or is it the SFA who appoint these Referees who call the big blatant decisions wrongly and always the other way against the Hi bees.

    If either of these two massive calls by firstly Muir and secondly by Thompson had been given correctly they would have changed the outcome.
    Spot on. Add in Muirheads off the ball kicks at Henderson on Tursday and elbow on Mcginn last night.
    Chris Sutton correct and according to BT sport Howard Webb couldn't believe my its incompetence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicho87 View Post
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    We were asked to win a game of football. We failed. Muir is a tit but so is stubbs
    If we are to play to a set of defined rules so should our oponents. The refs in both ties award the decisions as they should have done given the rules then we are in the play off final and Stubbs is on the brink of promotion and a Scottish cup win. How does that make Stubbs on a par with Muir or Thomson?

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    We should have still gone on to win BUT..

    You can't deny that he changed the course of the tie, we would have been 3-1 up and cruising if converted, with such high stakes how he got that wrong is unforgivable, he is a useless **** that should never referee a game of football again in his life.

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    Other than the red card I actually thought Thomson was faultless last night.
    Regardless of how they performed you have to question the thought process (if 'thought' is the right word) behind appointing those two ahead of all the other referees in Scotland.

    As it is Muir 'bottled' a huge decision and Thomson 'only' failed to send a player off with the bulk of the game to go. The refs aren't wholly to blame for our loss but they did play a significant part.

    In mitigation re Thomson though, wasn't there recently a ruling that preventing a goal scoring opportunity will no longer be an automatic red card - don't know if that's taken effect yet.

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    Completely and utterly shafted in this tie by referees. However, it is naive to say the refs were the only reason we didn't go through, we didn't put away our chances are were once again soft at the back when high balls came in.

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