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    Why get points for giving other clubs money?

    Point system is a joke. Give your money to others. What' s that got to do with loyalty?


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    Its aboutsupporting the team

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    Point system is a joke. Give your money to others. What' s that got to do with loyalty?
    Maybe because 'loyalty' isn't, and has never been about money, it is about supporting the club, however the club do give more points to those coming to Easter Road due to spending money on the club! It's easy to turn up to Easter road every Saturday, it's loyal to trek to Inverness, Dingwall, queen of the south, Dumbarton on a Tuesday night and to ignore these punters would be downright daft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    Point system is a joke. Give your money to others. What' s that got to do with loyalty?
    Have you missed out the smiley from your OP?

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    Might be. But how do hibs benefit financially? Loyalty points should be awarded on things that befit hibs. Not taking anything away from away support of which I'm one.

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    Why get points for giving other clubs money?

    A loyal fan travels all over the country to watch the team, the highlands on a school night, Cowdenbeath in the pissing rain last season-of course that should be acknowledged! Shouldn't all be about money.

    A big noisy, encouraging travelling support benefits the team. Not financially but vocally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NadeAteMyLunch! View Post
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    A loyal fan travels all over the country to watch the team, the highlands on a school night, Cowdenbeath in the pissing rain last season-of course that should be acknowledged! Shouldn't all be about money.

    A big noisy, encouraging travelling support benefits the team. Not financially but vocally.
    The folk that went to cowden last season should be given free season tickets. That was the most horrendous game I've ever been to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    Might be. But how do hibs benefit financially? Loyalty points should be awarded on things that befit hibs. Not taking anything away from away support of which I'm one.
    Away fans who put money into other clubs should maybe get loyalty points for each club they visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    The folk that went to cowden last season should be given free season tickets. That was the most horrendous game I've ever been to.
    Haha it was a shocker eh?! Took me about a week to dry oot

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Away fans who put money into other clubs should maybe get loyalty points for each club they visit.
    Good shout BH. First dibs on any cup finals and that they get to.

    Do you think it'd be worthwhile buying shares in other clubs as well?

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    Been away. Been soaked. Got back from Dingwall at 2 in the morning midweek. But how is someone who puts their hard earned cash in to hibs at every home game now a lesser supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    Been away. Been soaked. Got back from Dingwall at 2 in the morning midweek. But how is someone who puts their hard earned cash in to hibs at every home game now a lesser supporter?
    The answer is.......nobody knows.

    I dreamed upon a seashore, sun rapping shell eared sleep. Does that count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Good shout BH. First dibs on any cup finals and that they get to.

    Do you think it'd be worthwhile buying shares in other clubs as well?
    If you had enough points, then why not?

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    If you only give loyalty points for home games then you would have 8000 people on the same points total,loyalty points only become an issue for away games. Going by the OP's question I could get tickets to most away games no problem, it then comes to a game where demand exceeds supply and I miss out, is that fair ? The system in place is by no means perfect but currently rewards fans who follow Hibernian home and away.
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    I'l say it again. The system is a joke. Supporters with current top points will always be in that group. . The rest have no chance of catching, no matter what they buy or purchase .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    I'l say it again. The system is a joke. Supporters with current top points will always be in that group. . The rest have no chance of catching, no matter what they buy or purchase .
    Unless they stop going to away games?

    Only way they'd stay in the top group is if they buy the tickets and sell them on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    I'l say it again. The system is a joke. Supporters with current top points will always be in that group. . The rest have no chance of catching, no matter what they buy or purchase .
    Most of the bigger clubs have something similar in place. Celtic have an away ticket system that is only open to season ticket holders, priority is then given to those fans that have been to the most away games, is that fair ? Probably not. Hearts have a loyalty points system similar to ours. What do you suggest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringothedog View Post
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    Most of the bigger clubs have something similar in place. Celtic have an away ticket system that is only open to season ticket holders, priority is then given to those fans that have been to the most away games, is that fair ? Probably not. Hearts have a loyalty points system similar to ours. What do you suggest ?
    Not their system. We are Hibernian FC.. We are leaders in many ways. If you know your history .
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    I do find it amusing / annoying that I could be off to all the cup games home / away and miss out when it gets to the games that matter. 5 points for being at the quarters / semi if they are "away" is just daft for example.

    Hibs are usually lucky to get somewhere between 12k to 17k for a semi if its the right ground / opposition / weekend. There are those that wont go to the semi to cheer on the team but jump out when the glory train arrives come March / May, albeit the clock continues to tick on one of these cups.

    I would propose at least 15 points valid for attending away games in the cup. We can't win it if we're not ies the competition and the fans support does count BIG time at away games.

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    I really don't know if the OP is at the wind up or not but I will bite.

    I am a Hibs fan who is in the fortunate position that I can currently afford to support Hibs both at Easter Road and at most away games. (I also contribute to HSL).

    By following Hibs at away matches I am able to provide vocal support and encourage Hibs onto away victories. I am sure the players are encouraged when they see a large number of supporters behind the goals at away grounds. The team and all supporters benefit from a strong away record.

    There are many Hibs supporters who can't afford to do both following Hibs away and contribute to HSL. Some choose to support the team in person at away games. Are they lesser supporters than people who contribute to HSL? The allocation of 100 points to HSL members would appear to say yes.

    These fans who follow the club all over the place in all types of weather should be encouraged as well.

    Support for the team comes in many ways, not just financially. By all means back Hibs to the best of your ability but acknowledge the effort all fans go to when supporting the team.

    I believe fans who give their time and effort following the team at Easter Road and all over the country deserve the first opportunity for tickets where numbers are limited.
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    Easter Road has sold out once since the rebuild. If the fans that only go to home games want a ticket for home games they will get one. To me the loyalty points are to make sure the guys and girls who follow Hibs all over the country are given first dibs on Tickets for away and neutral games. I go to about half the away games and have no issue with anyone who goes to them all being in front of me in the virtual ticket queue. I think the loyalty points are a great idea and the only fly in the ointment is the 100 points awarded to HSL members. Get rid of that and the scheme will reward loyalty properly and the points will make some sense to what their benefits bring. Potentially spending 15 quid on HSL being worth more than attending every away league game seems ridiculous to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    Point system is a joke. Give your money to others. What' s that got to do with loyalty?
    What a load of rubbish. It's about the loyalty to the team as well as the club and givIng them your backing at matches whatever the day and wherever the location.

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    I'l say it again. The system is a joke. Supporters with current top points will always be in that group. . The rest have no chance of catching, no matter what they buy or purchase .
    Sincere apologies for trying to follow my team home and away, midweek, weekends, early and late kick offs and being rewarded for it.

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    I've found that those unhappy with the scheme have been bitter about not having enough points to get tickets for the big games (rangers/hearts/semi first dibs). The system first and foremost benefits those who support the club week in, week out. I'm delighted that it has been implemented as IS working.

    PS: Obviously I would welcome any tweaks so that people with the points can only buy for themselves rather than lend their references to others, but that must be extremely difficult.
    Last edited by HibsNutter; 21-01-2016 at 06:18 AM. Reason: PS

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    Yawn yawn yawn. Some folk need to get over themselves. Especially folk who are humpty about missing out.

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    I think supporters who criticise the team on the pitch, home or away, should have points deducted.





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    I think we've all been taken in by an elaborate hoax. The OP is clearly at it, as it is entitled a "Loyalty Scheme" not a "financial contribution" scheme.

    How many - honestly - people will have accrued points through going to plenty of away games who do not also have a home ST/attend regularly at ER as well?? A handful at most.

    As for the comment of how do Hibs benefit from having a decent away support, that just shows a profound lack of understanding about how football and footballers work/what motivates them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwicke View Post
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    Been away. Been soaked. Got back from Dingwall at 2 in the morning midweek. But how is someone who puts their hard earned cash in to hibs at every home game now a lesser supporter?
    There not, I don't know if you have noticed but home fans receive 10 points where away fans receive 5, meaning if I attend 10 home games, someone who only travels away will have to go to 20 games to be on the same points! Its genuinely not that hard to understand!

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