Let me start off by owning up to being a referee.
I have no problem with people letting the match officials that they have made mistakes. We are all entitled to our opinions and to our interpretation of the laws of the game. Last night wash a shocking performance by all three match officials. The guy on the East side didn't seem to know how to orwhen to signal. He missed so many decisions it was unreal. The mistakes by the referee have been well documented on this site.
My gripe is with people giving abuse at officials when they are clearly in the wrong.
Last night there was a guy sitting a few rows behind me who gave the East side assistand dogs abuse in the first half. Each time Falkirk had a goal kick, Lee Miller would stand beyond the Hibs back four and then make a run in front of the centre backs to attack the ball. Each time this guy shouted that he was offside and told the assistant in no uncertain terms how useless he was for not being able to see this. This was followed by the guy in fron tof him who was shouting that if the assistant got it wrong again he would 'cave his f'ing head in'.
I then let them know that they were making fools of themselves by shouting this as you cannot be offside from a goal kick. Needless to say that went down like a lead balloon (as did my comment that Grey had played them onside for the first goal). Cue the question 'How the F can you see from here?'...the same way as you think you can see from here that he was offside.
If you are going to give officials abuse then at least brush up on the laws of the game.
Oh, and yes, the match officials were rank rotten last night.
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Thread: Giving the match officials abuse
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11-05-2016 11:53 AM #1
Giving the match officials abuse
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11-05-2016 11:55 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-05-2016 11:57 AM #3
I played the game till early 80s to Junior level for a bit. I've watched it since. Last night was genuinely the first time I had known you couldn't be offside for a goal kick. I am sure in fact I know that there is is a huge chunk of fans in the same boat if they would admit it. Fans givingofficials abuse is part of the game mate.
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11-05-2016 12:07 PM #5
There would maybe be a better relationship between fans and officials if they explained their decisions sometimes instead of hiding in silence which makes them appear arrogant and aloof to supporters. Someone mentioned the whistle blower website which gave them a chance to do so which lasted a few weeks before being totally abandoned. They don't do much to help themselves.
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11-05-2016 12:08 PM #6
It's an interesting point. I played amateur for 15 years and have watched hundreds of matches and there are still rules that catch me by surprise.
The throw in one was a good one last night. Logan will have been a bit rattled after his mistake and I think he might have been caught on the hop a bit with their long throw. Counter-intuitive as it is, Logan would be best to let the ball go in if nobody's touched it and he could get himself into a world of trouble by touching it on the way, fumbling it or letting it bounce off the frame of the goal to another player. Easy to criticise the keeper but it was a fairly unique situation regarding the rules and I think Logan will have been caught out a bit where instinct tells you to do one thing but you kind of know to do something else?
There are obvious and fundamental ones that managers and pundits manage to get wrong regularly though so what chance do most punters have?
How often have we had a debate re whether or not a player was the "last man"? Doesn't matter, was it a clear goalscoring opportunity?
Did he get the ball? Doesn't bloody matter, was there excessive force or recklessness involved?
Was it ball to hand or hand to ball? Doesn't bloody matter, if his hand is in that position then……
etc etc
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11-05-2016 12:21 PM #11
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Fella behind me taking about offside. I mentioned that you can't be offside from a goal kick.
He's a nice bloke though and wasn't shouting at the ref or anything but just thought I should mention it.
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11-05-2016 12:21 PM #12
Refs are only human.
We all know humans who are bigots.
We all know humans who think they are never wrong.
We all know humans who are incompetent at their job.
We all know humans who lie.
We all know humans who cheat.
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Last night was so bad it could result in Hibs spending a third season in the Championship. No wonder fans have a go at them, even when they are in the wrong sometimes.
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11-05-2016 01:01 PM #15
Can any of the referees tell me if it's now a rule that players receive treatment on the field without any time added on for stoppages? Recently noticed that refs regularly add 3 or 4 minutes when there has been 6 subs and a few goals while often 5 or 6 minutes have been "wasted" with on-field treatment.
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11-05-2016 01:15 PM #17
I also thought that during televised games they had to have signal injury time with the board?
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11-05-2016 01:18 PM #18
Don't care, get on their back over decisions at home and they'll give us borderline calls. It's human nature.
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11-05-2016 02:19 PM #19
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Why do linesmen always look at the referee to see which way they should give a throw in?
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Out of interest, I have a question for those members of this forum who are refs, if a ball ends up in the net direct from a throw with no other player touching it, what happens?
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One for the refs. Can't be offside from a bye kick so he's still beyond last defender from phase one and gets played through by an attacking header. Presumably offside then because of the second touch from a team mate but would be deemed onside if a defender heads it badly backwards?
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Having said all that my Dad goes to the football for two reasons. One to hopefully see Hibs win, and two to have a good shout at the ref. Ive had many an argument with him about his green tinted spectacles clouding his judgement on refereeing decisions.
Last night its safe to say I was joining in with him though.
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11-05-2016 03:18 PM #29
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Could've sworn Leigh was offside at every opposition goal kick......, and waved offside for it!
I didn't know the rule and it explains a lot. Many players are definitely straying offside when they're taken.
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