Hearts and sectarianism

**~~Malongoals~~** · 20-02-2016 11:44 PM

Not using this as point scoring in any shape or form, merely interested for your opinions on the matter.

Below is a photo from yesterday of a couple of Hearts fans up at Dundee. Celebrating Britishness next to a Nazi salute has always baffled me...

Anyway the reason I was posting was as a slightly younger fan, I was interested to see if people feel their relation to sectarian behaviour has increased or decreased over the last few decades? Interested for your thoughts

**~~Malongoals~~** · 20-02-2016 11:46 PM

https://www.facebook.com/30243937663...type=3&theater

(Can't work out how to post a photo, apologies for the link)

**FromTheCapital** · 20-02-2016 11:48 PM

3 little tramps. That is all.
Combined age of about 28.

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***Hibby70*** · 20-02-2016 11:56 PM

That boy in the middle has lost all of his dignity as well as his teeth.

***superfurryhibby*** · 20-02-2016 11:58 PM

We have our own Union Flag, extended arm saluting weirdos. Funny, I questioned it on social media, was challenged and looked at the boys posts. Funnily enough he was a fan of EDL and was asking me if the could'nt be Scottish and British. Eh, aye whatever.

***wookie70*** · 21-02-2016 12:01 AM

I started watching Hibs 40 years ago and there is no doubt the level of sectarianism has fallen dramatically over the years as has racism and homophobia. Hibs fans have done better than most. Unfortunately, most clubs have there ********s and the ugly sisters have stand fulls of them. Even Hearts didnt belt out Billy boys on Tuesday for the first time in a long time.

**~~Malongoals~~** · 21-02-2016 12:05 AM

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I started watching Hibs 40 years ago and there is no doubt the level of sectarianism has fallen dramatically over the years as has racism and homophobia. Hibs fans have done better than most. Unfortunately, most clubs have there ********s and the ugly sisters have stand fulls of them. Even Hearts didnt belt out Billy boys on Tuesday for the first time in a long time.

That's what made me think to bring it up, it was the first derby I could remember in years where that wasn't sung, even by a minority

**iwasthere1972** · 21-02-2016 12:06 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/30243937663...type=3&theater

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I'd be more concerned if I was a wee Jambo laddie on the left as it looks like his Jambo sister has also travelled up to Dundee with their bairn looking to get the child maintenance that he owes.

I would arrest them all anyway just for being Jambos.

***Hibernia&Alba*** · 21-02-2016 12:23 AM

The vast majority of the Hearts fans I know are good folk who support their team. They've always had minority of bigoted clowns who mimic The Rangers, but they seem to be on the decline, in line with prejudice in most areas of society. Obviously, it isn't something that can be eradicated overnight, but Scotland (The Rangers excepted) is a more tolerant place than it was even a generation ago. We're a multicultural society, and the vast majority recognise this; indeed, most welcome it. I wouldn't take the daftie kids in that picture to be a fair representation of the wider Hearts support. More than ever, the rivalry between the Edinburgh teams is purely football based, largely free from the religious and political intolerance of Glasgow.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 21-02-2016 12:56 AM

that oddball yin in the middle looks like he's straight out of the set of the film Deliverance, what an odd looking creature

***Greencore*** · 21-02-2016 12:59 AM

They will argue it's the red hand of Ulster.

Glad our club remember our roots but don't celebrate stupid politics.

**LithgaeHibby** · 21-02-2016 06:42 AM

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That's what made me think to bring it up, it was the first derby I could remember in years where that wasn't sung, even by a minority

The only reason they didn't sing that was because they were singing hee haw for 90 mins due to getting humped by the Cabbage.

***Carheenlea*** · 21-02-2016 07:13 AM

Whilst they are just three kids who will hopefully grow out of that kind of posturing, the facts are that they will probably grow up to be the obnoxious total pain in ***** like the vast majority of Hearts fans are. With some mild sectarianism thrown in for good measure.

**mjhibby** · 21-02-2016 07:21 AM

I'd love to think that they will refrain from singing their bile but as has been said thatsbeen more to do with them realising they ain't very good and we are a damn tough team right now. Most hertz fans I just find annoying and find it futile to have a conversation about football. The sad thing was only 2 years ago that there was 2 thousand of them singing the Billy boys. I'm sure Queen budge would like to get rid of the hardcore bigots but will happily take their money. I'm immensely proud to support a club where any ism is unacceptable and it's up to other clubs to follow suit. Unfortunately as Scottish football is driven by the bigot Bros and their charming rivalry it's unlikely that we will be rid of it in many a generation.

***Simkin911*** · 21-02-2016 07:36 AM

I could use a few words but pathetic is probably sufficient.

**Thecat23** · 21-02-2016 07:39 AM

Tramps who are still living in the past while watching Football Factory on a sat morning to get them going.

**Pretty Boy** · 21-02-2016 07:42 AM

Where did they get the flag? Poundland? It's not even close to the correct colour.

***lucky*** · 21-02-2016 07:47 AM

I drink in a pub that's full of them and I reckon only one is sectarian. The rest would be offend as we are with Nazi salutes, I think if their parents saw this photo they'd slap the little ****s senseless. Surely you can support your club without that crap. 30 years ago republican songs were sung by Hibs fans but they were stamped out by the fans. I have never heard Hibs fans sing racist or homophobic songs but there is no doubt we have some supporters who are right wing

***malcolm*** · 21-02-2016 08:05 AM

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I'd love to think that they will refrain from singing their bile but as has been said thatsbeen more to do with them realising they ain't very good and we are a damn tough team right now. Most hertz fans I just find annoying and find it futile to have a conversation about football. The sad thing was only 2 years ago that there was 2 thousand of them singing the Billy boys. I'm sure Queen budge would like to get rid of the hardcore bigots but will happily take their money. I'm immensely proud to support a club where any ism is unacceptable and it's up to other clubs to follow suit. Unfortunately as Scottish football is driven by the bigot Bros and their charming rivalry it's unlikely that we will be rid of it in many a generation.

I'd be devastated if we did not support our forwards' opportunism in and around the box

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 21-02-2016 08:13 AM

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The only reason they didn't sing that was because they were singing hee haw for 90 mins due to getting humped by the Cabbage.

Exactly what I was going to say. They lost Tuesday's game in the last 10 mins at Tiny so were on a downer.

**Holmesdale Hibs** · 21-02-2016 08:13 AM

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I started watching Hibs 40 years ago and there is no doubt the level of sectarianism has fallen dramatically over the years as has racism and homophobia. Hibs fans have done better than most. Unfortunately, most clubs have there ********s and the ugly sisters have stand fulls of them. Even Hearts didnt belt out Billy boys on Tuesday for the first time in a long time.

Agree with this. Hearts fans are as against sectarianism as we are.

Whether it's falling amongst old firm supports is another question.

***Hibrandenburg*** · 21-02-2016 08:51 AM

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Where did they get the flag? Poundland? It's not even close to the correct colour.

Everything they touch turns to pink like some sissy version of King Midas.

**Ozyhibby** · 21-02-2016 09:06 AM

Hearts can at least say it's a genuine small minority among their support.
I'm pleased to say it's almost non existent at Hibs now.
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**Ozyhibby** · 21-02-2016 09:12 AM

Found it.

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***erin go bragh*** · 21-02-2016 09:33 AM

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Hearts can at least say it's a genuine small minority among their support.
I'm pleased to say it's almost non existent at Hibs now.
The page appears to be taken down so can't see the photo.

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It wasn't a small minority singing about Tony Mowbrays dead wife or Dean Sheils one eye . Huns without the bus fares when dead Rangers were winning everything . Now there just diet Huns .

GGTTH