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    John Beaton and suspensions

    Thought the referee was woeful tonight.

    Pallardo should have definitely been off and both the yellows for Augustyn and Cummings were very soft.

    Cummings second yellow particularly annoyed me as he booked Juanma for complaining about not booking Cummings and then he changed his mind. One of the worst, most soft pieces of refereeing I've ever seen, and that's saying something in Scotland.

    Who's all suspended for the Inverness game then? Someone said on the match thread that stokes was. Is Bartley as well? As he picked up a yellow today and at tynecastle. Would be a hard game to win without those three and Fyvie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus52 View Post
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    Thought the referee was woeful tonight.

    Pallardo should have definitely been off and both the yellows for Augustyn and Cummings were very soft.

    Cummings second yellow particularly annoyed me as he booked Juanma for complaining about not booking Cummings and then he changed his mind. One of the worst, most soft pieces of refereeing I've ever seen, and that's saying something in Scotland.

    Who's all suspended for the Inverness game then? Someone said on the match thread that stokes was. Is Bartley as well? As he picked up a yellow today and at tynecastle. Would be a hard game to win without those three and Fyvie
    According to SFA website Hanlon, Bartley, McGregor and stokes were all on a caution going into the game tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LustForLeith View Post
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    According to SFA website Hanlon, Bartley, McGregor and stokes were all on a caution going into the game tonight.
    Hanlon got booked so that could be him suspended as well :(

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    So Hanlon, Bartley and Cummings out for ICT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWJ View Post
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    So Hanlon, Bartley and Cummings out for ICT.

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    Fyvie is likely to still be injured

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    that win tonight could cost us, hopefully at least have Dylan back, caley will be a very hard game, even harder now, well done the referee in sending off cummings after consulting the hertz players

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    Stokes wasn't booked tonight was he??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus52 View Post
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    Thought the referee was woeful tonight.

    Pallardo should have definitely been off and both the yellows for Augustyn and Cummings were very soft.

    Cummings second yellow particularly annoyed me as he booked Juanma for complaining about not booking Cummings and then he changed his mind. One of the worst, most soft pieces of refereeing I've ever seen, and that's saying something in Scotland.

    Who's all suspended for the Inverness game then? Someone said on the match thread that stokes was. Is Bartley as well? As he picked up a yellow today and at tynecastle. Would be a hard game to win without those three and Fyvie
    The ref lost the plot in the last 30 mins. Neither of the sendings off were 2nd yellows, but the one he missed was a shocker. Terrible referee.

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    We will still have a midfield of McGinn, Henderson, McGeoch to pick from and the likes of Thomson to fall back on if Fyvie not recovered.

    Stokes will be fitter and we have options up front. Fonts to come in for Hanlon.

    Would still back us given the spirit and character we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76 View Post
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    Stokes wasn't booked tonight was he??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWJ View Post
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    So Hanlon, Bartley and Cummings out for ICT.

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    On the plus side, they will all be available for the final.

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    He was absolutely dreadful. How he didn't send off the hearts player is beyond me and neither of the players he did send off should've been sent off. I also thought Bartley and Thomson didn't deserve to be booked, I thought Bartley had been fouled.

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    I thought the ref was ok bar not sending off their No.14. The sending offs were soft but correct. JC was stupid kicking the ball when it was clearly out of play and he was nearly in amongst the puddle drinkers when scored.
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    He was absolutely dreadful. How he didn't send off the hearts player is beyond me and neither of the players he did send off should've been sent off. I also thought Bartley and Thomson didn't deserve to be booked, I thought Bartley had been fouled.
    The standard of Scottish referees is absolutely honking..

    Take your pick

    1 Wullie Collum
    2 Craig Thomson
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    And they are meant to be our top three officials.

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    The worst part of the night for me (ref wise) was when he gave hearts a free kick and booked Bartley for Bartley skinning the hearts boy (who I believe was already on a yellow but could have been given a straight red for completely taking Marv out). Was absolutely mental that the linesman and ref seen it go hearts way!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Pint View Post
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    The standard of Scottish referees is absolutely honking..

    Take your pick

    1 Wullie Collum
    2 Craig Thomson
    3 John Beaton

    And they are meant to be our top three officials.
    All 3 of them are brutal, do we have any decent refs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    He was absolutely dreadful. How he didn't send off the hearts player is beyond me and neither of the players he did send off should've been sent off. I also thought Bartley and Thomson didn't deserve to be booked, I thought Bartley had been fouled.
    Bartley incident happened right below our seats. He was very lucky not to be sent off IMHO. He jumped to avoid a tackle but I am convinced he could have avoided landing on the hearts player in what amounted to a stamp. Hearts number 14 was a stick on second yellow for me but JC and the hearts player sent off was very soft. But, my god, does Ox sail close to the wind with his time on the ball? Both sides could have finished this one with 8 or 9 men

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    He was absolutely dreadful. How he didn't send off the hearts player is beyond me and neither of the players he did send off should've been sent off. I also thought Bartley and Thomson didn't deserve to be booked, I thought Bartley had been fouled.
    I thought Bartley unlucky as he jumped over the guy.Thomson looked like a yellow to me though.I thought for a minute he was getting a red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammond Hibee View Post
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    I thought Bartley unlucky as he jumped over the guy.Thomson looked like a yellow to me though.I thought for a minute he was getting a red.
    The Thomson tackle looked like a strong fair tackle to me, but I may be a bit biased

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    The Thomson tackle looked like a strong fair tackle to me, but I may be a bit biased
    Looked like he got all of the ball. Should never have been booked IMO but the hearts player rolled about so much the referee was conned. Then couldn't get to his feet quick enough. I don't think their physio was on the park once. Which is incredible given the number of times theor players went down

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWJ View Post
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    So Hanlon, Bartley and Cummings out for ICT.

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    They will be missed, especially Cummings of course. It's going to be a hard match against Inverness: one in which home advantage must be made to count.
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    My observations (admittedly from the ff upper)...

    Bartley - should've been a throw in, did think at the time he must've gone in with an elbow or something that I didn't see (sounds like a stamp from previous post)
    Thomson - got the ball, shirley either a good tackle or a red?
    Augustyn - never a booking
    Cummings - not a booking either but should know better

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    John Cheaton...


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    Mental how little you get booked for in football these days. Cummings never made a tackle and got sent off. Although he was bloody stupid for the second yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB Crunch View Post
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    My observations (admittedly from the ff upper)...

    Bartley - should've been a throw in, did think at the time he must've gone in with an elbow or something that I didn't see (sounds like a stamp from previous post)
    Thomson - got the ball, shirley either a good tackle or a red?
    Augustyn - never a booking
    Cummings - not a booking either but should know better
    Agree with that but I thought that Bartley jumped to avoid a shocking challenge that would have been a sending off for their man. No way was his a booking. My view from West upper directly above the incident. Really shocking decision. How their 14 stayed on the other two were reds I will never know.

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    I thought the ref was woeful! Just as bad as the one on Saturday against Livi.

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    A better ref doesn't send either player off, they were both very poor decisions. Yes the hearts player's bounced the ball in frustration, but a quiet word/final warning would have sufficed. And for JC, he's kicked the ball, but it's not like he's booted it miles from anywhere. And considering the similarly soft nature of his first card, a wee word to calm was all that was needed. Instead he lets the decision be made for him by a **** of hearts players trying to get someone sent off. Overall, poor game management, but it's what you expect from Scottish refs.

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    Awful ref, totally lost control of the game for a spell in the second half. Absurd decision not to book the boy for the foul on the touchline, then to get bullied into sending Cummings off was unforgivable.
    Ironically, Cummings deserved a second booking - even though it was harsh (and he let Hearts away with kicking the ball away earlier in the game), but the ref wasn't interested in booking him again until those whining *******s piped up.
    A stronger ref tells them to bolt.
    Also thought Oxley's booking was pish - ref was swayed, imho, by the yam support and Oxley's previous.
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    Was watching the Bartley incident from the yams periscope right in front of it. Don't think Bartley meant to hurt the boy but he absolutely steamrollered him and went high, not nasty but definitely ugly.

    ****** love the Marv.

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    Surely if Marv stamped on the hertz player he should have been sent off....?

    Therefore, as it was a yellow it was for a tackle not a stamp, in which case, granted from my East Stand POV, not a yellow as he jumped to avoid the tackle coming in.

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